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Nothing new here,,,,Churchill said nearly the exact same thing, when looking for investments in a war torn and heavily destroyed England.

Last time I checked, the "Marshal Plan" rebuilt all of Europe after WWII, which in turn fueled the economic engine of the USA for nearly 40 years.

When your country, or countries have little manufacturing capability remaining standing after a major war, outside investments, banks, and everyone else looking to make money floods into these areas with capital.

Of course, ya can leave the war torn areas destroyed, not invest in them at all, but if money is not moving, exchanging hands, stuff ain't being built, then not much of anything happens here at home, no new jobs, factories, people are out of work, crime goes up, etc.

Don't ever allow yourself to confuse politics, with business!

Hate the war, hate everything and everyone, but when it comes to business, then conduct business!

Anyone here ever get a decent paycheck from a poor motherfucker or not drawn on an evil "banker" "banking institution"?????:)LOL
 

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Plato said it best......"only the dead have seen the end of war."

They may have lived almost 2,500 years ago, but Aristotle, Plato, Archimedes and Socrates are still the most important founding figures in Western philosophy..............KILL KILL KILL.

Zelensky is a tool of destiny..................Archimedes today, might have invented the AK, if not John Browning.

Humans............are always at war. Like the one you got.
 

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Nothing new here,,,,Churchill said nearly the exact same thing, when looking for investments in a war torn and heavily destroyed England.

Last time I checked, the "Marshal Plan" rebuilt all of Europe after WWII, which in turn fueled the economic engine of the USA for nearly 40 years.

When your country, or countries have little manufacturing capability remaining standing after a major war, outside investments, banks, and everyone else looking to make money floods into these areas with capital.

Of course, ya can leave the war torn areas destroyed, not invest in them at all, but if money is not moving, exchanging hands, stuff ain't being built, then not much of anything happens here at home, no new jobs, factories, people are out of work, crime goes up, etc.

Don't ever allow yourself to confuse politics, with business!

Hate the war, hate everything and everyone, but when it comes to business, then conduct business!

Anyone here ever get a decent paycheck from a poor motherfucker or not drawn on an evil "banker" "banking institution"?????:)LOL
Fuck Zelensky. Go play globalist with your own blood and treasure.
 

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Some folks deny reality, and some try, and "always" fail, to deny history, both doomed to failure from the start.

Whats funny, members of the ultimate predator class known through out the whole history of the world, who also claim to own firearms, also claim not to be predisposed to being apex predators and run around demanding peace, within a species thats never known peace, except for brief periods of time while they fornicate like rabbits to produce the next group of war age males.

Like it or not, the world has produced a surplus crop of war aged males over the past 75 years or so, and global war there will be, regardless if anyone likes it or not.

Going through life fearful, anxious, and scared shitless, always striking out at others, for a future you have zero real control of, is not a very productive use of the short time one has upon this earth.
 

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We've all heard your end of times fantasy. And your Putin is Hitler fantasy. And your excuse that everything is beyond our control. And your claim that anyone who opposes funding this conflict is just scared.

Go play globalist with your own blood and treasure.

But you might consider addressing our own southern border first, since you are only a few miles from it and have reported invaders in your yard and running battles in your local town.

It is hard for me to understand a man who wants so badly to meddle in the affairs of others but whose own affairs are so poorly attended.
 

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F*CK the Z-man!- I feel for the Ukrainian people as I would feel for the citizens of Vicksburg or those Georgians in the path of Sherman... That doesnt mean I support them or their government, a secessionist regime which has grabbed off a section of Russia that has been an important part of the HEART of Russia in many ways- Kievan Rus, from which Russia derives it's name. An integral part of RUSSIA since it's founding circa 900AD, and certainly since the time of Bogdan Khemelnitski @ 1650, when Ukraine asked Tsar Michael Romanov to include Ukraine into the growing Russian empire. Ukraine seceded from Russia after the collapse of the USSR, when Russia was on it's back with an alcoholic Boris Yeltsin allowing it to happen- basically unable to do anything about it anyway. Ukraine has been part of Russia economically, militarily, socially, politically, and spiritually for longer than our beloved country has been a country.
People can say what they want about Putin- "Putler" has been a common slur, but he is no Hitler. Putin is a Russian patriot, acting as many of us might if say Texas or California decided to split and go their own way. War is ugly, and the Western propaganda media in Britain and USA has been pumping it out about the eeeevil Putin and Russia. The US is being beggared by the incessant demands by the corrupt Zelenski regime for more money, guns, foodstuffs and technology, which Biden stumbles over himself to provide from OUR vital stockpiles of military supplies, things it will take YEARS and BILLION$ to replace- if ever. As a "born here" American of "born here" parents, I think that we should NOT be involved, WE SHOULD BE WATCHING RED CHINA!
just sayin...
 

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Some folks deny reality, and some try, and "always" fail, to deny history, both doomed to failure from the start.

Whats funny, members of the ultimate predator class known through out the whole history of the world, who also claim to own firearms, also claim not to be predisposed to being apex predators and run around demanding peace, within a species thats never known peace, except for brief periods of time while they fornicate like rabbits to produce the next group of war age males.

Like it or not, the world has produced a surplus crop of war aged males over the past 75 years or so, and global war there will be, regardless if anyone likes it or not.

Going through life fearful, anxious, and scared shitless, always striking out at others, for a future you have zero real control of, is not a very productive use of the short time one has upon this earth.
^^^^This^^^^

Amazing how many people will be pissed at you for stating the obvious when it's not even you doing it or having any control over it.

They want to continue to keep their head in the sand.
 

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^^^^This^^^^

Amazing how many people will be pissed at you for stating the obvious when it's not even you doing it or having any control over it.

They want to continue to keep their head in the sand.
I'm pissed when people spew cartoonish propaganda that could foolishly lead to a nuclear exchange and then when confronted with their bullshit respond "oh well" like it doesn't matter. You're one of them. Please explain to me again how Russia, who can barely take the eastern edge of Ukraine with conventional forces in a year, must be stopped before they conquer Eastern Europe. It takes a special kind of gullible to not see the problem with that narrative.
 

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I'm pissed when people spew cartoonish propaganda that could foolishly lead to a nuclear exchange and then when confronted with their bullshit respond "oh well" like it doesn't matter. You're one of them. Please explain to me again how Russia, who can barely take the eastern edge of Ukraine with conventional forces in a year, must be stopped before they conquer Eastern Europe. It takes a special kind of gullible to not see the problem with that narrative.
Along with a country that got kicked out of an area by goat herders with AKs leaving 80 billion in munitions and hardware. Fentanyl replaced poppies hence no more demand for them and money for the see eye aye dried up. You knew that they then had to go find another place to keep the MIC grift going
 

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^^^^This^^^^

Amazing how many people will be pissed at you for stating the obvious when it's not even you doing it or having any control over it.

They want to continue to keep their head in the sand.

They are pissed off and upset at "things" they got no control or sway over, and anyone that does not fit their narrow little narrative, then becomes the target of this insane hatred in all matters and circumstances since they can't do shit about whats got them riled up in the first place.

About like a drunk wild eyed lynch mob,,,,dead set to kill someone, anyone, to ease their suffering, does not matter guilt, or responsibility for the wrong, just "get a rope" lets go hang the bastard and any bastard will do!

What gets me laughing, all the people around here screaming, demanding, actually bailing at the moon, "Lets do something, anything, here at home, about our numerous problems", but can't even handle a simple conversation, discussion, in the safety of their homes, without loosing their minds!
With just the smallest amount of pressure from a simple conversation, discussion, they fall apart.

And, this insane fear of a nuclear exchange, :)LOL,,,,,everyone on this planet has been living under this threat since the early 60's, those born before and all born after, its nothing new, could happen at anytime and under a thousand different circumstances, with a simple accident most likely at the top of the list.

And, no one here, can do a damn thing about it, maybe thats whats got these people so fired up, facing for the first time in their lives, somethings in life, no matter how loud they scream, stomp their feet, its simply beyond their control and influence.

Maybe we need an AA style discussion around here, fix what you can in your life, and just accept the things outside your control.

This past year, has destroyed the discussions around here, now its all, you're with me 100% or you're the enemy!
 

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Absolutely true...

Unfortunately, it's never left in the dark to ferment but constantly spewed out...

Forrest
Insane personal attacks on anyone even "slightly" outside the agreed "group think" on any subject, is rather different, in a discussion forum.:)LOL
 

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I am all for your war. But please leave me and mine out of it. If ukraine is so important strap on your war goods and have at it. We (as in The Untied States) are under no threat to any of the happenings in ukraine, except maybe our pols who have been scrubbing our money there before they steal it. One can only warn you of the consequences of your actions before they deliver as promised in their warning. I am glad you stand with ukraine, now pony up!
 

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I'm pissed when people spew cartoonish propaganda that could foolishly lead to a nuclear exchange and then when confronted with their bullshit respond "oh well" like it doesn't matter. You're one of them. Please explain to me again how Russia, who can barely take the eastern edge of Ukraine with conventional forces in a year, must be stopped before they conquer Eastern Europe. It takes a special kind of gullible to not see the problem with that narrative.
Nobody in control of nukes gives a shit what we say and do.
 
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