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Odd that we can do all that dirty work but we can't work up the gumption to fortify the southern border and kick all the immigrant invaders out, wipe out the criminals and give any minority that doesn't want to be here a one way ticket to wherever. 🤔
When I started construction it was a time when the laws were changing that required minorities on the job to even get a government contract. That opened the flood gates and they haven't been closed since. Like the dumb southern cotton farmers that brought in legal slaves, it's a law full of regrets.
 

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:ROFLMAO: :D it's kinda funny but not really. We talk here about the stupidity and brutality of the black culture and remark how uncivilized they are.

Yet good civilized white folks did gain of function research and murdered 38 million and counting.

Good old white boys lusting over the war in Ukraine with whites murdering whites by the hundreds of thousands.

We talk about what liars and thieves the black folks are for stealing from store while the white folks steal billions from the banks and don't go to jail.

Civilized?:unsure:
Umm...well...yeah...about that....

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I've had 61 years on this planet. By now I have learned a couple of absolute, incontrovertible truths, and that even speaking these truths makes deniers uncomfortable, but that does not make it not so.
Blacks and whites? We're simply NOT the same. Blacks are totally different from whites. I will stop short of saying they are inferior. One might imagine that had we simply left them in Africa, their intellect might have been perfectly suited to those pursuits in that environment.
In short, as others have said, "we should have picked our own cotton"...
Yeah, I'm wary of what I see with my own eyes in this regard. The media tends to paint with such an ugly biased brush. What you never see are strong black families with good kids and honest jobs just chasing the American dream and you know those people are out there. Men and woman who make good neighbors and good friends. We are rarely shown those folks on the news.

Urban black culture is terribly broken. Poor, Ignorant blacks are being preyed upon by race hustlers and socialists the same as pharma have victimized rural whites with narcotics and the disability treadmill.

It sure seems like urban blacks are trying with all their might to make everyone on the planet despise them. And predominantly black nations seem backwards and prone to failure. But most of the communist democides have been arranged by whites and Asians. They are all failures.

Ask yourself this - if the black community adopted mainstream white American culture, would the level of criminality drop sharply? I believe it would.

I think the differences are real but are exaggerated by those with a keen interest in dividing us. The difference is smaller than we think. The subject is so politicized that you can't trust any source. So be careful, because there are people out there showing you what they want you to believe. We are all being manipulated.
 

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All the attacks on 'white culture' and claims of 'white supremacy' and 'systematic racism' are attempts to deflect from the fact that a significant portion of black folks, who live in the dysfunctional 'black culture' cannot assimilate into a civilization that is past the hunter/gatherer level.

Instead of demanding accountability and civility, and holding people to simple standards and rules for a society, they attack that society as racist.

'black culture' in America did not used to be this way. I wasn't there but it seems like middle to late 60's it went downhill.
Just comparing, the white culture we see on the media isn't the real white culture. Real white culture doesn't want to cut their sons dicks off and turn them into a souless piece of shit. Real white culture isn't even recognized these days.
 

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I think the differences are real but are exaggerated by those with a keen interest in dividing us. The difference is smaller than we think. The subject is so politicized that you can't trust any source. So be careful, because there are people out there showing you what they want you to believe. We are all being manipulated.
I couldn't agree more.
 

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Yeah, I'm wary of what I see with my own eyes in this regard. The media tends to paint with such an ugly biased brush. What you never see are strong black families with good kids and honest jobs just chasing the American dream and you know those people are out there. Men and woman who make good neighbors and good friends. We are rarely shown those folks on the news.

Urban black culture is terribly broken. Poor, Ignorant blacks are being preyed upon by race hustlers and socialists the same as pharma have victimized rural whites with narcotics and the disability treadmill.

It sure seems like urban blacks are trying with all their might to make everyone on the planet despise them. And predominantly black nations seem backwards and prone to failure. But most of the communist democides have been arranged by whites and Asians. They are all failures.

Ask yourself this - if the black community adopted mainstream white American culture, would the level of criminality drop sharply? I believe it would.

I think the differences are real but are exaggerated by those with a keen interest in dividing us. The difference is smaller than we think. The subject is so politicized that you can't trust any source. So be careful, because there are people out there showing you what they want you to believe. We are all being manipulated.
White culture requires a level of intelligence many don't appear to possess. Those that have the minimum level to succeed seem to do so, but they're a minority in a minority.
 

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Honestly, this strikes me more as a city thing than anything else. Like anything feral, they come in all breeds, and the behavior is a matter of environment and upbringing more than race.

Any time I get tempted to generalize, I don't get very far before remembering Thomas Sowell, a very intelligent man and a fantastic writer who grew up admiring Malcolm X but was smart enough to see the error of those ways by observing the cause and effect nature of reality. Just this morning I read the beginning of an article this morning about a former BLM member talking about how the BLM leadership is just selling dependency and cashing in on dues, book deals, and the like.
Thomas Sowell is a national treasure. And in his defense, there was some merit in some of the things Malcolm X supported. He hated white liberals, for example.

I guess this is as good a spot to throw this out as any since the thread seems to be drifting towards racial sociology.
The thing that I struggle to get my mind around because nobody has ever been able to explain it to me is why the Black Community generally shuns people like Thomas Sowell and Dr. Ben Carson as being "Uncle Toms" for daring to better themselves, rise above poverty, and take on a commanding position in society. Most of the leaders that I see in the Black Community these days bear the title "Reverend", which is commendable, but also tend to end up with a litany of morally questionable problems and/or legal issues. It's like the culture creates a negative reinforcement loop that attempts to prevent anyone from rising above their station by wit and merit. I don't get it; all this talk of breaking the cycle of poverty, violence, and narcotics, and then you're immediately shit on if you try to actually do it. From outward appearances, its like the only way out is to be a celebrity influencer, entertainer, or athlete. And there ain't enough openings for those to go around. To many others lean on politicians' promises of righting generational injustices and staying stuck where they are.
 

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White culture requires a level of intelligence many don't appear to possess. Those that have the minimum level to succeed seem to do so, but they're a minority in a minority.
For cultures to succeed it takes opportunity to improve one's life and condition. Poor white southern trash isn't much different than poor ghetto trash.
 

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White culture requires a level of intelligence many don't appear to possess. Those that have the minimum level to succeed seem to do so, but they're a minority in a minority.
I think it's the vicious cycle of the culture. When it's cool to be an illiterate thug and those that try to succeed get ostracized, it's a recipe for disaster. I don't beleive they have any less brain capacity than the rest of us.
 

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White culture requires a level of intelligence many don't appear to possess. Those that have the minimum level to succeed seem to do so, but they're a minority in a minority.
Even if there is a one standard deviation shift in the means as you suggest, that means 15% of blacks are smarter than the average white.
 

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For cultures to succeed it takes opportunity to improve one's life and condition. Poor white southern trash isn't much different than poor ghetto trash.
Different enough that your chances of being murdered by them are a lot less. I'm not fond of going to trailerparks, but I've done so and never felt threatened; I felt threatened every day I worked in the ghetto on the way to my secure parking garage and workplace. We saw a lot of ghetto trash and they had pulled guns in the past but our security had no guns (we did have one cop on-site for 3000+ employees and several thousand clients).
 

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I think it's the vicious cycle of the culture. When it's cool to be an illiterate thug and those that try to succeed get ostracized, it's a recipe for disaster. I don't beleive they have any less brain capacity than the rest of us.
They test 15 points lower in the US and worse back in Africa, even on non-verbal tests that should have no cultural biases. Black children raised by White parents still don't perform to the level of White children, but they do show marked improvement (e.g., MN adoption study) - especially compared to siblings raised by other blacks. Black students from families with incomes above $100K perform worse on standardized tests than White kids who live in poverty or near-poverty.
 
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I really saw that video as more of a generational thing than a race thing. Younger folk are basically, what was your term, feral humans. Don't think it has much to do with race per se, more to do with how they were raised. Without proper education and social training: we are all just animals.
 

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Thomas Sowell is a national treasure. And in his defense, there was some merit in some of the things Malcolm X supported. He hated white liberals, for example.

I guess this is as good a spot to throw this out as any since the thread seems to be drifting towards racial sociology.
The thing that I struggle to get my mind around because nobody has ever been able to explain it to me is why the Black Community generally shuns people like Thomas Sowell and Dr. Ben Carson as being "Uncle Toms" for daring to better themselves, rise above poverty, and take on a commanding position in society. Most of the leaders that I see in the Black Community these days bear the title "Reverend", which is commendable, but also tend to end up with a litany of morally questionable problems and/or legal issues. It's like the culture creates a negative reinforcement loop that attempts to prevent anyone from rising above their station by wit and merit. I don't get it; all this talk of breaking the cycle of poverty, violence, and narcotics, and then you're immediately shit on if you try to actually do it. From outward appearances, its like the only way out is to be a celebrity influencer, entertainer, or athlete. And there ain't enough openings for those to go around. To many others lean on politicians' promises of righting generational injustices and staying stuck where they are.
I have an opinion on this but it's bigger than I want to write. Just to keep it small I will say it's peer pressure that keeps the black community in a specific voting block. You can see the same peer pressure among liberals of all colors. Now with the net and fakebook you can watch peer pressure being used every minute.
 

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I think it's the vicious cycle of the culture. When it's cool to be an illiterate thug and those that try to succeed get ostracized, it's a recipe for disaster. I don't beleive they have any less brain capacity than the rest of us.
A more simple answer is the cancel culture started in the black community only instead of yanking people off fakebook and Twitter they put a bullet in you.
 

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Even if there is a one standard deviation shift in the means as you suggest, that means 15% of blacks are smarter than the average white.
Yes - there are even blacks who test at the genius level, but they are represented, IIRC, something around 50 times less frequently in the black population than among Whites (already only 1% or less of that population). You could infer that Thomas Sowell was one. Basketball player David Robinson scored highly on his SAT - and it showed in his eloquence when speaking and his discipline, which is likely what got him in Annapolis.
 
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Thomas Sowell is a national treasure. And in his defense, there was some merit in some of the things Malcolm X supported. He hated white liberals, for example.
That strikes me as a quite reasonable starting point :D

I guess this is as good a spot to throw this out as any since the thread seems to be drifting towards racial sociology.
The thing that I struggle to get my mind around because nobody has ever been able to explain it to me is why the Black Community generally shuns people like Thomas Sowell and Dr. Ben Carson as being "Uncle Toms" for daring to better themselves, rise above poverty, and take on a commanding position in society. Most of the leaders that I see in the Black Community these days bear the title "Reverend", which is commendable, but also tend to end up with a litany of morally questionable problems and/or legal issues. It's like the culture creates a negative reinforcement loop that attempts to prevent anyone from rising above their station by wit and merit.
It's really no different that the bumper stickers along the lines of "my kid beat up your honor student". Bettering oneself requires challenging oneself. Many who do not wish to challenge themselves prefer to ridicule those who do.

I don't get it; all this talk of breaking the cycle of poverty, violence, and narcotics, and then you're immediately shit on if you try to actually do it. From outward appearances, its like the only way out is to be a celebrity influencer, entertainer, or athlete. And there ain't enough openings for those to go around. To many others lean on politicians' promises of righting generational injustices and staying stuck where they are.
Those are the people cashing in on the lip service. Say the right things and make no effort.
Some of the proposed recipients wise up though:
 

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Not sure about the number we're blaming directly on hospitals, as a number had co-morbidities and even the flu or a bad cold could've killed them, though hospitals likely blamed Covid because of the financial incentives to do so.
Civized? Lie to the public for years while they take the cash for their lies. More people die every year from poor doctors care than what murders are done by all communities. What ever color if a person commits a crime then justice says do the time.

One thing that makes blacks hate whites is the elite never pay for their crimes. 600 can die in a year in Chicago due to street violence yet 38 million can be murdered with covid and not one mo fo goes to jail.
 

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Sorry for ruining the thread, go back to the government sponsored division to keep us all sidetracked and be happy.

Oh look at those blacks, what a bunch of animals.. :unsure:
 

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All the attacks on 'white culture' and claims of 'white supremacy' and 'systematic racism' are attempts to deflect from the fact that a significant portion of black folks, who live in the dysfunctional 'black culture' cannot assimilate into a civilization that is past the hunter/gatherer level.

Instead of demanding accountability and civility, and holding people to simple standards and rules for a society, they attack that society as racist.

'black culture' in America did not used to be this way. I wasn't there but it seems like middle to late 60's it went downhill.
Not a 'black' culture thing, it is urban culture that is the problem. There should be no 'assimilation' for families that have been here now for many generations. Rather there are destructive forces in play making excuses and raising the like of george floyd to sainthood maliciously.

Yeah, I'm wary of what I see with my own eyes in this regard. The media tends to paint with such an ugly biased brush. What you never see are strong black families with good kids and honest jobs just chasing the American dream and you know those people are out there. Men and woman who make good neighbors and good friends. We are rarely shown those folks on the news.

Urban black culture is terribly broken. Poor, Ignorant blacks are being preyed upon by race hustlers and socialists the same as pharma have victimized rural whites with narcotics and the disability treadmill.

It sure seems like urban blacks are trying with all their might to make everyone on the planet despise them. And predominantly black nations seem backwards and prone to failure. But most of the communist democides have been arranged by whites and Asians. They are all failures.

Ask yourself this - if the black community adopted mainstream white American culture, would the level of criminality drop sharply? I believe it would.

I think the differences are real but are exaggerated by those with a keen interest in dividing us. The difference is smaller than we think. The subject is so politicized that you can't trust any source. So be careful, because there are people out there showing you what they want you to believe. We are all being manipulated.
As is said, the cream rises to the top. You see what you want to see, or more correctly these days what the PTB want you to see. There are plenty of black families working and living the American dream out there. But that is not who THEY want you to see.

Can blacks succeed in America? Hell yes, but the .gov lead decay in urban culture has severely tied their hands. Insert my president johnson meme here about having them voting democrat for 200 years. If there is no reason to be industrious and work then human nature is always going to win out. The urban population is being played as the next round of useful idiots. Being as they posess very little productive life skills they will be the first to feel the blow of commie 'down sizing' when the time arrives.

Stegs you are a reader, find Night Comes to the Cumberland by Harry Cudill. An easy read about the coal fields of Eastern Kentucky, very insightful especially when read now 60 some years later.

White culture requires a level of intelligence many don't appear to possess. Those that have the minimum level to succeed seem to do so, but they're a minority in a minority.
No 'white' culture about it... Plenty if white trash out there living off the system. The education system has been systematically destroyed, the urban districts (aka democrat/union controlled) don't stand a chance.

Thomas Sowell is a national treasure. And in his defense, there was some merit in some of the things Malcolm X supported. He hated white liberals, for example.

I guess this is as good a spot to throw this out as any since the thread seems to be drifting towards racial sociology.
The thing that I struggle to get my mind around because nobody has ever been able to explain it to me is why the Black Community generally shuns people like Thomas Sowell and Dr. Ben Carson as being "Uncle Toms" for daring to better themselves, rise above poverty, and take on a commanding position in society. Most of the leaders that I see in the Black Community these days bear the title "Reverend", which is commendable, but also tend to end up with a litany of morally questionable problems and/or legal issues. It's like the culture creates a negative reinforcement loop that attempts to prevent anyone from rising above their station by wit and merit. I don't get it; all this talk of breaking the cycle of poverty, violence, and narcotics, and then you're immediately shit on if you try to actually do it. From outward appearances, its like the only way out is to be a celebrity influencer, entertainer, or athlete. And there ain't enough openings for those to go around. To many others lean on politicians' promises of righting generational injustices and staying stuck where they are.
American culture has been lead to shy away from productivity. Lead to the 'easy and fast buck'. It's all been a part of the .gov plan, accelerated under johnson. The PTB don't want to celebrate Sowell etc because he does not fit the mold of who they want, aka more useful idiots. The PTB use their 'social influencers' in the msm and other peer pressures to exclude the productive and those that have seen the light. Even hildabeast too flack for saying 'all lives matter' because that was not the narrative the PTB wanted pushed. Lean on the .gov all you want ti solve problems, keep waiting, they will only make the problems worse (but I think we had that thread last week).
 
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