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Water, Second Only to air...

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Funny, we can pipe oil everywhere but we don't pipe water around.

Click on water and power...

Also take a look at US Army Corps of Engineers' current and historical projects.

Piping water around is how we got into this incredible mess.
 

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Harbinger...
Water concerns, are why I make sure, I've got 1500 to 2000 miles worth of fuel here at the house.

Lack of water, or lack of power to pull up water from the ground,,best have some way to make to mad dash to natural resources.

Of course, its raining like hell right now down this way, early monsoon has arrived....

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Someone asked me the other day, why I keep my old 91 chevy pickup,,,,,36 gallon gas tank!
Makes a great storage tank,,,,
 

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South of Cartersville.

It's not the natural resources that have made me regret my choices, it's a certain percentage of the population that just gets more and more uncivilized every year. Didn't think it was going to be a problem but now if feels like, it's going to be a problem that just gets worse long term.
The thin vernier of civilization…
 

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Closer to metro ATL one gets the threat of total mayhem goes up exponentially per mile from 50 mile radius of perimeter. We are about as close possible but have an odd situation as only Southside of county developed. Then where our house is surrounded three sides by water, so much water and "country roads" we get the access if put in the effort but for people migrating out coming our direction is most difficult due to terrain and interstate taking them toward SC and Lake Hartwell not Lanier.

Not one house has been built on our peninsula in over a decade closer to two. Unless they float it just can't happen. Bridges are narrow so all major traffic routes quarter away from us as exit ATL encouraging migrations to go either east or west and road we live on has more farm land than residential. Very odd little pocket that makes us low profile, out of travel lanes and easy to defend.
 

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Michael Snyder is all doom porn, but he usually draws his information from credible sources, he just paints it in the worst possible light. It looks like Kansas wheat production may be impacted, add to that Ukraine/Russia war, dust bowl conditions, lack of water and electricity, things might get dicy in a few months.


But, probably a big nothing burger like viruses and nuclear war. People need something to be askeered of....
 

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Michael Snyder is all doom porn, but he usually draws his information from credible sources, he just paints it in the worst possible light. It looks like Kansas wheat production may be impacted, add to that Ukraine/Russia war, dust bowl conditions, lack of water and electricity, things might get dicy in a few months.


But, probably a big nothing burger like viruses and nuclear war. People need something to be askeered of....
He got it pretty damn close this time,,,,,,,,areas north of us,,,,Vegas, and other run off areas with water diverted to California, are way down and have been, going into well over a decade now.

California is about to suffer like none of us have ever seen before many folks are predicting.
 

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1" of water on one acre is a shade over 27,000 gallons. I think those 800 farms in the article are all over an acre in size. Not counting the yards watered and pools filled, it would take a tremendous pipeline to supply the needed water to anything but a handful of farms for the needed water for any crop.

I worked as an irrigation engineer for a short period in Kansas, and most of those center pivots were pumping 1,200 to 1,500 gal/min, and the standard practice to get an inch of water on the corn ground (144 acre circle, minus the corners that didn't get watered) was a three day circle running 24/7. That was just one inch applied, it usually took at least 8 more runs (some rain did fall from the sky in that part of Kansas) to bring the crop to a finish. That's just one farmer and one field of corn. That's 31 million gallons (740,000 barrels in oil nomenclature) for just one farmer. I just don't see how the transportation logistics work out with water like they do with energy.
 

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Michael Snyder is all doom porn, but he usually draws his information from credible sources, he just paints it in the worst possible light. It looks like Kansas wheat production may be impacted, add to that Ukraine/Russia war, dust bowl conditions, lack of water and electricity, things might get dicy in a few months.


But, probably a big nothing burger like viruses and nuclear war. People need something to be askeered of....
Southern AZ, here in our area, which runs up toward Tucson, over to the NM border, and west to Nogales, was in severe drought, until about a month ago, when it began raining, and really has not stopped daily since.

The house here, just topped well over five inches for a total this monsoon season, we picked up another 1.5 to 2 inches this afternoon, and damn, can't check the gauge, still pouring down rain with a severe light show.

Couple of years back, we got less than five inches in a year!

The desert right now, is in full bloom, green everywhere...

Droughts out this way, can be broken in a month or so, often happens that way.

These below were when the rains today had just began;
 

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Southern AZ, here in our area, which runs up toward Tucson, over to the NM border, and west to Nogales, was in severe drought, until about a month ago, when it began raining, and really has not stopped daily since.

The house here, just topped well over five inches for a total this monsoon season, we picked up another 1.5 to 2 inches this afternoon, and damn, can't check the gauge, still pouring down rain with a severe light show.

Couple of years back, we got less than five inches in a year!

The desert right now, is in full bloom, green everywhere...

Droughts out this way, can be broken in a month or so, often happens that way.

These below were when the rains today had just began;
That’s great to hear! But I think there is a difference between broader geographic areas and localized rainfall.

I’ve read future wars will be fought over water. But, who knows, there will always be a reason to have a war.
 

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That’s great to hear! But I think there is a difference between broader geographic areas and localized rainfall.

I’ve read future wars will be fought over water. But, who knows, there will always be a reason to have a war.
AZ as a whole is doing OK on water,,,,but you're right, the large population centers to the far west, they are about to be screwed.

We've had to go to court twice in past ten years, to stop Tucson and even Phoenix from tapping into our aquifer here.
Which is about, 30 miles wide and 45 or 50 miles long.

California is going to be faced with,,,,,water for drinking, or water for crop planting shortly.

By all accounts I've read,,,,,,,,we could be seeing a massive population movement, over water out this way.
We can't absorbed southern California's massive population into AZ lands, and can the nation handle no food stuffs in quantity coming out of California?

Agree,,,,future wars will be fought over water, just a matter of time.
 

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Monsoons not going to fill Mead.
Desalinated piped there might..given 10-20 years. Kali will go dry and without power before they give up being green. Az needs to be looking at desalinaion ..Sea of Cortez. Easy pipe to the border, mehico gets half..FKali
 

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Cynical as I am I can't think of a better way to get people to move than to open the dams and let the water drain out. Lots of money to be made on forcing folks to move and once they are gone you can buy the land for nothing.
 

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Monsoons not going to fill Mead.
Desalinated piped there might..given 10-20 years. Kali will go dry and without power before they give up being green. Az needs to be looking at desalinaion ..Sea of Cortez. Easy pipe to the border, mehico gets half..FKali
I was watching a report, and the engineers were saying, all that heavy electrical generation equipment was never designed to be completely shutdown, from a lack of water feeding the turbines, and it may be to late to save the facilities.
I'm not a mechanical type person, but those engineers looked scared to death, ie, one day not to far away, the lights were going to go out and not come back on for huge segments of the population out this way.
We get our juice from Palo Verde, one of the worlds largest nuke plants, but if Mead goes dry, they'd divert it to other locations.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/t...g-could-soon-be-at-dead-pool-level/ar-AAZjJht
 

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Why can't California desalinate water from the Pacific? They do that in Israel. Someone can then sell the extracted salt.
BeCaUsE ThE EnViRoNmENt! Duh!! Technology bad!!

Kali will go dry and without power before they give up being green.
Quoted for truth.

California will go dry and they'll punt the problem uphill to the Feds and want Federal tax dollars to fix it.
 

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The elite will dry up kali and drive people out then buy the land for nothing. Let the water build back up and farm the land making billions.

It's not a drought problem, it's the elite that run our world problem.

Way too long for most to read but it gives a great explanation of how we got here and where the elite want to force us to go. Smart guy, Hanson understands and has enough name recognition that folks believe him.

 
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2 minute with a final advice to Americans
 

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Getting grim .

At least two known cultures vanished for the same drought reasons in the Southwest.
There is a guy in Tucson, harvests over 150,000 gallons rainwater during monsoon on 1/8 acre in downtown. Three books out i think, but only a few catching on out west. The wealthier are putting in multi-hundred thousand gallon cisterns in the Tucson area. it doesnt take much rain to fill up with an adequate roof or collection system. There will be survivors, and CFMe has good points, as the migration begins, land will be cheap(er).
 

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2 minute with a final advice to Americans
Jim, it’ll be here sooner than we hope. Things like the link I post below are popping up everywhere. PivotBio was on RFD-TV recently touting how their recent discovery will reduce the need for synthetic “N” everywhere. They are going to force every plant to become a legume with a chemical injected in the ground when seed is planted. They claim it will help the plant pull part of that 78% N1 we breathe every minute of every day into usable N2 for the plant. I hate that fucking term synthetic. It makes it sound like we are injecting the natural gas used to make anhydrous ammonia, when it’s just the heat source used to cause the huge fans blowing the same air we breathe over catalysts to precipitate the NH3 out of the air. Notice there is no C1 to C4 in
that molecule. And isn’t this getting dangerously close to GMO, that other overused term that scares all the Karens


 
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