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"The Surplus Rifle Manifesto"

bykerhd

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EBRs are fun to shoot, but I usually find myself handling the older C & R type bolt action Enfields, Mosins, Mausers, etc. more often. And enjoying it more. Even the crude, wartime production Mosins of WWII seem to ooze character as well as cosmoline and shellac chips.
 

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This is my rifle. There are many like it. But, this one is mine.

My collection of U.S. martial arms begins with an 1803 Harper's Ferry rifle (replica), a Springfield 1863 rifled musket (replica), M1888 rod bayonet Springfield, M1898 Krag-Jorgensen rifle, M1903A1 Springfield, USMC M1942 Sniper's Springfield, Springfield M1 Garand, M1C Sniper's Garand, M1D Sniper's Garand, M14 and M21 Sniper's-clones, and M16A2 and XM177E2-clones.

I also have my inch and metric FALs, CETME and H&K G3SG-1 Sniper's clone, Yugo Kar98k, Indian 2A1, Russian SKS-45, and AKM SAR-1, SAR-2, and SAR-3.

Thr AK's and AR/M16 guns are fun to shoot, but they don't begin to exude the character of the symphonies in wood and steel of the main battle rifles.

I really get a laugh a the guys with their intermediate calibers and the "Bambi Slayers" with their scoped wonder rifles and .30-30 brush guns when I pull an MBR from its case. They have some ideas that the MBR can't shoot (in truth it's they that can't) and the rifle isn't sexy like theirs (beauty is in the eye of the beholder).

I tell them that my rifle is a tool; it was built to work under conditions theirs rarely see. It was built to work EVERY time. It was built to function with minimal maintenance. It was the difference between life and death for the man that carried it into harm's way.

And then the old war horse gets to show it's stuff and the smirks and laughs change to wonderous disbelief. The old war horse belches fire and recoils and a nice, tight shot group follows.

:fal:
 

indy_Muaddib

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from time to time i will be heading outside to smoke and will have the urge to grab one of the guns off the rack and carry it outside with me.

its not unusual to see me standing outside at 3 in the morning with a mosin or SKS on my shoulder.
 

kayakpirate

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When I was going through the admission process for the police academy
I had to get a psychological evaluation....just to find out how nuts I am.
During this ordeal I had to take a version of the MMPI.
One of the fill in the dot series of questions had to do with firearm ownership.
"Do I take out and admire my firearms",well...of course I said yes.
During my inerview I mentioned this question,and that I thought it made it
seem that if I enjoyed owning the firearm I might be a loon.
The bearded pschologist smirked and skirted the issue.
I mentioned the machine work of my buddies Luger collection,
the brilliance of the Garand.Of the history those grains in the wood stock have seen.
He muttered something about Freud and how guns kill people.
My next comment had to do the duality of questioning gun ownership in a career where its pretty much mandatory.
No answer seemed forthcoming...
Yes! I take out my older rifles and pistols and admire them! I admit it!
Stone me in the Cazbah,burn me at a stake but I like those old guns.
They have a hell of a lot more character than that hairhead shrink.
 

raubvogel

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I think there is no duality. Unless you are talking about a weapon which thinks for itself and has authority to pick its targets and shoot them, guns do not kill people. It is the loonie behind it that has the final authority.

I believe guns can be admired as a work of art and metallurgy, as a way to understand the people that created it and their culture, as a piece of history, and as a technological achievement. But it also should be treated with respect. It is a device created to kill -- this is its entire reason for being -- and should be handled as such. Treat it with the respect it deserves, and make sure others do the same, and life will be great.

Which is the same issue I have with a lot of drivers; they do not realize they are steering, or something close to that, a 3000lb of metal that can smash squishy beings if not properly controlled and maintained. But, I digress...
 

Anubis

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Big thumbs up for all the posts in this thread. Nothing nowadays, -unless you're spending the big bucks on a really high-end custom piece - comes close to these old rifles' quality and craftsmanship, let alone their place in history.

About three weeks ago, I took my Martini-Henry MkII rifle in .450/577 caliber, to one of the local ranges. Only shot off ten rounds, but man! I definately got the attention of ALL the AR guys on the range.
 

Abominog

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There is little difference between admiring a Ming vase, a rare butterfly, or a firearm.

When I hold a Lithgow L1A1 I hold what was known to be mechancial perfection at the time; a unique piece that can be discerned from all others like it; and the history of a small town and people.
 

enbloc8

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Abominog said:
There is little difference between admiring a Ming vase, a rare butterfly, or a firearm.

When I hold a Lithgow L1A1 I hold what was known to be mechancial perfection at the time; a unique piece that can be discerned from all others like it; and the history of a small town and people.
What he said!

As one with a bit of experience in metalworking, I can take something as ordinary as an L1A1 or Springfield bolt and spend hours marveling at the intricate engineering and ponder the steps and techniques involved in making it.
 

lowprone

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The surplus

These are the posts that express the feelings of true Americans and they
scare the anti's more than you can imagine.
That there are countless millions of these rifles squirreled away under
staircases and in attics rarely visited, produce nightmares in the progressives
troubled sleep.
That we can see where this is all going someday, gives me hope.
 

ALL FAL

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These are the posts that express the feelings of true Americans and they
scare the anti's more than you can imagine.
That there are countless millions of these rifles squirreled away under
staircases and in attics rarely visited, produce nightmares in the progressives
troubled sleep.
That we can see where this is all going someday, gives me hope.
Well Said, we need some hope, all of us KrAZy GuN NUtZ who foam at the mouth and hunt Progressives and their Children to EAT. :p:| :|

Get and Keep all your MBR'S READY To Rock!!
 
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