Wow, that is almost half firebox. Lousy coal?
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THE GREAT TRAIN THREAD!!..
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Doug_262
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gunner30
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gunner30
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How about a train ,and, an FAL?
No, Canada had great coal, but that was apparently to superheat the steam? It was an odd experiment for a normally very conservative and evolutionary motive power division. If there ever was a group of people unwilling to take a huge risk, it was those guys.
However, CPR was a leader in the the development of super power and feedwater heaters. Notice the Elesco on the front of the smokebox of most CPR units. They were extremely cutting edge there and believed in getting more out of less.
The normal 2-10-4s were extremely conventional super power units. The locos we’re identical other than evolutionary changed under the streamlining. T1a’s were unshrouded, streamliners we’re T1b and T1c.
The small drivers were unique to the type. Most Road’s 2-10-4s were high steppers for fast freight, but these were purpose built mountain goats that looked a bit ridiculous with the short drivers. Like a Sumo wrestler with size 4 feet. The streamlining was obviously for appearance only.
The Beer Can Hudsons. The Nethercutt Museum in Commiefornia has one on display that once ran excursions on the Southern RR. #2839.
I guess the lack of driveshafts is the anti-theft measure?
Damn I missed that!I guess the lack of driveshafts is the anti-theft measure?
hahahaha
Not going anywhere fast. Oh wait, they weren’t fast, even with the driveshafts installed. Talk about a Monkey Motion setup.
That's what my great grandpa called the Walschaerts valve gear.
There's some pretty good videos taken on the Cass line with multi-header geared engines, They made quite the roar at 20 MPH. There was an old logger saying that "A Shay (or other geared engine) would follow two lines scratched in the dirt". If you read the book "Darius Kinsey: the locomotive portraits" in some of the period logging pics you can barely see the railheads through the mud. Excellent book by the way.
Yeah, I’ve seen them on the Cass, doing their thing. Never seen a Heisler run, but maybe someday.
We need more pics... this is 1964 at Trinidad Wa. Not sure what's on point. GP-18,20? Its turbocharged. Followed by 2 GP 30s and 2 GP 35s that look brand new. That bridge is still there and a hazard to oversized loads.
Cass has a running Heisler.
More pics. If you’re a motive power fan, CPR played with all makes of internal combustion. ALCo was a huge player right from the first RS and FA/FB combos, but they were mostly roamedthe eastern division through Eastern Canada and New England.
They also made huge bets on Fairbanks Morse, with their opposed piston diesels that were so familiar to submariners. The FM units were a big success, and were relegated to the Mountain West, where their smooth power was best utilized.
CPR was also onboard with the big 6 axle Trainmaster, the 4 axle Baby Trainmaster, and the entire lineup of C-Liners.
EMD made up the rest, which dominated the Prairie West.
They even tried a handful of Baldwin diesels, but walked away after some somewhat unspectacular results. Here’s some ALCo FA/FB, RS lash ups, both 244 and 251prime movers.
They also made huge bets on Fairbanks Morse, with their opposed piston diesels that were so familiar to submariners. The FM units were a big success, and were relegated to the Mountain West, where their smooth power was best utilized.
CPR was also onboard with the big 6 axle Trainmaster, the 4 axle Baby Trainmaster, and the entire lineup of C-Liners.
EMD made up the rest, which dominated the Prairie West.
They even tried a handful of Baldwin diesels, but walked away after some somewhat unspectacular results. Here’s some ALCo FA/FB, RS lash ups, both 244 and 251prime movers.
The ALCos were highly prized for heavy freight work. They supposedly had a better starting ability for heavy trains and their turbocharged engines would really dig in under load.
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There's nothing quite liike watching an ALCO smoking it up!
Fairbanks-Morse also had great success on the CPR. The big H24-66 Trainmasters were bought, and a handful of them received the full width short hood to store steam generators for passenger operation. These were known as “Hammerheads”. They were eventually bumped off of passenger service due to the “Honorary Steam Engine” dirty, smoky exhaust they had.
Originally they ran long hood forward, but after the steam generators were removed, they were rebuilt with a narrow short hood
You could tell which was the front end at a glance by looking where the lightning stripe in the paint was.
Originally they ran long hood forward, but after the steam generators were removed, they were rebuilt with a narrow short hood
You could tell which was the front end at a glance by looking where the lightning stripe in the paint was.
Milwaukee 851 takes on water at Moses Lake, Wa. (My hometown). It's handing off cars to the Us Army for Larson AFB. The USA doodle bug would take the cars another few miles to the air base. These pics were from 1945.
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Boston and Main snowplow opening up the line to Townsend Mass, winter 1977
Speaking of Doodlebugs….
And you better have good shoes. They broke down a fair bit, usually miles from anywhere.
And you better have good shoes. They broke down a fair bit, usually miles from anywhere.
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How about doodlebugs that went on to live another life? This is a Sperry rail car I saw in 1976
aren’t these 4,000 horsepower per engine or something crazy?
4,400 HP, and they are working on putting more into a single unit.
One of the old White Pass and Yukon narrow gauge locomotives running at Dollywood in TN. Quite a bit of fun to watch and ride.