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Surviving a modern war.

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I watched a good video by Col Douglas McGregor that's an hour plus long with him discussing armies and warfare. Toward the end he assessed that with all the technology the foot soldiers are going to get killed easily if they stand still.

A good discussion might save some lives, I am not sure our lives are meant to be saved. Here is just one of his videos.

 

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If war does come to American soil it will be the result of American politicians finally turning America's military might against its own populations, at the behest of their foreign owners, er, donors. But that would only be the solution after years of weaponized alphabet agencies have lost their intimidation factor. And even a rifle behind every blade of grass won't stop the mechanized high tech stuff.
 

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I thought it was pronounced "kam-i-koz-ee," like the WWII Japanese suicide pilots.

Honestly, I'm not really worried. The chances of Russians deploying these on US soil are pretty slim.

Edit: fat fingers and autocorrect
 
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I thought it was iron ounces "kam-i-koz-ee," like the WWII Japanese suicide pilots.

Honestly, I'm not really worried. The chances of Russians deploying these on US soil are pretty slim.
But the possibility of the US govt doing so is real.
 

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I watch a lot of videos and read a lot. Makes me want to talk to others about what I see and get their take on things.

I tend to say things folks don't agree with and that's a good thing as it makes for better conversation.

Col McGregor is a brilliant warrior, I have been watching his videos and comparing what he says with what we are told by media.

He knows war. He also speaks to the tactics the Russians use and their equipment.

The Russians and the CCP use drones, we have too so if you watch how the drones are being used it brings a new light on how effective they are.

There is a lot to discuss if drone wars come here, watch some of those little bastards kill people.

It's stand off warfare that the Russians are very skilled at. When it comes here how will you survive?


 
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And even a rifle behind every blade of grass won't stop the mechanized high tech stuff.
Yeah, I think they are working hard to get there.
Maybe they’re worried that the people will rise up before they’re ready.
Looking around, I would assure them that conservative America will never rise up and stand for our freedom. We’re just not those people anymore.
Now you can be all pissed off about that idea, but I would think if we were going to act, we’d have done it by now. We’re not. Ever…
 

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I watched a good video by Col Douglas McGregor that's an hour plus long with him discussing armies and warfare. Toward the end he assessed that with all the technology the foot soldiers are going to get killed easily if they stand still.

A good discussion might save some lives, I am not sure our lives are meant to be saved. Here is just one of his videos.

Technology is good only if you have logistical support,once you cut that support no more go go juice, no more go go juice no more electricity.
No more fuel for drones and no more computers to fly them.
Bombers and fighters were going to win WWII but it ended up with troops on the ground and occupying territory and Hess we did drop two nukes at the end but they had to fly from somewhere.

Vietnam was a test bed for new technology, the scientists developed a device that sensed urine (which was usually placed in a helicopter and flown at low levels) the idea was that concentration of ammonia(urine) indicated that North Vietnamese or VC were in the area and airstrikes would be called in, the North Vietnamese countered that with collecting urine in containers and leaving them to be "found" while they were somewhere else thus fooling technology.

Thermal sights can be countered by anything that gives off a heat source, here where I live we have a lot of large rocks that absorb heat during the day and it clutters the sight/ scope of the thermal.

Technology can be defeated by people if they have the know how.
 

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Technology is good only if you have logistical support,once you cut that support no more go go juice, no more go go juice no more electricity.
No more fuel for drones and no more computers to fly them.
Bombers and fighters were going to win WWII but it ended up with troops on the ground and occupying territory and Hess we did drop two nukes at the end but they had to fly from somewhere.

Vietnam was a test bed for new technology, the scientists developed a device that sensed urine (which was usually placed in a helicopter and flown at low levels) the idea was that concentration of ammonia(urine) indicated that North Vietnamese or VC were in the area and airstrikes would be called in, the North Vietnamese countered that with collecting urine in containers and leaving them to be "found" while they were somewhere else thus fooling technology.

Thermal sights can be countered by anything that gives off a heat source, here where I live we have a lot of large rocks that absorb heat during the day and it clutters the sight/ scope of the thermal.

Technology can be defeated by people if they have the know how.
I believe the CCP will be our main adversary in the comming war, from what I have seen they will be very determined.
 

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Have considered the "Red Dawn" scenario and just don't see the U.S. being invaded and defeated by a foreign power anytime in the next hundred years. Even if our military has to pull out everything from WW II battle ships to first generation stealth technology from mothballs nobody is going toe to toe with our military anytime soon. The threat is from within.

The Rothschild's financial empire, Bilderberger's, Trilateral Commission, some world wide version of the E.U. will all come to drive our own government into becoming the enemy. Most cops I know and most military folks I know are not going to do this dirty work. Our government will hire private military contractors to help them drive us into submission. Many private contracting firms are bigger and better equipped than many countries Armies and other military branches combined strengths.

The first six parts of the Bill of Rights will have to be suspended and rescinded quickly. Cops and military are sworn to uphold our Constitution and Bill of Rights but private contractors are not. These all have to go, someone will declare a national emergency, all of these will be suspended and private contractors who only want money and care zip about constitutional rights will start going door to door and some of us will be the first visited.
  • Amendment I. Freedoms, Petitions, Assembly. ...
  • Amendment II. Right to bear arms. ...
  • Amendment III. Quartering of soldiers. ...
  • Amendment IV. Search and arrest. ...
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  • Amendment VI. Right to a fair trial. ...
The trick will be to meet these folks with enough cunning and force the cost in manpower to continue operating becomes too great. Spent two years of college taking Military Science (ROTC) then decades following my 4F on physical required for Airborne School studying both U.S. and Russian tactics. Now I seem to learn more how to fight an overwhelming force from terrorists. "Taliban mortars", I.E.D.s, etc and how to use them is how we can convince whomever it's not worth dying for a paycheck.

My basement looks more like a cross between Frankenstein's Laboratory, a military surplus warehouse, ammo factory and gunshop. Learning how to use a piece of steel pipe to launch propane cylinders, black powder cannons, medium priced drones and other easily sourced items is a great way to project force and keep the fight as far from your front door as long as possible. Everything from electricity to home brew IEDs or even simple devices made with rat traps and shotgun shells will slow someone down enough it can make sniping as many as you can easier.

I can use starlight or thermal night vision and I can confuse it. We have enough ULCANS nets to cover the house and all our vehicles. Then there's simple fireworks that can be leveraged if someone visits after dark to confuse the crap out of any advantage they have in technology. Recently saw a video sent by a friend who attached a Ruger 10/22 pistol to a drone and with BX 25 mags was able to fly it out beyond his line of sight and rip five gallon cans to pieces. I am a big fan of neon transformers, 12 volt batteries and some step up circuitry to build 4,000 volt at 1.5 amp surprises. Digging a hole and filling with sharp sticks still works.

Combine your most modern technology with everything imaginable going back to cave man technology and I believe a few men to a squad or platoon size organized group could really make a mess. Especially if they not only work from a defensive plan but go offensive against targets like the electrical grid and enough 'Mericans could really give the coming war against free thinking civilians some real teeth. But the fight will be against our own military/police being fed disinformation but most likely contractors paid straight up to quell the revolt when the Bill of Rights is suspended by decree.
 

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Just my opinion guys and right up front I don't know anything. I was watching a video on Seal teams changing tactics. They went from storming a building to stealth tactics at night with night vision. This was years ago and it wasn't a fight army to army but more a terrorist hunt.

If you watch how troops on the ground are using drones, it's a big step forward in war. A man can be miles from his target, never even see his face yet kill him with various size drones.

Some of the videos show troops shooting at the drones with rifles only to get killed by the drone.

Video of troops hiding in holes yet the drone drops a bomb on them.

McGregor covers how this type of standoff war is fought, its like nothing we have ever seen.
 

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I believe the CCP will be our main adversary in the comming war, from what I have seen they will be very determined.
Doesn't matter who the adversary is no logistics (fuel, electricity or any other supplies) no technology period! Tactics change over time you still have to find the enemy,fix them and destroy them, the technology that everyone relies on can and will fail, I know that the Army has recognized this and is going back to the basics of land navigation using paper maps and compass instead of relying on technology.
 

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Just my opinion guys and right up front I don't know anything. I was watching a video on Seal teams changing tactics. They went from storming a building to stealth tactics at night with night vision. This was years ago and it wasn't a fight army to army but more a terrorist hunt.

If you watch how troops on the ground are using drones, it's a big step forward in war. A man can be miles from his target, never even see his face yet kill him with various size drones.

Some of the videos show troops shooting at the drones with rifles only to get killed by the drone.

Video of troops hiding in holes yet the drone drops a bomb on them.

McGregor covers how this type of standoff war is fought, its like nothing we have ever seen.


Which is why having a few of these, or in my case a box of 10/22 receivers and parts to build into whatever suits my needs, is a good idea. Pull the stocks off a factory version or using an aluminum receiver with lightened bolt and lightweight pistol barrel won't be hard to fly with a decent drone. Bore sighting the barrel to the video camera then cobbling an actuator for the trigger won't be overly difficult. Flying even a 100 round drum of 22 LR takes some muscle in a drone but a 25 round magazine and lightest version of a 10/22 you can cobble up is realistic and would be darn scary to have come after you.
 

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Just pondering here but shooting down a drone with your rifle would be easier with tracer ammo. Yes you won't hit the high flying drones that have rockets but the low flying ones you might hit. Problem with shooting at flying targets is you can't see your misses, tracer ammo will give an idea where the round went.

The troops shooting at the drones didn't have optics on the rifles, would optics help or hinder?
 

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Which is why having a few of these, or in my case a box of 10/22 receivers and parts to build into whatever suits my needs, is a good idea. Pull the stocks off a factory version or using an aluminum receiver with lightened bolt and lightweight pistol barrel won't be hard to fly with a decent drone. Bore sighting the barrel to the video camera then cobbling an actuator for the trigger won't be overly difficult. Flying even a 100 round drum of 22 LR takes some muscle in a drone but a 25 round magazine and lightest version of a 10/22 you can cobble up is realistic and would be darn scary to have come after you.
Is this to hunt down drone operators or the drones they operate? I have seen drones with shotguns mounted on them in videos and they are used to hunt drones.
 

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Doesn't matter who the adversary is no logistics (fuel, electricity or any other supplies) no technology period! Tactics change over time you still have to find the enemy,fix them and destroy them, the technology that everyone relies on can and will fail, I know that the Army has recognized this and is going back to the basics of land navigation using paper maps and compass instead of relying on technology.
Have you listened to any of the McGregor videos? He has really insightful experience in war. I am old and have read a great deal on war and McGregor brings new light into wars to come.
 

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Just my opinion guys and right up front I don't know anything. I was watching a video on Seal teams changing tactics. They went from storming a building to stealth tactics at night with night vision. This was years ago and it wasn't a fight army to army but more a terrorist hunt.

If you watch how troops on the ground are using drones, it's a big step forward in war. A man can be miles from his target, never even see his face yet kill him with various size drones.

Some of the videos show troops shooting at the drones with rifles only to get killed by the drone.

Video of troops hiding in holes yet the drone drops a bomb on them.

McGregor covers how this type of standoff war is fought, its like nothing we have ever seen.
Drones and robots will be how it's done.

Going to be hard for a traditional infantry force to deal with such attacks.
 
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