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New Ruger 22 mag Wranglers
- Thread starter Colts4me
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Not to be a buzzkill, but I have heard nothing but absolute shit reviews on the wranglers, (accuracy is atrocious apparently)
Thats what steered me to Heritage.
May not be as pretty, or as fancy a finish - but came across no complaints against them.
Either way, to each - his own
Thats what steered me to Heritage.
May not be as pretty, or as fancy a finish - but came across no complaints against them.
Either way, to each - his own
W.E.G.
FAL Files Administrator
Atrocious accuracy may be a product of cheap ammo, and atrocious fixed sights.
And .22 pistol shooters can be a picky bunch. If you are accustomed to .22 target pistols, everything else is comparatively “atrocious.”
And .22 pistol shooters can be a picky bunch. If you are accustomed to .22 target pistols, everything else is comparatively “atrocious.”
mutter
Well-known member
This guy is 1 heck of an unbelievably great shot.
If the barrel is reamed for 22 WMR, then 22LR will be very loose shooting through it and accuracy will be greatly degraded. If it is set for 22lr and you shoot 22wmr then your pressure will be up and accuracy degraded.
What a strange range review and shooting experience.
He shot the 22WMR. . After switching cylinders, he first shoots accurately at close range with 22lr , then quickly moves to other targets. He never adjusts his sights (I wouldn't expect him to on a revolver) but jumps out to a 100 yd target and supposedly fires a hit. At 100 yards out of a good quality 18 inch barrel you can expect a 14.1 inch drop. Out of a short barreled pistol I'd be guessing at a minimum of 15.5 to 17 inch drop. He hit the target with speed!
Was he shooting at a pole barn?
I still love my Ruger pistols and i'd still buy 1 at $260. But I don 't like iffy reviews.
If the barrel is reamed for 22 WMR, then 22LR will be very loose shooting through it and accuracy will be greatly degraded. If it is set for 22lr and you shoot 22wmr then your pressure will be up and accuracy degraded.
What a strange range review and shooting experience.
He shot the 22WMR. . After switching cylinders, he first shoots accurately at close range with 22lr , then quickly moves to other targets. He never adjusts his sights (I wouldn't expect him to on a revolver) but jumps out to a 100 yd target and supposedly fires a hit. At 100 yards out of a good quality 18 inch barrel you can expect a 14.1 inch drop. Out of a short barreled pistol I'd be guessing at a minimum of 15.5 to 17 inch drop. He hit the target with speed!
Was he shooting at a pole barn?
I still love my Ruger pistols and i'd still buy 1 at $260. But I don 't like iffy reviews.
TerryN
Well-known member
The Super Wrangler has an MSRP of ~$325, IIRC. We'll see what the street price is. Hopefully, accuracy will be better than the standard Wrangler, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
357ross
Well-known member
Owned a single six many years ago with both cylinders. The magnum seemed to hit much more consistently than the 22lr would, no idea why, didn't know there was a difference other than the cylinder. Wonder if this wrangler is the same way.
TerryN
Well-known member
The Super Wrangler has a steel cylinder frame, unlike the standard Wrangler which is aluminum. Ruger uses a barrel best suited for the .22 WMR in their Single Six revolvers, and I assume that they will also on the Super Wrangler. There's around .003" difference in groove diameter between a .22 LR barrel and a .22 Mag (or .22 centerfire) barrel, so typically the .22 LR gives indifferent accuracy.
Farmplinker
Active member
I own both. The Ruger has better sights, and is Cerakoted. I have more rounds through the Heritage, so the action is slightly smoother, and it's easier to load.
If you look carefully, you'll find a lot of complaints about the Heritage. It's just that they've been around a lot longer, so people aren't surprised if they get a lemon. Also, cheaper than the Ruger; $200 Ruger you're going to complain about issues, but $100 from a "no-name" company, you're not supposed to be surprised if there's problems.
I've had that 'stiff loading gate' issue on the full size Vaquero.
Ruger left something of a sharp edge and texture when they cut/ground the bevel on the gate detent spring (right where I have the arrow):
The original image is from the Ruger Vaquero manual. It looks like the Wrangler diagram is numbered slightly different.
If you go to fix it yourself, be very careful not to change the length of the leg that engages the pivot of the loading gate. The length of that little leg is critical to depressing the bolt when the gate is open (so the cylinder is free to rotate for loading/unloading).
If the spring has a sharp edge or a rough surface there, that edge can be gently stoned and the tip of the spring polished to make the revolver nicer to use.
Ruger left something of a sharp edge and texture when they cut/ground the bevel on the gate detent spring (right where I have the arrow):
The original image is from the Ruger Vaquero manual. It looks like the Wrangler diagram is numbered slightly different.
If you go to fix it yourself, be very careful not to change the length of the leg that engages the pivot of the loading gate. The length of that little leg is critical to depressing the bolt when the gate is open (so the cylinder is free to rotate for loading/unloading).
If the spring has a sharp edge or a rough surface there, that edge can be gently stoned and the tip of the spring polished to make the revolver nicer to use.
silvermane_1
Well-known member
Yep, but with Heritage Rough Rider you'll probably spend and shoot many times the money you spent on the Heritage RR in ammo.
Between the Rough Rider, the Wrangler, and the single six, I enjoyed the single six the most. But, the features I enjoyed the most disqualified it for what I wanted. I wanted an inexpensive ‘snake gun’ kind of thing for clanking around outdoors. The single six was just too nice.
The wrangler and Heritage were similar enough in price point that when I caught a sale for $125, the Rough Rider just became impulse.
In hindsight I wish I’d bought the shorter barreled model but I don’t remember seeing one back then. It is accurate enough that at 15 yards it makes baseball sized groups a little to the left. No complaints with function. Great gun to teach a new shooter with.
The wrangler and Heritage were similar enough in price point that when I caught a sale for $125, the Rough Rider just became impulse.
In hindsight I wish I’d bought the shorter barreled model but I don’t remember seeing one back then. It is accurate enough that at 15 yards it makes baseball sized groups a little to the left. No complaints with function. Great gun to teach a new shooter with.
Have a Taurus Tracker in 22 Mag and the two cylinder version with a LR and Mag cylinder. My 22 Mag single cylinder lives in my "bug home" pack with a 500 round brick of premium 22 Mag ammo. Since always have an EDC in major caliber with minimum of two spare mags on belt (plus a couple of three more spares in dash of my three most carried EDC pistols) and a 5.56, 6.8 spc II or 22 Nosler in lock behind seat (have a six mag bandoleer for all three of these calibers 24/7/365 in truck). Also always have a couple or three of the 120 round boxes of M855 green tip rattling around since 5.56 is most likely truck rifle in lock and 6.8s or 22 Noslers are usually added on top of the 5.56 if going into varmint or deer territory.
The 22 Mag Tracker and brick of ammo is a lot of bang for the small amount of weight it adds. Like my Raging Hornet, Raging Bulls in 454 Casull, 223 Rem and looking for 218 Bee, 30 carbine and 480 Ruger to expand my Trackers and Raging series wheel gun collection are all very well built and handle a ton of abuse. My bug home 22 Mag Tracker has a 1x red dot but some day may park a scope with magnification on it. If a man wants a 22 Mag wheel gun I would recommend the Tracker and if has the extra cash go for the dual cylinder option to plink with LRs.
Luckily I jumped into the Raging Bull/Hornet/Thirty early but didn't jump on the 41 Mag, 44 Mag Hunters early enough and have seen a price jump. I would like a second Raging Hornet to run one with glass and one open sights but like many guns have to learn to live without unless luck strikes and find one cheap. Would buy another Tracker or even another pair if found them cheap enough to configure each for different applications. Actually shot coyote while driving through town in one of our "upscale neighborhoods" as watched it run from woods and grabbed one of two little yip dogs lady was walking. She was pulling on leash, coyote was holding onto rear leg of dog and I shut him down with a Hornady 22 Mag Critical Defense. Lady was stunned, when remembered I was in city limits, had just shot a coyote less than ten feet from a human stomped on skinny pedal and left the area while older lady was still in shock worrying about her injured dog and not me or my tag number.
A good 22 Mag handgun is a handy thing. Purchased one of the first Grendel P30 22 Mag repeaters when they first came out as an ultra hide "bar pistol" as felt 30 rounds of 22 Mag in pistol and one spare mag was about fifty zombies hurt and not as spry to fight if the room went loopy. Still have it but replaced it's mission with the fluted chamber Keltech P30 which is reliable out of the box rather than working to make the Grendel reliable. My Keltech P30 with two spare mags in back pocket is 90 rounds of 22 Mag badness, not a "manstopper" but those that don't decease and desist after first round almost bet second round will have them hurting enough to not want a third round.
I need another 10/22 and bolt rifle in 22 Mag as really packs a lot of punch for weight size of ammo load-out. Can carry a 500 round brick (five pounds) of ammo for less than weight than six AR 15 loaded magazines (6.5 pounds).
The 22 Mag Tracker and brick of ammo is a lot of bang for the small amount of weight it adds. Like my Raging Hornet, Raging Bulls in 454 Casull, 223 Rem and looking for 218 Bee, 30 carbine and 480 Ruger to expand my Trackers and Raging series wheel gun collection are all very well built and handle a ton of abuse. My bug home 22 Mag Tracker has a 1x red dot but some day may park a scope with magnification on it. If a man wants a 22 Mag wheel gun I would recommend the Tracker and if has the extra cash go for the dual cylinder option to plink with LRs.
Luckily I jumped into the Raging Bull/Hornet/Thirty early but didn't jump on the 41 Mag, 44 Mag Hunters early enough and have seen a price jump. I would like a second Raging Hornet to run one with glass and one open sights but like many guns have to learn to live without unless luck strikes and find one cheap. Would buy another Tracker or even another pair if found them cheap enough to configure each for different applications. Actually shot coyote while driving through town in one of our "upscale neighborhoods" as watched it run from woods and grabbed one of two little yip dogs lady was walking. She was pulling on leash, coyote was holding onto rear leg of dog and I shut him down with a Hornady 22 Mag Critical Defense. Lady was stunned, when remembered I was in city limits, had just shot a coyote less than ten feet from a human stomped on skinny pedal and left the area while older lady was still in shock worrying about her injured dog and not me or my tag number.
A good 22 Mag handgun is a handy thing. Purchased one of the first Grendel P30 22 Mag repeaters when they first came out as an ultra hide "bar pistol" as felt 30 rounds of 22 Mag in pistol and one spare mag was about fifty zombies hurt and not as spry to fight if the room went loopy. Still have it but replaced it's mission with the fluted chamber Keltech P30 which is reliable out of the box rather than working to make the Grendel reliable. My Keltech P30 with two spare mags in back pocket is 90 rounds of 22 Mag badness, not a "manstopper" but those that don't decease and desist after first round almost bet second round will have them hurting enough to not want a third round.
I need another 10/22 and bolt rifle in 22 Mag as really packs a lot of punch for weight size of ammo load-out. Can carry a 500 round brick (five pounds) of ammo for less than weight than six AR 15 loaded magazines (6.5 pounds).