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DEAL ALERT - pulldown rifle powder

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I've bought an loaded a lot of WC844 which is supposed to be the same as H335...
The thing that I wonder about is why did the "pull down" some 2,240 rounds of ammunition per eight pounds of Powder, and how many thousands were dismantled to get the (unknown number) of Jugs to sell?
What about the Brass? Primers? Projectiles?
I'm tempted to buy and the questions have really nothing to do with my decision (if we were to find out som-ting-wong) just that sans a War here, I've got more powder than I can use in a lifetime.
 

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This stuff:

Start with 41 grains and your 153-grain bullet.

Probably gonna arrive at the pressure you ultimately want somewhere between 43 and 44 grains.

You said SERVICE RIFLE. So the numbers I stated assume M14 magazine length cartridge dimension.
I've used 43gr. of WC844 in my 7.62/.308 loads for years: never fails.
The WC846 seems better for Garands using BL-C2 Data.
 

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I've bought an loaded a lot of WC844 which is supposed to be the same as H335...
The thing that I wonder about is why did the "pull down"

Could be anything.

Ammo gets pulled down because the finished product doesn't meet some spec.

Could be the depth of the extractor groove, variation on bullet length, etc.

Some contracts require "destruction" if there is any sort of error in the run. Other times, the loaded ammo can be sold as "seconds."
 

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Kicking around in my head if I want some of the 735. I have 8 of TAC and 8 of W846. It ain't getting cheaper though.
I have 24 pounds of TAC and it is not enough to fill the cases I have prepped, primed and bullets already weight sorted. Need four or five pounds to finish that run but will need another 16 pounds to do the cases am prepping to load behind that batch. Would worry that I am loading too much but have seen days where two thousand rifle cases hit the ground between morning and afternoon, when at work normally shoot 300 to 500 rounds per week of mixed centerfire handgun, 22 LR rifle and 7.62×39 which is limit of by bullet traps. When burning 1,200 to 2,000 rounds per month just on "breaks" at work then stopping at rifle range whenever drive anywhere close it can just disappear at amazing rates.
 

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I'm still working on loading up some AA Data2200 powder that I picked up around 99-2000. I don't remember where it came from but it was a overrun batch that was 68 bucks for a 8 pound keg and I picked up 16 pounds.

I'm down to around 7 pounds left, it's worked great for 223 loads.
 

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I have three eight pound jugs of TAC sitting on bench but math says it's not enough to fill cases prepped. Have two projects on hold till get a little more powder so can do the entire run in a single shot and not wait for powder to ship to finish out last few rounds. Going to go to looking in boxes as seem to remember buying several one pound bottles of TAC from vendor who was selling them cheap on clearance but not seeing any singles in my powder locker.
 

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Damn you W.E.G. 16 lbs inbound. It was $430 with shipping and hazmat, but
H335 woulda been $650 +ship and hazmat from hodgdon.

You think I can use my M193 load of 26 gr H335 or should I tone it down to start? I got really good accuracy out of a slightly softer H335 load... but I like speed!!!
 
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If all you’re doing is ringing steel, or punching paper, ain’t no sense in blowing primers.

I’ve got a can of 62’s

I figger probably 23.0 grains this stuff should send ‘em good.
 

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My experience with surplus powders is to buy a lot, figure out a load, and then load a lot. I have a 10,000 round batch of 223 coming up, so I ordered five jugs. One hazmat fee, $70 to ship. Tax and everything else, it was just a hair over 1000 to the door. That’s $25 a pound. I will figure out what it loads like, and stuff it into range pick up brass with pull down 55 grain projectiles. It will be great training and range play ammo. Probably perfectly suitable for close range defensive stuff as well.

With today’s prices, this is the equivalent to finding an $80 dollar jug of 844 or 846 at knob Creek 15 years ago.
 

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Anybody ever use TAC in 30.06? If so, what was your charge for 150gr ball? TAC is still available at this one big LGS I visit monthly. $38 for a 1lb can.
Larry
 

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Anybody ever use TAC in 30.06? If so, what was your charge for 150gr ball? TAC is still available at this one big LGS I visit monthly. $38 for a 1lb can.
Larry
47.0 grains of TAC

... or literally ANY medium-burning rifle powder works great with a 150 and the Garand.

Seriously, anything from #113 to #156
47.0 grains

1 -powder burn rate chart.jpg
 
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