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They still had it yesterday so I went ahead and picked it up. Going to shoot it next week with the factory grips, then probably make new ones (my dad used to say I only bought guns to make new grips for them :D )

Dry firing I like the trigger a lot, looking forward to shooting it.
 

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Mine basically does that, though I wouldn't call it a lot of creep compared to some I've shot, more like moderate creep. For some reason it doesn't bother me in this case, we'll see if I change my mind after live firing.
 

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I tamed the size a bit.
Shadow 2 extended slide and mag releases.
Single action only with a flat trigger.
Thin aluminum grips.

Was going up cut up under the trigger guard it it felt slightly larger than a shadow 2 at this point.


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I tamed the size a bit.
Shadow 2 extended slide and mag releases.
Single action only with a flat trigger.
Thin aluminum grips.

Was going up cut up under the trigger guard it it felt slightly larger than a shadow 2 at this point.


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Looks like a different barrel bushing being used there. 1911 style?
The original on my gun threaded into the front of the slide and looked like it had been probably hand selected because it had a single relief cut to accept the recoil spring plug. The cut had to time up properly for the assembly to fit properly, which was not a problem for the user but probably annoyed the production guys.

When CZ replaced my barrel, they returned the gun with an updated bushing that has several cut-outs.
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CZ's are like FAL's. They keep multiplying in my gun safe. Started off with a 75BC Compact, then a full frame 75, an SP01, and now a P09 with optics and Omega trigger showed up. And that ain't counting the CZ rifles and shotguns. My 75BD Compact is my daily carry, but the SP01 might get promoted since the P09 showed up.

Cajun Gun works is the place to shop for pieces parts and upgrades. Their staff is very good and helping you choose what you need for what want the pistol will be used for. And if you aren't mechanically inclined, they can do the work for you. Only bad thing about that is the long wait list - 10-20 weeks before you get a work order last time I checked.
You got that right. A few guys on here worked on me literally for years to try CZ. I did and felt like a fool. I have a safe with a ton of money tied up in pistols that’ll never be used again.
like you, I fist got my 75D (pre PCR) Compact, then two custom nickel plated full size 75s for hip jewelry, then a Shadow 2, followed by the 97 and now a P01.
My wife has a Scorpion and I grabbed a Bren.
The only one I don’t like is the 97. I’m sure I can tune it, but do I want to? I have several decent 1911s and the couple extra rounds in the Mag don’t mean much to me.
I REALLY want a new Czechmate, but again, I have the Shadow, so why? I can think of a million places I can park 3K+. Their 1911-75 hybrids interest me as well. Maybe a better mousetrap?
And I consider the 75 to be the ultimate perfected BHP. Or, the perfection of John Moses Browning’s vision. I can’t see how you can make it any better.
I haven’t found a shooter yet who‘s tried my Compact and disliked it. Most run right out and buy one. That’s a pretty good track record. A Commander size pistol with twice the capacity.
 

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I tamed the size a bit.
Shadow 2 extended slide and mag releases.
Single action only with a flat trigger.
Thin aluminum grips.

Was going up cut up under the trigger guard it it felt slightly larger than a shadow 2 at this point.


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Now that’s interesting.
I was thinking of selling my 97, but maybe I need to look into something similar to what you did there.
CZ talks a lot about their ergos and how they use actual average male human hands to shape the ergos on the 75s. They missed the mark a bit on the 97. I’ll try the thin wood. But I need to tame that recoil.. It’s damn unpleasant. I sound like a wuss, but it hits hard enough I wonder if it’s going to break something.
Do CZ Custom or CGW offer a full length guide rod for the 97?
 
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You got that right. A few guys on here worked on me literally for years to try CZ. I did and felt like a fool. I have a safe with a ton of money tied up in pistols that’ll never be used again.
dont feel bad you are not the first to wear blinders on things/ideas and wont be the last. Its called being "HUMAN".

everyone has their own prejudices and ideas on things. Some are fan boys of whatever and will forever be until they are dead.

like you, I fist got my 75D (pre PCR) Compact, then two custom nickel plated full size 75s for hip jewelry, then a Shadow 2, followed by the 97 and now a P01.
My wife has a Scorpion and I grabbed a Bren.
Once i got my 85, i was hooked and it felt just "right" in my hands. I also had S&W 629 and it was a hoot to shoot, but as far as fit to my hands, not so, but i can adapt just like other guns that arent perfect for my hands.

The only one I don’t like is the 97. I’m sure I can tune it, but do I want to? I have several decent 1911s and the couple extra rounds in the Mag don’t mean much to me.
I REALLY want a new Czechmate, but again, I have the Shadow, so why? I can think of a million places I can park 3K+. Their 1911-75 hybrids interest me as well.
Maybe you will figure out one day, do what you want - within reason. Toys are just that. I try to use the KISS principle in my life. but if you like to go down that rabbit hole on things like this, its your life.

Maybe a better mousetrap?
And I consider the 75 to be the ultimate perfected BHP. Or, the perfection of John Moses Browning’s vision. I can’t see how you can make it any better.
I haven’t found a shooter yet who‘s tried my Compact and disliked it. Most run right out and buy one. That’s a pretty good track record. A Commander size pistol with twice the capacity.
everyone has their own idea on what they want and will spend their money on. Theres a saying...."its the warrior that wields the weapon" Some people think if they buy uber/accurate/comp pistol, they will become the kick butt accurate shooter. Not so. its still the person behind the trigger that can make or break that gun. I had taken noob shooters out and with some of my guns, no problems. Then they pickup some gun and start having issues with jambs. One guy starting having FTF and i traced his problem to limp wristing. Some guy at one of the local ranges was shooting his nice Sig next to me. But couldn't hit much at 20 feet. He looked at my targets and was impress even though im mediocre. I let him try my CZs and other toys, but his targets weren't any better with my guns. So i tried his Sig and did better than he did. It was fairly obvious that he needed more practice and nothing was needed to be said.

you obvious read about some other designers/makers and it appears you idolize them and their work. great i do too. but just keep in mind that you never know who else is out there that may make something better. I hope with the lesson you may have learned about the CZ, you may keep your options open.

also, at one time, CZ was considered "commie" and not many people would be caught with a "commie" gun or "jap" car for that matter. Times have changed and some peoples attitude too. Another good friend that shoots, doesnt believe in any gun without a 4 & 5 in the caliber. His paws are too large for my CZs and other guns, but he loves his 1911s. the 1911s work for him and he likes them. I dont need to change his mind but offered to let him try what i had.

you may find that you are looking at things through "your" eyes and as such its "your" opinion/(limited?) experience. Spend some time with others shooting and you will find that there isnt any 1 solution for everyone. That goes for CZs too.

When i got into guns i didn't know anything and thanks to my good friend that let me shoot his BHP and 1911 i was hooked. But the BHP felt like a 2x2 in my hands, the 1911 was nice. i had read that shooting a 1911 was liked being Kicked by a mule? Well, i can gladly say i never been kicked by a mule, but i found it manageable. The idea is to not try to restrict the recoil, but to go with the flow. Ever see Linbaugh's daughter handle the 500 Linebaugh? its going with the flow not trying to restrict it.

there are way more toys out there to try if you want and see what works for you. I dont worry about such things since i like to try all thats out there and then makeup my mind. Reading about someone review is great but i look and buy for my own reasons.
 

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I carried an ancient Inglis built BHP for years. I learned on six guns and BHPs, so it was an east leap once in civilian life.
Once I realized that it was an antique and more of a curio than a defensive weapon, I tried a 226. Big and blocky and cid nothing for me. Next came an HK P7, both in single and double stack. Ugly pistols, but they function flawlessly. Safe, too. But like a Glock, it felt I was squeezing a marshmallow connected to a rubber band.
Then came the 1911s. I love those things. Cold steel. They fit well, feel right, and hit hard. I love them. But capacity?
Then a trusty Model 19 with 6” barrel. Need I say any more? A classic and a nice shooter. But capacity again….
Then the 75 Compact. Boom, a light goes on. Shoulda listened years and 10s of thousands of dollars sooner. 😂
I’ve heard it said that CZ was a “Commie Gun”. I laugh at that. That old company gave us the original Bren Gun. They’ve always built good equipment, and they sure weren’t Commie by choice.
I’m bound and determined to tame my 97.
My attraction to, and will to stick to the Browning template has nothing to do with worshiping the man himself. It has everything to do with being trained to carry and operate a pistol a certain way. Single action automatics are carried cocked and locked. I can live with a double action automatic, but I need an actual exposed hammer and a real steel gun. That’s me. No changing me there. Half a century of training and conditioning has burned into my soul that when the right hand is coming up, the thumb is swiping the safety off. When the pistol reaches level, it’s ready to go. Changing or learning something new now will only screw me up. So there isn’t Glock #1 in our household.
 

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Got my CZ75B at CGW now for the pro package, looking forward to getting it back

Thinking of selling off my other 9mms and replacing them with CZs as well, the ergos just fit
Interested to hear what you think of the CGW Pro Package. I have the same pistol and am this close to getting it.
 

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Interested to hear what you think of the CGW Pro Package. I have the same pistol and am this close to getting it.
I‘ve got exactly the same thing as a pro package on my 75B Compact, except I installed it myself. I expect they can do an even better job, but mine is fvcking flawless.
A Commander sized pistol with 14 round capacity and a perfect positive reset. What’s not to love. I’ll let them do my next one, probably just buy the entire thing, ready to go. Quicker and cheaper.
 

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Interested to hear what you think of the CGW Pro Package. I have the same pistol and am this close to getting it.
After about 120rounds I’m a fan

Had then up the SA trigger pull for carry…and yes they called once to confirm my request and talk about a few parts & then called again after initial install to discuss the end result …it was breaking at a tad over 2lbs so now closer to 4

dead accurate, didn’t do the bushing upgrade tho as I wanted less of a target gat . Nice trigger ,no creep, nice reset

not cheap for them to do the work but very happy
 

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I‘ve got exactly the same thing as a pro package on my 75B Compact, except I installed it myself. I expect they can do an even better job, but mine is fvcking flawless.
A Commander sized pistol with 14 round capacity and a perfect positive reset. What’s not to love. I’ll let them do my next one, probably just buy the entire thing, ready to go. Quicker and cheaper.
So how hard was installing the Pro Package? I watched the tutorial they have linked to the Pro Package. Seems like the guy did a fair bit more than just replace the parts. Do they include instructions? I've done the Ruger MK2 trigger and that was easy.
 

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So how hard was installing the Pro Package? I watched the tutorial they have linked to the Pro Package. Seems like the guy did a fair bit more than just replace the parts. Do they include instructions? I've done the Ruger MK2 trigger and that was easy.
I just installed the springs and polished the hammer, trigger and sear group.
I had a good friend work with me because I’m a simple minded fool, but after a bit of trial and error, it took an entire afternoon with time off for drinking.
 

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Been reading this thread and i always want to try the 97 but i am a lefty . I can overcome most issues but wish it had an ambi safety and mag release option-but hell i just use my trigger finger to release mags and slide on my glocks.

One thing, found out there was(?) a decocker model-97BD- Anyone know if the internals can be swapped out to a decocker version? Maybe I should call CGW and ask them?Maybe they have the internals from a customer gun after a change. I prefer hammer down and DA for carry. Heck I am happy with just a decocker and no safety. i am a glock owner after all, my finger is the safety.
 

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This one is serial A46XX with the factory test target dated 1.29.99...picked it up NIB in 2009. Swapped the recoil spring for a Wolff 16lb, a Wolff XP firing pin spring, and a stainless steel short recoil rod. The fit and finish is flawless. The 2017 all steel Tanfoglio in 10mm is nearly identical in dimension and weight. If you have the means, I highly recommend either weapon.

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WELLLLL, this morning I claimed a CZ97B on another forum for $825(they seem to hover 800-1100 here in Kommiefornia)and then the guy cancelled,I posted kind of 'okaaaayyy whatever...' post and then he PM'd me about 1 on consignment at a store for 650. I managed to call ,ask for them to hold it for me,went down in rush our crap traffic,looked at it for like 2 min,guy asked 'are we doin this? 'I said HELL YEA...so now I have to wait 10MFKN days to go pick up Baby... I was secretly hoping it was a 'BD' model.....but hey saved at least 150(will go for more mags) and looks basically new,even has a small barcode sticker on top of the slide that looks like factory applied for scanning(?)

I forgot to take pics(dumbass) but it has a matte finish but does not look like paint,dark wood grips,black finished barrel, nice smooth finish,no cast lines,slide is butter ,controls light AND I can manipulate slide release,safety and mag release all with trigger finger-left handed- I have pretty damn small hands for a guy but seems to fit my hand great. SO I feel I will be very happy. I will want to put on some tritium sights for bump in the night stuff since no rail.... but for some reason I am not a big light on pistol fan....
 

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Update....🤦‍♂️ just found out that cz has stopped making the cz97b ...buuut say also that they continue to make(?) an old version strictly for CA?
So since not sure what to believe aaaand another has shown up for 650 in exc condition...I'm buying it also🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️so i will have 2... ;) (y) What is WRONG with me!:unsure:-aside from cz75s,Po1s,etc being more pricey than the 97b's.
 
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That's odd, last I heard they were were working on a 10mm version.
Europeans don't really like 45 acp wouldn't be the first time they stopped making the 97.
 

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heard of and seen a 10mm conversion done on at least 1. think CGW did it??? Supposedly the 97b was made strictly for the US market in the 90's or so I have heard and read. The original 10mm load would be a hot number but guess they killed it due to beating up guns too much?? Never was all up on the 10mm info. The STAR Megastar was originally designed to handle it, reason for that handgun being a big beast. Would still like to find one of those.
 

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Cz custom shop i know did at least a few 10mm 97s.
Some of the tangfolio 10mms had issues with cracking on full power loads, but they cz75 based, not sure how much they share with the 97.
I like my 97, but with the blued finish and walnut grips it's too pretty to take out and shoot very often. Polymer guns get abused with no remorse.
 

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I’m gonna put my 97B on the MP here, and just start fresh with a duded up hot rodded Cajun version. I don’t have enough time in my life to fvck with it. It’s easily fvckable as they say, but I’m to bloody busy and bench time is nonexistent right now.
It shoots well enough, but beats my hand to shit and I gotta slim down those factory grips.
 

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Cz custom shop i know did at least a few 10mm 97s.
Some of the tangfolio 10mms had issues with cracking on full power loads, but they cz75 based, not sure how much they share with the 97.
I like my 97, but with the blued finish and walnut grips it's too pretty to take out and shoot very often. Polymer guns get abused with no remorse.
yeah I keep thinking there’s pa real gem hiding in there. I just haven’t been able to find it yet. Too in love with my 75s and if I needs a 45, I’ve got a bunch of 1911s with each one hollering PICK ME!
 

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Guess i am just a DA guy. I would like to try a 45acp but DA pistols are not too common . Guess the most common are sigs. What i find interesting is that the 97b is not super popular,guess it is the size? Yet double stack 1911s seem pretty popular)?)
I also want more than 7,8rds.
Well i pick up 1 on sunday and go buy the other one on sunday.
Guess the 1st range trip will decide if i love and keep at least one. Feeling good in the hand does not mean feels good when shooting.
 

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I picked a 97BD up on impulse while trying to find a P220 Legion. What intrigued me was that it was slimmer than my 1911’s, but with a 10 round capacity. Out of the box, the trigger was just marginal, but after a few evenings of snap caps it turned into a fantastic trigger. By far the best DA/SA trigger I own. Fast shooting, with very mild recoil. For something that was bought on impulse, it actually became one of my primary carry guns. I actually haven’t carried a full size 1911 since.

 
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