A bridge too far

[yellowhand]

Not that campaign but the whole war - YH you can be silly!

Your total military deaths, was only 382,700 for the entire WAR!

Your total dead, military and civilian was 449,800 !

World War 2 Casualties | World War 2 Facts

World War 2 was the bloodiest conflict in human history. There were more than 60 million World War 2 casualties resulting in death which at the time was more than 2.5% of the overall world population. The war was notable for the Nazi-sponsored genocide of the Jewish peoples resulting in more...

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13,226 was in Market Garden alone.

Casualties of Operation Market Garden. | WW2 Gravestone

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If anyone told you, taught you, Great Britain, which included all your commonwealth countries, lost 5,000,000 dead
military and civilian, in WWII,,,,I'd like to see the sources.

 

[yellowhand]

World War 2 Total Deaths

COUNTRY	CASUALTIES
Soviet Union	26,600,000​
China	15,000,000​
Germany	7,728,000​
Poland	5,700,000​
Japan	2,700,000​
India	2,087,000​
Yugoslavia	1,027,000​
Rumania	833,000​
Hungary	580,000​
France	567,600​
Greece	560,000​
Italy	456,000​
Great Britain	449,800​
United States	418,500​
Czechoslovakia	345,000​
Netherlands	301,000​
Austria	123,700​
Finland	97,000​
Belgium	86,100​
Canada	45,300​
Australia	40,500​
Bulgaria	25,000​
New Zealand	11,900​
South Africa	11,900​
Norway	9,500​
Spain	4,500​
Denmark	3,200​
TOTAL:​	65,811,500​

 

[yellowhand]

Not that campaign but the whole war - YH you can be silly!

Anyway, where are your sources for this 5 million war dead with Great Britain in WWII???

 

[alphadog58]

When I served in GB in '74-'76, I lived in a little village off post. My next door neighbor was a WW II vet. Not many men of that age group around from my meager observations. That old boy said that American beer was crap, but he never turned down a free cold Bud...
Larry

 

[yellowhand]

My old man was an adjunct to Montgomery, he was with him from North Africa, and the rest of the war - he always said about market garden, that it was the Americans turn, and they were let loose - at that time the Brits had lost more than 5 million soldiers - America hadn't! Read into that as you like! Sure it's anecdotal, he was there, I wasn't.......... for what it's worth!

Did he also tell you, how the British won the battle of Singapore?

Just curious, since they had lost 5 million dead soldiers and felt that their main ally at the time, their biggest ally, that had fed the British people, armed the British people, but had not quiet died in great enough numbers, were given the Market Garden mission to up their death tallies?

Just silly me LOL

Btw,,anyone one else reading this,,,,my dad, four uncles, were station in England during the war, Army Air Corps, flying combat missions, 2 remained in Europe after the war, dead, and everything I ever heard from the survivors, were how damned nice the English people were to them, how they appreciated them.

I spent about 9 months in England, couple of TDY trips, training missions/ attending schools/cross trainings, and again, the English people could not have been nicer.

This snaky horseshit presented here above, is not normal for Brits, at least not in my experiences.

The British soldiers are some of the finest in the world, but with damned little to work with, since the country went near full on socialist decades ago.
There are not that many of them in uniform, but, if ever called upon, they would stand your flanks and you'd need not worry about them buckling.

The largest capitulation in British history: The Fall of Singapore

Eighty years on from the great defeat.

www.forces.net

 

[alphadog58]

Dad caught yellow fever in N Africa in 1943 and spent four months recovering in a hospital in England. Mom told me that he was sweet on an English nurse and wanted to bring her home. After convalescence, Dad got sent to Europe and finished out the war there. He passed when I was 11 so I never got to know him well. I visit his grave in our hometown every Memorial Day. Both of our names are on the granite war memorial on the Town Hall front yard.
Larry

 

[NFADLR]

A surrender?

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[brownknees]

I wasn't there I'm too young. But I did do 2 Nijmegen marches while I was "in".
The International Four Day Marches Nijmegen (Dutch: Internationale Vierdaagse Afstandsmarsen Nijmegen, pronounced [ˈɪntərnɑ(t)ɕoːˌnaːlə ˈviːrˌdaːxsə ˈʔɑfstɑntsˌmɑrsə ˈnɛimeːɣə]) is the largest and oldest military sporting event in the world, with tens of thousands of participants from across the worlds militaries. It is organised every year in Nijmegen, Netherlands in mid-July as a means of promoting sport, exercise and a display of military professionalism. Military competitors will pack march 40km in uniform carrying at least 10kg of dead weight.

 

[Pluribus]

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One of the best scenes in the movie, despite all the other assertions. I do wonder if it actually happened though. If so, big stones for them.

 

[tac-40]

Montgomery, to this this uneducated guy who read everthing available on WWI and WWII as a young man, appeared to have planned his major battles with the smallest details noted and a specific timeline for event to happen. The attacks almost always followed preliminary attacks designed to weaken and draw German forces away from the point of attack. Additionally, he often used non-British troops to break through the front to allow his troops to rush in and make the newsworthy advances.

Caen was a foreshadowing of what happens to his plans when he didn't unlimited resources to achieve his stated goals and timelines. It is said the Falaise Gap failed to capture significant german troops was his demand for gas and supplies to be limited for Patton because Patton had the news spotlight on him. Monty also caused several politically sensitive incidents by besmirching American Military leader, actually inferring that several were cowards or incompetent.

 

[brownknees]

One of the best scenes in the movie, despite all the other assertions. I do wonder if it actually happened though. If so, big stones for them.

Oh it really happened. Its well documented.

 

[RON K.]

You guys might like 2023 "The Last Rifleman" A GOOD MOVIE and true story..

MANY LIKE THE TRUTH.

 

[Falcon]

I visited the Imperial War Museum in Londan years ago and they had quite a large exhibit on Operation Market Garden.

https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/second-world-war/north-west-europe/arnhem

 

[K. Funk]

I was in Arnhem 2 years ago and we walked the route of 3rd Para into Arnhem (just into town, not the whole 8 miles). This is the same view of the bridge as they saw as they approached. Kind of gave me a chill.

krf

 

[K. Funk]

Col. Frost's fox horn on display at the Hartenstein Airborne Museum in Oosterbeek...

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