7 Ways To Stay Alive in a Post-Collapse Society

[Black Blade]

7 Ways To Stay Alive in a Post-Collapse Society

As is extensively detailed in The Prepper’s Blueprint: How To Survive Any Disaster, life will definitely be different when the SHTF. You will not be able to rely on the law to protect you; however, you will also not be prosecuted under the law for some superficial or superfluous reason: your life and your family’s lives take precedence. That being said, what do you do? How do you handle these attackers…people that are intent on taking you down and taking what you have? Let’s outline some basics that you can use post-SHTF.

Continued: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...beret-7-ways-stay-alive-post-collapse-society

 

[Bawana jim]

I was reading the article a couple of days ago, it's on many sites now. Travel is going to be the killer, I don't look forward to it.

 

[gaijinsamurai]

I was reading the article a couple of days ago, it's on many sites now. Travel is going to be the killer, I don't look forward to it.

Agree. My present location is far from ideal (Beaverton, Oregon), but bugging out is really not an option, so I will bug in as long as possible.

 

[Bawana jim]

Agree. My present location is far from ideal (Beaverton, Oregon), but bugging out is really not an option, so I will bug in as long as possible.

If I lived there I would plan to get to the Columbia River and float out of danger but there are so many people up there you are right in my opinion to wait it out. Ugly times would push a lot of folks your way.

I have folks I trust with my life that live along the way on a bug out but getting there would be really difficult.

 

[rowjimmy]

I usually like JJ's stuff but I thought this column was weak. His insistance that you need to carry a fixed blade AND folder should, at the very least, be qualified with as to why. And give me an AR ANY DAY over a Mossberg 500.

This seemed like a really poor effort on his part compared to other articles he's written.

 

[sniperdoc]

"Won't be prosecuted"?
Tell that to the Christians in the former Yugoslavia!
There will always be another government. It may take a few years, but there will be vigorous prosecutions of those who aren't in favor or the good grace of the rulers.

 

[J. Armstrong]

I usually like JJ's stuff but I thought this column was weak. His insistance that you need to carry a fixed blade AND folder should, at the very least, be qualified with as to why. And give me an AR ANY DAY over a Mossberg 500.

This seemed like a really poor effort on his part compared to other articles he's written.

And I would offer that a Gerber Mk II is a poor choice, most especially if the user is not VERY proficient at knife fighting - and if it comes to that, you've already screwed up.

 

[Abominog]

The key to survival is being on a cruising yacht in Vanuatu with a dentist and plenty of antibiotics aboard. Leave the rice and MREs at home.

 

[J. Armstrong]

The key to survival is being on a cruising yacht in Vanuatu with a dentist and plenty of antibiotics aboard. Leave the rice and MREs at home.

And a Ma Deuce for the pirates :biggrin:

 

[gaijinsamurai]

.... And give me an AR ANY DAY over a Mossberg 500. ....

And I would offer that a Gerber Mk II is a poor choice, most especially if the user is not VERY proficient at knife fighting - and if it comes to that, you've already screwed up.

I'll take an AR, AK, FAL, or even a lever action rifle over a Mossberg 500 (and I like my Mossberg 500!), and I'd take a K-bar or Air Force survival knife over a Gerber MKII, even if the Gerber is a beautiful blade.

 

[tdb59]

7 Ways To Stay Alive in a Post-Collapse Society


Continued: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...beret-7-ways-stay-alive-post-collapse-society

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[Bawana jim]

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You may be right, I bet some of those bloggers figure it out they are telling people how to survive that they really don't want to survive.

 

[sniperdoc]

Ultimate survival firearm is HANDS DOWN the Flintlock Musket/Shotgun. It may not be "tacticool", but you can make your own powder, shoot anything from round balls to shot to broken glass to nails to rocks, and all you need to set it off is something that sparks; in a pinch, you can use a flaming twig!
I can see the wisdom of a shotgun; you can use birdshot, buckshot, or slugs. In reality, you will use weapons to kill animals far more often than people. Versatility is where a shotgun shines.
Knives are,and will be in a SHTF scenario, first and foremost, tools.
When I was on Active Duty, I carried many knives. Everything from a Ka-Bar to a tiny "Last Ditch" folder. The only one I ever used was a Victorinox Ranger Swiss Army Knife.

 

[yellowhand]

Hide from, run away from all trouble, hide from near all human contact, well as much as possible for 60 or 90 days, then the world will become a very quiet place.

Staying away from other people will prevent 90% of any issues coming along that will get you harmed or killed?????

The Gerber Mk 1 works extremely well for its intended purpose.:wink:

 

[Bawana jim]

I think in those times it will be your wits that keep you alive just as much as a gun. Learning how to stay out of gun battle will take a heavy price. Learning what not to wear so you don't look like a threat. Heavily armed man that looks like an operator going into my neighborhood is going to get a reception.

Better to travel unseen and not looking like a cash cow to be killed for what you have.

 

[Abominog]

Hide from, run away from all trouble, hide from near all human contact, well as much as possible for 60 or 90 days, then the world will become a very quiet place.

Staying away from other people will prevent 90% of any issues coming along that will get you harmed or killed?????

The Gerber Mk 1 works extremely well for its intended purpose.:wink:

Does the Sorry Gulch count?

 

[brunop]

Better to travel unseen and not looking like a cash cow to be killed for what you have.

QFT

 

[J. Armstrong]

I think in those times it will be your wits that keep you alive just as much as a gun. Learning how to stay out of gun battle will take a heavy price. Learning what not to wear so you don't look like a threat. Heavily armed man that looks like an operator going into my neighborhood is going to get a reception.

Better to travel unseen and not looking like a cash cow to be killed for what you have.

I'm with YH, I'm going to avoid travel at all - or at least as much as possible.

If you ain't there, you ain't a target.

I agree the Mk II is fine for its intended purpose, but there are better, more versatile blades that will work just as well as the Mk II AND do a whole bunch of things the Gerber won't. That said, there's a Mk II in the "extras" stash.........

 

[yellowhand]

Does the Sorry Gulch count?

That place closed down many years ago, not sure what is in there now, but it has a green frog flag ??????:whistling: flying outside it, so its appears to have lost its past glory as a bloody bucket.

No more Harley's outside it.
I'll drive by and see what they put in there, got me curious now.:biggrin:

And yes, old places like that, should be avoided for troubled times or even in normal times.:rofl:

 

[yellowhand]

I'm with YH, I'm going to avoid travel at all - or at least as much as possible.

If you ain't there, you ain't a target.

I agree the Mk II is fine for its intended purpose, but there are better, more versatile blades that will work just as well as the Mk II AND do a whole bunch of things the Gerber won't. That said, there's a Mk II in the "extras" stash.........

People when thinking about all this seem to forget, even a small injury or wound can be fatal if the hospitals or doc's offices are all shut down, so running away, hiding, becomes a perfect way to survive.
Might hurt some folks man hoods but the object/mission is to survive.

I've still got my original Mk1 from back in the day, still razor sharp, but my Jeep, trucks, packs, all carry old ass AK bayonets with a very sharp edge and the wire cutting scabbard.
Got them for 5 a throw way back when, good solid steel, takes an edge well, won't be upset, if it shows up missing or breaks.
I believe I got 25 of them @ the time.:facepalm:

 

[justashooter]

bullshit. entire article is bullshit.

post-world? everybody in walking distance ot the zombie-land of urban America is dead within weeks. people trying to escape in their "beamers" are dead even faster as soon asthey hit the hills. lots of anger out there in them thar hills, so if the rules are no longer the rules, people ain't gonna be nice to people that have been less than nice to them.

looking forward to it, in a way.
already in the hills.
one of them that ain't gonna be nice.

 

[tdb59]

I truly enjoyed how the author addresses the issues of real threats to survival.....




......clean water, sanitation, soap, cooking fuel....




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[Bawana jim]

I'm with YH, I'm going to avoid travel at all - or at least as much as possible.

If you ain't there, you ain't a target.

I agree the Mk II is fine for its intended purpose, but there are better, more versatile blades that will work just as well as the Mk II AND do a whole bunch of things the Gerber won't. That said, there's a Mk II in the "extras" stash.........

I am old and retired, it will be a bug out because I am forced to leave. Travel at that point becomes unavoidable. What you look like as you move makes you a target as a cash cow or not worth giving your position away for.

A good buck hunting knife will do all I need done.

Edited to add, long ago I was reading the mk1 had problems with its pot metal handle and the tang being too short in it. Using to pry broke them.

 

[yellowhand]

I truly enjoyed how the author addresses the issues of real threats to survival.....




......clean water, sanitation, soap, cooking fuel....




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And some form of rudimentary medical care.
The basics, or lack of them clean water, etc, will kill most people, not fancy rifles.
Add in heat and cold, will get many more.
Untrained people, will run away from gun fire, avoid areas where they could get shot.
Most folks will die from a lack of the basics.

 

[J. Armstrong]

I am old and retired, it will be a bug out because I am forced to leave. Travel at that point becomes unavoidable. What you look like as you move makes you a target as a cash cow or not worth giving your position away for.

A good buck hunting knife will do all I need done.

Edited to add, long ago I was reading the mk1 had problems with its pot metal handle and the tang being too short in it. Using to pry broke them.

Obviously, there may be a time when one is forced to move - no disrespect intended there, anyone could be forced into that situation.

My thought was that, barring a "forced march", I would just hunker down and try real hard to be invisible except perhaps to a select few local neighbors. Besides, I need my naps

Agreed about the Mk II. My belief is that one wants a substantial ( i.e. fairly thick ) single edged full tang knife. I guess 5" would be a bare minimum but I would prefer 7" or better. A good sized quality Bowie pattern seems to me to be ideal. Let's face it, the knife is far more likely to get used for utilitarian purposes, and would still be more than adequate for defense use. And I have minimum knife defense skillz, I need to keep the problems further away :biggrin: