Here's a great one, what's a VietNam Montagnard Crossbow worth ?

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riversidesports
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Here's a great one, what's a VietNam Montagnard Crossbow worth ?

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Going through crap, found this one from late Uncle's estate
extremely nice shape, frayed string but intact
lightly chip carved decoration

Showed it off to local elder Lao folks who were quite taken by it
no darts/bolts though

Have a couple bring back NVA belts with the big Star buckle too from local Vets

no clue how to post pix here
happy to send some to anyone willing to post them up on the board

just neat old shit
real deal
oldster Lao elder remembered them as a youngster
no clue on valuation

and yeah this kind of crap is far more rare than some silly SKS even with DD papers

like to hear some ideas
not seen a real one for decades really
go ahead and insult me, decided to lay off my usual caustic retorts so have at it...LOL

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I'd be interested in it if its real

riversidesports
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MACV wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:04 am
I'd be interested in it if its real
Oh its the real thing
no bullshit
of course there were no DDs on these things

like I said I'm pleased to send pix to anyone who will post them here

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They sell for a hundred bucks or so on ebay. They don’t appear to be rare in any way and were probably a souvenir type thing that the troops could buy in a street market.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R ... w&_sacat=0

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Silly sks with papers huh? Turn the computer off, go outside, and get some sun man. The internet it turning your brain to mush.

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def90 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:58 am
They sell for a hundred bucks or so on ebay. They don’t appear to be rare in any way and were probably a souvenir type thing that the troops could buy in a street market.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R ... w&_sacat=0
thats all reproduction crap from China
not even close to what the tribal bows were in form, much less trigger function

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riversidesports wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:36 pm
def90 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:58 am
They sell for a hundred bucks or so on ebay. They don’t appear to be rare in any way and were probably a souvenir type thing that the troops could buy in a street market.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R ... w&_sacat=0
thats all reproduction crap from China
not even close to what the tribal bows were in form, much less trigger function
Yet if you do a search on google there are other types shown for sale as well, all have the same story that they were all brought back by some vet that was special forces.

Here is a site that discusses them and that they were sold as souveneirs.

http://quanonline.com/military/military ... ossbow.php

They are the equivalency of the Afghan war rug bring backs.

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MURKY1911 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:29 pm
Silly sks with papers huh? Turn the computer off, go outside, and get some sun man. The internet it turning your brain to mush.
LOL

most of the SKS bringbacks never even saw combat
caches were hauled into Saigon and openly sold/swapped
basically new guns
I bought a mess of those in the 70s
most vets returning to the upper midwest tended to bring guns home

Coastal tards really didnt
but whatever floats your boat buddy
like I said, I am not going to argue...particularly with children...LOL

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def90 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:45 pm
riversidesports wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:36 pm
def90 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:58 am
They sell for a hundred bucks or so on ebay. They don’t appear to be rare in any way and were probably a souvenir type thing that the troops could buy in a street market.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R ... w&_sacat=0
thats all reproduction crap from China
not even close to what the tribal bows were in form, much less trigger function
Yet if you do a search on google there are other types shown for sale as well, all have the same story that they were all brought back by some vet that was special forces.

Here is a site that discusses them and that they were sold as souveneirs.

http://quanonline.com/military/military ... ossbow.php

They are the equivalency of the Afghan war rug bring backs.
I agree somewhat with that def
all sorts of tourist shit was ginned up in Vietnam
classic were VC sandals and other garb
sold all over Saigon City...

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I'm a member here, they might be able to tell you more about your bow.

http://www.montagnards.org/

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My brother brought back a hand made Montagnard short machete with a semi gurkha shape.
Just amazing hand work,,, shaving sharp with beautifully chisled blade engraving and ivory inlays in the wood scarbard.
I wonder what ever became of it...?

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riversidesports wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:51 pm
MURKY1911 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:29 pm
Silly sks with papers huh? Turn the computer off, go outside, and get some sun man. The internet it turning your brain to mush.
LOL

most of the SKS bringbacks never even saw combat
caches were hauled into Saigon and openly sold/swapped
basically new guns
I bought a mess of those in the 70s
most vets returning to the upper midwest tended to bring guns home

Coastal tards really didnt
but whatever floats your boat buddy
like I said, I am not going to argue...particularly with children...LOL
Most never saw combat? But this bow did?

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Woodpusherpro! wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:49 pm
riversidesports wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:51 pm
MURKY1911 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:29 pm
Silly sks with papers huh? Turn the computer off, go outside, and get some sun man. The internet it turning your brain to mush.
LOL

most of the SKS bringbacks never even saw combat
caches were hauled into Saigon and openly sold/swapped
basically new guns
I bought a mess of those in the 70s
most vets returning to the upper midwest tended to bring guns home

Coastal tards really didnt
but whatever floats your boat buddy
like I said, I am not going to argue...particularly with children...LOL
Most never saw combat? But this bow did?
did I state that ?
nope

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What weren't like 80% of all troops in Vietnam (or anywhere else) mostly truck drivers, clerks and stevedores.

Yeah they bought their war booty off the street.

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Cool wall hanger, I just took offense at the shade you were throwing at the sks.

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The chances of this being authentic are slim to none.

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Woodpusherpro! wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:45 pm
Cool wall hanger, I just took offense at the shade you were throwing at the sks.
I hate to tell you this but the vast majority of Chinese SKS rifles are just as fake as those Ebay crossbows.

Most of them that were made for import into the USA were actually made in a mud hut by hammer and file assembly of parts done by the local peasant comrade workers. The parts may or may not have ever been made in an Arsenal in China. The majority of the rifles certainly were not from any Arsenal. And I shit you not, the selling price for mud hut SKS rifle was $1, fob China. It cost more to ship them, box them and wholesale them than it did to actually buy them. This of course was about 40 years ago. Chinese AKs are almost the exact same story except that they were made in cinder block buildings with tin roofs and again are actually assembled from parts made by subcontractors assembled by the locals. In China, nearly every business is actually owned or controlled by Norinco.

Actual Chinese SKS vet bringbacks from VietNam are actual Chinese military arsenal rifles.

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Broncowilly wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:56 pm
The chances of this being authentic are slim to none.
define "authentic"

like me my late Uncle was buying this crap up in the 70s/80s when it had no value
I recall him showing this bow off to me around 75'
so it is older than most AK guys on this board LOL

combat provenace ?
nope none
had tourist bows, this is quite a scale up from Saigon street trash

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HO CHI MINH Sandals too?

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riversidesports wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:53 pm
Broncowilly wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:56 pm
The chances of this being authentic are slim to none.
define "authentic"

like me my late Uncle was buying this crap up in the 70s/80s when it had no value
I recall him showing this bow off to me around 75'
so it is older than most AK guys on this board LOL

combat provenace ?
nope none
had tourist bows, this is quite a scale up from Saigon street trash
If authentic needs to be explained to you then that just confirmed its not.

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Broncowilly wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:26 pm
riversidesports wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:53 pm
Broncowilly wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:56 pm
The chances of this being authentic are slim to none.
define "authentic"

like me my late Uncle was buying this crap up in the 70s/80s when it had no value
I recall him showing this bow off to me around 75'
so it is older than most AK guys on this board LOL

combat provenace ?
nope none
had tourist bows, this is quite a scale up from Saigon street trash
If authentic needs to be explained to you then that just confirmed its not.
sheesh...
don't be the thread assclown...

for just Decades the upper midwest was the primary source of "cowboy" guns and items
For just as long folks like me were buying dirt cheap elsewhere in America and reselling with just HUGE markups
everything is regional friend

I can give you just stupid examples:

Vintage knives
used to hit out east buying up vintage English hunters
LF&C shit
easy to triple my investment

vintage flint, percussion same thing

Teddy Roosevelt is/was a thing too
dollar books out east were sometimes over a hundred

well into the 90s guys up here went into the south east to buy SAAs, Winchester 73s and 92s where they had no real value
bring them back to the Dakotas or Montana the fools rolled in

so you really want to retard speak to me about "authentic"
look, it came from VietNam as a bringback and played with it around 1975
past that I am pretty much clueless

thats why I am asking here

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Unless you can prove anything the monetary value is only what you feel it's worth and what someone is will to pay you for it. Documentation of authenticity is where the true money value is. You have to prove it is what it is.

If I had a Babe Ruth game worn jersey it could be worth a million or a hundred like a Chinese knockoff if I don't have the documentation. It comes down to word of mouth.
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VALMET_M76 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:26 pm
Woodpusherpro! wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:45 pm
Cool wall hanger, I just took offense at the shade you were throwing at the sks.
I hate to tell you this but the vast majority of Chinese SKS rifles are just as fake as those Ebay crossbows.

Most of them that were made for import into the USA were actually made in a mud hut by hammer and file assembly of parts done by the local peasant comrade workers. The parts may or may not have ever been made in an Arsenal in China. The majority of the rifles certainly were not from any Arsenal. And I shit you not, the selling price for mud hut SKS rifle was $1, fob China. It cost more to ship them, box them and wholesale them than it did to actually buy them. This of course was about 40 years ago. Chinese AKs are almost the exact same story except that they were made in cinder block buildings with tin roofs and again are actually assembled from parts made by subcontractors assembled by the locals. In China, nearly every business is actually owned or controlled by Norinco.

Actual Chinese SKS vet bringbacks from VietNam are actual Chinese military arsenal rifles.
Huh? I'm outta here

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It boils down to provenance. Without it the item is not authentic. Since there is no provenance that really leaves one scenario; it's a tourist bobble.

Get proof of what it is from a museum or certified expert specialising in Vietnamese Montagnard weaponry and then it can be called authentic. Untell then, it's a tourist bobble.

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