My former workplace instituted a "no firearms" policy in the then new HR dept. regs. For the several (7-8?) years it was in effect, I never signed the document. HR was aware of my firearm hobby and when the push was on to get all aboard, I was never included..
We had a couple or 3 firings due to the ruling; but mostly idiots showing off or telling all and sundry :rolleyes:
I turned in my signed handbook on the way out the door!
possession of a firearm on your person or even in your vehicle is prohibited.
Do your own research, but I am fairly certain it has been proven unlawful to prohibit employees from having a legally owned firearm in their personal vehicle in the parking lot.
Inside the building sure, their building and their rules, flaunt them at your own risk, but I don't think they can prohibit them in your personal vehicle.
Now having said that, most states are "at will" employers and can fire you with or without reason. You have to measure your own risk/reward levels.
possession of a firearm on your person or even in your vehicle is prohibited.
Do your own research, but I am fairly certain it has been proven unlawful to prohibit employees from having a legally owned firearm in their personal vehicle in the parking lot.
Inside the building sure, their building and their rules, flaunt them at your own risk, but I don't think they can prohibit them in your personal vehicle.
Now having said that, most states are "at will" employers and can fire you with or without reason. You have to measure your own risk/reward levels.
Yep, you are correct based on my research as well.
Get this for a bit of complication though. More tenured employees (I've been here 14+ years so I'm in that group) get to park in a fancy schmancy indoor garage that's part of the building. Everyone else parks in a typical outdoor lot right next to the building.
Meh. I do what I do and don't really overthink it much.
At my previous employer, having a firearm on company property was grounds for immediate dismissal. Before everyone jumps up and down, it was a unique place in terms of security and technology due to the nature of the products we made. That did not stop me from having a pistol in the secret compartment of my truck on a daily basis. Although subject to search, I was never searched in the 20 years I was there. Now that I am retired and self-employed, I have taken appropriate measures.
What no one knows won't hurt them. Carried for years on the job and a few knew but they carried as well. Oddly enough not allowed to carry on the job in exploration work in Alaska. A few years back we had a young fresh geology grad student was hired and dropped off by helicopter to map an area. They eventually found her later that day having been attacked by a brown bear. Today she has two prosthetic arms. At least she lived.
possession of a firearm on your person or even in your vehicle is prohibited.
Do your own research, but I am fairly certain it has been proven unlawful to prohibit employees from having a legally owned firearm in their personal vehicle in the parking lot.
Inside the building sure, their building and their rules, flaunt them at your own risk, but I don't think they can prohibit them in your personal vehicle.
Now having said that, most states are "at will" employers and can fire you with or without reason. You have to measure your own risk/reward levels.
Yep, you are correct based on my research as well.
Get this for a bit of complication though. More tenured employees (I've been here 14+ years so I'm in that group) get to park in a fancy schmancy indoor garage that's part of the building. Everyone else parks in a typical outdoor lot right next to the building.
Meh. I do what I do and don't really overthink it much.
Unless I'm mistaken, the way the law is written your vehicle is considered to be your property, regardless of where on the company lot it's parked.
I don't think there is a distinction between 'open parking lot' and 'enclosed parking deck'...... unless you turn the lobby into your parking spot....LOL
Unless I'm mistaken, the way the law is written your vehicle is considered to be your property, regardless of where on the company lot it's parked.
Depends on the state, as to what is legal and what is not.
For me, I most certainly do not disobey my company's no-firearms policy. Most of those policies only exist for liability purposes, and as long as you aren't dangerous or super obvious about it, no one will say anything.
I don't carry at work as I would be fired immediately. I'm surrounded by Karens and enemies, so concealing would only work for a short time. In my car, however; I keep a snub nosed .38, a Ruger P89 9mm pistol and a Remington 870 12 gauge in the trunk. You never can be too careful.
Before I retired, they banned firearms at work; and then IN your car in the parking lot. ON the days I shot trap after work, I just parked on the street and shoved quarters into the meter. EVERYONE WAS MUCH MUCH SAFER THAT WAY??............ but the car was now much closer to the office!!!
After that, they banned personal laptop computers and personal smart phones. You could only use a company issued smart phone that tracked you (and any visits to gun stores), as did the car GPS.
I just had my partner drop me off at the gun store and let him go get coffee. Many ways to skin a cat. PPK in bellyband holster or deep pocket is the best as long as metal detectors are not in play.
Only one company that I ever worked for had an official policy prohibiting firearms on premises. Even then, the unofficial policy was keep in your car, and don't talk about it. Since I've been self employed for nearly a dozen years, I always carry.
Well black powder guns aren't legally considered "firearms".
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I worked at a large defense contractor. They said a gun on their property was grounds for dismissal, even in your car. Then they said if you got caught smoking on their property you could get fired. There was a large group of Missouri country boys that worked there and did what they thought they needed to do. Never heard of anyone getting fired. I'm sure everyone in my office knew I had something in my car. I'm sure some of them did too. Especially during the Ferguson riots which was only a few miles away. I kept a 12 gauge in my truck that summer.