Why Not Water Cannons?

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Why Not Water Cannons?

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All of these riots could have been nipped in the bud from the get-go with tear gas or water cannons. Or, better yet - nightsticks to the skull. You have to have the will to deploy these methods of crowd control, though. The politicians do not have the will. There are no more Frank Rizzo's among us.

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It has a bad historical reference. Think Bull Connor.

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Sorryuquit wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:55 am
It has a bad historical reference. Think Bull Connor.

Yup. This.^^^


However they do have those new crowd control devices. One is a Thermal Radiation unit which makes the skin feel as if it on fire, and the other is an audible device ( I think ).

IIRC, they were developed to deter attacks on our Ships at Port, as went down with the USS Cole, in Aden. in 2000.
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Rhetorical question, right?

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guzzimike1 wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:03 am
However they do have those new crowd control devices. One is a Thermal Radiation unit which makes the skin feel as if it on fire,
Not "thermal".

Microwave cannon.

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nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:08 am
guzzimike1 wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:03 am
However they do have those new crowd control devices. One is a Thermal Radiation unit which makes the skin feel as if it on fire,
Not "thermal".

Microwave cannon.
Microwaves heat the water in the epidermis, therefore, "thermal".

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Specz wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:13 am
nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:08 am
guzzimike1 wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:03 am
However they do have those new crowd control devices. One is a Thermal Radiation unit which makes the skin feel as if it on fire,
Not "thermal".

Microwave cannon.
Microwaves heat the water in the epidermis, therefore, "thermal".
Spin it how you want.

When you open an oven door, the heat you feel is "thermal".

Microwave cannons do not emit heat as their functional element.

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RKHarm24 wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:07 am
https://youtu.be/vKwviYxWORg

https://youtu.be/ayHKDgWfgfA

https://youtu.be/8DsHZ7_JU_E

https://youtu.be/tbozRJkHIyc

https://youtu.be/ZN1TLhNr_kA

Seemed to work in these places. Mixed a little pepper spray and tear gas TOGO.
LOL - second one down, the fat guy with the hat in Turkey got his neck broken for his last act of defiance. Object lesson: don't kick the water cannon truck.

The libtard morons in charge of these blue stated didn't want to stop it. They thought it would galvanize sentiment against Trump, when in fact, it's had the opposite effect.

What they ought to use is "Skunk" like the Israelis use - makes the rioter wretch and smell like shit themselves for weeks on end after they get sprayed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_(weapon)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW1tYhkqgHI

Not only does Skunk stink like shit for weeks, it's totally humiliating and demoralizing for the target. They can’t get rid of the stench unless they have proprietary Skunk soap, which only the police have. The perps literally become pariahs in their own communities.
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Water cannons were used against blacks during the real civil rights movement.

The optic of using them now is not worth it - especially considering all the other high-tech options that exist 60 years later.

I'm convinced that the biggest weapon being used, and which we don't see at all, is the DATA-HARVEST weapon.
The nerds have to be jerking themselves raw over the torrent of data files that are being generated behind all these events.
What they do with it will be even less conspicuous, but still probably highly effective.

After all, what is the REAL objective behind any of this?
Surely it isn't mainly to protect some stupid building. The building is just the light that draws the moth. You can't really know about moths until you can observe them closely.

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nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:17 am
Specz wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:13 am
nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:08 am

Not "thermal".

Microwave cannon.
Microwaves heat the water in the epidermis, therefore, "thermal".
Spin it how you want.

When you open an oven door, the heat you feel is "thermal".

Microwave cannons do not emit heat as their functional element.
Sure they do, you just can't feel it. They are right above infrared on the electromagnetic spectrum, which of course is thermal in its whole.

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Specz wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:24 am
nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:17 am
Specz wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:13 am


Microwaves heat the water in the epidermis, therefore, "thermal".
Spin it how you want.

When you open an oven door, the heat you feel is "thermal".

Microwave cannons do not emit heat as their functional element.
Sure they do, you just can't feel it. They are right above infrared on the electromagnetic spectrum, which of course is thermal in its whole.
You can't heat up a rock with a microwave cannon (cuz it's not a "thermal cannon")

That the microwave cannon causes a thermal event in its intended target (humans) doesn't make it a "thermal cannon".

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W_E_G wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:23 am
Water cannons were used against blacks during the real civil rights movement.

The optic of using them now is not worth it - especially considering all the other high-tech options that exist 60 years later.

I'm convinced that the biggest weapon being used, and which we don't see at all, is the DATA-HARVEST weapon.
The nerds have to be jerking themselves raw over the torrent of data files that are being generated behind all these events.
What they do with it will be even less conspicuous, but still probably highly effective.

After all, what is the REAL objective behind any of this?
Surely it isn't mainly to protect some stupid building. The building is just the light that draws the moth. You can't really know about moths until you can observe them closely.
Libtards are always more concerned about the way things appear, rather than what the are.

So 60 years after the civil rights movement, blacks are worse and worse off than they were in 1964, thanks to the welfare state and libtard tears.

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nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:27 am
Specz wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:24 am
nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:17 am
Spin it how you want.

When you open an oven door, the heat you feel is "thermal".

Microwave cannons do not emit heat as their functional element.
Sure they do, you just can't feel it. They are right above infrared on the electromagnetic spectrum, which of course is thermal in its whole.
You can't heat up a rock with a microwave cannon (cuz it's not a "thermal cannon")

That the microwave cannon causes a thermal event in its intended target (humans) doesn't make it a "thermal cannon".
Physics says you wrong.

https://phys.org/news/2017-08-microwaves-energy.html

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That "SKUNK" sounds like the ticket.

What 's happening is thoes demmarxists think those blm& antifa scumbags wil do what "Russia,Russia, Russia, " , steele's PHONY dossier, pencil-necked adam schiff's LIES & impeachment 24/7 ad nauseum, robert asshole mueller & pelosi,shumer & nadler's shit show COULDN'T do :
and THAT is pull off a coup on DJT.......

BUT those fkn traitors in the DNC & House, now have those same pos BLM/antifa MARXISTS, riding THIER backs threatening THEM , reminding THEM just what they want in return: "Reparations, green deal, free"Everything" IF & when the demmarxists ever get elected to the White house & the majority in senate & house ,TOGETHER at one time.......

AND that's why now you have that scumbag nadler out whining about antifa violence being "myth" & downplaying antifa/blm violence
hopefully the two factions of marxism will destroy each other & take thier propaganda wing , the fakenews media with them

BUT those SOBs are like cockroaches & survive every attempt .........hope thier luck runs out & they get what they deserve

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The ADS works by firing a high-powered (100 kW output power)[13] beam of 95 GHz waves at a target, which corresponds to a wavelength of 3.2 mm.[14] The ADS millimeter wave energy works on a similar principle as a microwave oven, exciting the water and fat molecules in the skin, and instantly heating them via dielectric heating. One significant difference is that a microwave oven uses the much lower frequency (and longer wavelength) of 2.45 GHz. The short millimeter waves used in ADS only penetrate the top layers of skin, with most of the energy being absorbed within 0.4 mm (​1⁄64 inch),[15] whereas microwaves will penetrate into human tissue about 17 mm (0.67 inch).[16]
Active Denial System @ Wikipedia

Again, the only "thermal" in play here are the effects on the target.

It is not a "thermal cannon".

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nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:39 am
The ADS works by firing a high-powered (100 kW output power)[13] beam of 95 GHz waves at a target, which corresponds to a wavelength of 3.2 mm.[14] The ADS millimeter wave energy works on a similar principle as a microwave oven, exciting the water and fat molecules in the skin, and instantly heating them via dielectric heating. One significant difference is that a microwave oven uses the much lower frequency (and longer wavelength) of 2.45 GHz. The short millimeter waves used in ADS only penetrate the top layers of skin, with most of the energy being absorbed within 0.4 mm (​1⁄64 inch),[15] whereas microwaves will penetrate into human tissue about 17 mm (0.67 inch).[16]
Active Denial System @ Wikipedia

Again, the only "thermal" in play here are the effects on the target.

It is not a "thermal cannon".
Which is precisely how anything "thermal" works, it excites the molecules which warms the target object. It's science.

http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/project ... -move.html

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FFS.

A "thermal cannon" would heat up anything placed in its path.

The ADS only heats up the targeted group's epidermis and similar materials, where the delivered EM waves make contact.



If the US mounted a jet engine on a HEMTT and wallowed it around so the exhaust was directed at targets, THAT would be a "thermal cannon".

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nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:47 am
FFS.

A "thermal cannon" would heat up anything placed in its path.

The ADS only heats up the targeted group's epidermis and similar materials, where the delivered EM waves make contact.
Right, that's how it works, anything in its path is heated up (it's called aiming).

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Water cannons, while effective are passé and old-school. I say give 'em the old Brown Note Generator. If that fails then open fire with the mini-guns.

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Specz wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:49 am
nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:47 am
FFS.

A "thermal cannon" would heat up anything placed in its path.

The ADS only heats up the targeted group's epidermis and similar materials, where the delivered EM waves make contact.
Right, that's how it works, anything in its path is heated up (it's called aiming).
No, that isn't how it works (did you not read the linked article)?

The ADS only heats up the skin of furless mammals in its path. It does not heat up clothes. It does not heat up metal.

It is also a "area of effect" weapon (so "aiming" isn't really that critical)

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Why not real cannons

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nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:57 am
Specz wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:49 am
nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:47 am
FFS.

A "thermal cannon" would heat up anything placed in its path.

The ADS only heats up the targeted group's epidermis and similar materials, where the delivered EM waves make contact.
Right, that's how it works, anything in its path is heated up (it's called aiming).
No, that isn't how it works (did you not read the linked article)?

The ADS only heats up the skin of furless mammals in its path. It does not heat up clothes. It does not heat up metal.

It is also a "area of effect" weapon (so "aiming" isn't really that critical)
Not really, because it does, it is just much less perceptible. It's optimized to the mammal epidermis but not limited.

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nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:57 am
Specz wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:49 am
nalioth wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:47 am
FFS.

A "thermal cannon" would heat up anything placed in its path.

The ADS only heats up the targeted group's epidermis and similar materials, where the delivered EM waves make contact.
Right, that's how it works, anything in its path is heated up (it's called aiming).
No, that isn't how it works (did you not read the linked article)?

The ADS only heats up the skin of furless mammals in its path. It does not heat up clothes. It does not heat up metal.

It is also a "area of effect" weapon (so "aiming" isn't really that critical)
Specz is correct. I know radio waves enough to know that he knows his radio waves. 95 GHz is right between microwaves and infrared. High powered radio waves in that range will heat up all sorts of things to varying degrees.

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69Rebel wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:16 am
Specz is correct. I know radio waves enough to know that he knows his radio waves. 95 GHz is right between microwaves and infrared. High powered radio waves in that range will heat up all sorts of things to varying degrees.
No shit, but not using thermal radiation.

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