Page 1 of 1

What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:50 pm
by Invictus77
What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation? Here’s what he said in 1948 about the mental shift required by living with the threat of the atomic bomb:

In one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb. “How are we to live in an atomic age?” I am tempted to reply: “Why, as you would have lived in the sixteenth century when the plague visited London almost every year, or as you would have lived in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night; or indeed, as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents.”

In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation. Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented: and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways. We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors—anesthetics; but we have that still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.

This is the first point to be made: and the first action to be taken is to pull ourselves together. If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things—praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts—not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds.”

— “On Living in an Atomic Age” (1948) in Present Concerns: Journalistic Essays

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:54 pm
by 69Rebel
Good post, OP.

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:58 pm
by Pvt.Joker
Probably something akin to "*BANG* *BANG* *BANG* LET... ME... OUT... OF... THIS... DAMNED... BOX!!!!! *Muffled fingernail scratching coming from 6 feet underground*

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:59 pm
by MI redneck
69Rebel wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:54 pm
Good post, OP.
Agreed!
Very fitting.

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:16 pm
by yellowhand
Get busy living or get busy dying.
Welcome to humanity.
Good Post Mike...

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:20 am
by Lostintejas
I really like C.S. Lewis' phrases and observations.
What would he say about the current tantrum? Dunno, but it would be interesting. Perhaps the same thing he said of the atomic age.

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:30 am
by madmanmccoy
Don't know about "C.S.Lewis" but the MADMAN sez: "BOMB the motha fukkerz"

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:34 am
by hebie82
Quite possibly he would take a quote from his book Mere Christianity, “Each day we are becoming a creature of splendid glory or one of unthinkable horror.”
On another note, I always liked this quote: “Since it is so likely that children will meet cruel enemies, let them at least have heard of brave knights and heroic courage.”

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:47 am
by Nigel Quarterbrain
Are we NOT men?

https://vimeo.com/44279225

We are DEVO!

:D

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:16 am
by 69Rebel
hebie82 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:34 am
Quite possibly he would take a quote from his book Mere Christianity, “Each day we are becoming a creature of splendid glory or one of unthinkable horror.”
On another note, I always liked this quote: “Since it is so likely that children will meet cruel enemies, let them at least have heard of brave knights and heroic courage.”
The knights were all racist white men. ;)

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:27 am
by Nigel Quarterbrain
And the Hutu and the Tutsi's were different because of their noses and slaughtered one another because, Why?

Did they not all cherish and desire the same things yet possessed no morals concerning the acquisition thereof?

Where is the good God of these creatures we call men and frivolously bestowed upon them for lame reasons the crown of equality?

I axe these things in good conscience and clarity of mind that those pondering the query might take pause in it.

If I had 1/2 a mind . . .

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:36 pm
by hebie82
69Rebel wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:16 am
hebie82 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:34 am
Quite possibly he would take a quote from his book Mere Christianity, “Each day we are becoming a creature of splendid glory or one of unthinkable horror.”
On another note, I always liked this quote: “Since it is so likely that children will meet cruel enemies, let them at least have heard of brave knights and heroic courage.”
The knights were all racist white men. ;)
Dont get me started Rebel

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:46 pm
by warp2diesel
Good post.

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:14 pm
by jwag74
I always liked this one when it comes to the government looking out for your good.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.” C.S, Lewis

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:27 pm
by guzzimike1
Although generally accurate, I find the Lewis opinion much too verbose.

I prefer Julius Caesar's synthesized version.

Vini, Vidi,Vici.

.

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:30 pm
by Claymore
Lewis was a genius. Mere Christianity should be read by every believer, as should the Screwtape Letters.

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:02 am
by Nigel Quarterbrain
jwag74 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:14 pm
I always liked this one when it comes to the government looking out for your good.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.” C.S, Lewis
I have been both married happily and subsequently divorced from this ^^ exact mindset before.

The Left needs a project to work upon [to make them feel important & useful] that will also monetarily support their efforts of undermining and destroying the support that they derive from its project's tolerance and benevolence.


And here we are . . .


:shock:

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:57 pm
by frick
Well, I applaud your attempt to bring some intelligence into these forums, 98 percent of the people here would think C.S. Lewis, is actually Jerry Lewis's father, that is, if they know who Jerry Lewis is.

You couldn't even draw a moderator into this thread, and it seems you get a reply from them in EVERY THREAD, so...

But, the comment about "We are not men", is an absolutely spot on take, not on what Lewis would say, but, on what I think he would think if he were alive today.

They entire theory of "De-evolution", which is what Devo stands for, is fully at play in society today. I submit, looking at modern genetic study, we now know, that some homo sapiens, have interbred with Neanderthal, Denisovan, and probably at least five more hominids yet un-named.

Sapiens/Neanderthal are primarily the mix that came out of Europe, Sapiens/Denisovan, went out and into Northern Asia, and eventually over the land bridge, the third, yet un-named whose DNA came from a toe bone in Siberia, into southeast Asia, and eventually bred into the Australoids, SP?, or native Australians, IE, Pygmys.

The only Sapiens which we can say hasn't benefited from hybrid interbreeding are native Africans, and, I think that in part explains why we have seen the inner city devolve into violence, and, I am in no way being racist here.

All hybrid humans have seen benefits from the interbreeding, we are no longer just one species.

Either as a species, we breed out better and move up, or, genetically we stagnate and begin to devolve into something lesser than we were.

I could make the case that its become that for even some of the non African hybrid species, all of America is getting dumber, and more violent, just look at the the crowd in Portland, you just can't make the case that Suburbus Americanus, the North American Street Ape, isn't the only devolved human there.

When a human has become unable to fend for themselves, and needs to submit to violence to survive, is a return to our caveman roots, and I could find plenty of both white, yellow, black and brown folks at those riots that I could point out as devolved humans, civilized society has let bad genetic traits evolve, when those carrying the defects should have been bred out, I could make the case alone, on how the invention of corrective lenses, have bred us into a society where most people have genetic vision defects, that would have been deadly in a hunter/gatherer society.

So, is it any surprise the welfare state, and plantation mentality of the inner city, and, the city itself is causing a degradation in our gene pool? Cities are a recent invention, historically, and with cities, come problems, and solutions to those problems, the invention of the modern police, is now manifesting issues that arose with its own creation.

We are NOT men, WE ARE DEVO, and today shows the proof of that.

A society on its ascendancy could not be controlled by the Governments we have today, ordering people to live in fear, and to use a pandemic to tear society apart.

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:01 pm
by frick
Sorry, can't figure out how to post the image, but, Jocko Homo, or the face on the cover of "We are not men", wasn't the original choice, it was actually Chi Chi Rodgiguez.

https://www.golfcompendium.com/2019/04 ... evo.html

And, Devo also holds the honor of having a Presidential Assassin provide lyrics for one of their songs, John Hinckley Jr., the song, I desire.

The FBI and Warner Brothers were FUCKING PISSED that he would get royalties, and still does from the song and album.

Seriously, want to see inside the mind of an assassin, read the lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb_YpEnX2QQ

I Desire
Devo
I desire I desire
I pledge allegiance to the thought
That your love is all that matters
And your gestures have the power
To bring the whole world to its knees
Don't let me torment you
Don't let me bring you down
Don't ever let me hurt you
Don't let me fail because
I desire your attention
I desire your perfect love
I desire nothing more (than this)
To give you happiness
Could become a lifetime goal
A smile I might bring you
Is more important than world peace
I pledge allegiance to the fact
That you're wise to walk away
For nothing is more dangerous
Than desire when it's wrong
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: Gerald Casale / John F. Hinkley / Mark Allen Mothersbaugh

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:14 pm
by frick
Everything in life can be understood through Devo, and probably Star Trek.

One of the newer songs.

"What we do, is what we do", a surprisingly deep look at what we have become with technology, a further step into De-evolution, our minds are becoming dumbed down, even further.

"Eenie, meanie miney moe, the lucky will be the first to go"....

Survival is hard, can we continue to survive if the "Trigger effect", James Burke warned us of actually happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp2tQ75pTD0

And please, in no way am I being flippant about this, warnings sometimes come from unexpected places.

Re: What might CS Lewis say of our COVID situation?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:39 am
by Nigel Quarterbrain
Occasionally, people of a singular mind find one another in a sea of confusion.

Best, frick.

Nigel.

:)