Can We Have An Honest Conversation About Black Americans?

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Jabes0623
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nalioth wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:50 am
Jabes0623 wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:13 am
After 5 pages a pretty clear picture has been painted, we mostly agree (we’re never all going to agree) that America’s blacks are a serious problem & a threat to our way of life.
*SIGH*

"America's blacks" are not all out being criminals.

From the back of the napkin . .

There are about 35,479,000 million black folks in the USA (by census)

According to the stats, 2,306 per 100,000 of those are imprisoned, which makes about 819,000 blacks in prison.



So tell us again, how does 3% of the black population become "America's blacks"?
You’re partially correct. Pretending it’s only 3% of blacks that cause issues in our society is just silly & you know it.

But at the end of the day there’s only one actual solution, which a few have pointed out all along, & that is to get the government out of these people’s lives. They’re responsible for their actions & what they’ve allowed their race to become. But they only have that option due to the government “safety net” being there to feed, house & clothe them. End the Welfare state & you’ve gone a long way in solving most of the issues that currently face this nation.

Hopefully we can figure out a way to make that happen. But I’m not holding my breathe.

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caertaker wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:00 am
Jabes0623 wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:13 am
After 5 pages a pretty clear picture has been painted, we mostly agree (we’re never all going to agree) that America’s blacks are a serious problem & a threat to our way of life. There’s some disagreement on why/how they’ve fallen so far in our society, but no debate that on the whole they have fallen. We seem to agree that they have as much, if not more, disdain for us than we do for them. So...

Is there a solution? Totally outlandish; Black Israel; A black super majority nation propped up by the West for the foreseeable future. Mostly outlandish; Ending EBT & .gov programs that encourage laziness & the destruction of the family. Realistically; Whites with similar values pick a few states & move to them in large numbers to ensure a majority & states that remain run how we see fit. With some type of structure in place that guarantees when someone dies or sells their property will only go to another like minded individual.

As I see it, as whites creep ever closer to being the minority in this nation this problem is only going to accelerate. A solution, a viable one is going to have to be found or our way of life is doomed. Our children & grandchildren will grow up & live in a very hostile & dangerous nation. While at the same time vast amounts of white wealth will be stolen via taxation (with little to no representation), reparations & outright confiscation, either at the the hands of the .gov or the mob
To me framing the problem is rather important since I believe the solution is irrevocable. America's blacks are a symptom of the disease of modern liberalism/Marxism/Godlessness/etc... You could terminate every one based on skin color and the problem would still exist. Attack the disease not the symptoms.


Nailed it.

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nalioth wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:50 am
Jabes0623 wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:13 am
After 5 pages a pretty clear picture has been painted, we mostly agree (we’re never all going to agree) that America’s blacks are a serious problem & a threat to our way of life.
*SIGH*

"America's blacks" are not all out being criminals.

From the back of the napkin . .

There are about 35,479,000 million black folks in the USA (by census)

According to the stats, 2,306 per 100,000 of those are imprisoned, which makes about 819,000 blacks in prison.



So tell us again, how does 3% of the black population become "America's blacks"?


The numbers I have seen are that about 33% of black male's from around age of 18 to 50 or so ( I forget the age range ) have a criminal record or are in prison .

I don't care what there percentage of population is in the country . The fact is about 50% of convicted murderers are black . Factor in that in big cites the clearance rate for murder is less than 10% ( Chicago is about 7% ) there are a lot more killers who are undoubtedly black based on the FACT that about 48% of that 50% of killings are black on black there is a lot of black murderers running around never to be caught .

IF blacks were truly treated as equals and back on black crime was really investigated like it is when a crime on whites is addressed the numbers of convicted blacks would likely go up tremendously.

If blacks truly want to the police and politicians to treat hem as equals then the numbers of them held accountable for there action would put a huge percentage in prison . Fact is in places like Chicago nobody cares when a black kills another black . They sure the fuck don't care if they deal drugs to each other and rob and steal form each other .
Compare cleared murders of whites by whites vs black on whites . Many blacks don't want cops to do there job because there way of life would come to a quick end.

Im all for racial equality if it starts at dealing with criminals.

3% of the population is what is doing a large part of crime in America so they get the attention of anyone non black .

George Floyd was a multiple time convicted felon he should have been in prison yet he is exactly what blacks are now rallying round as there lives matter . They use him as example of who they are . IMO that a big mistake . A criminal being arrested should not be there rally cry . They should be rallying around poorer education provided , poorer job opportunities not how there criminals are treated .
want to be viewed as equal and productive then start a moment of being self sufficient and not government dependent .

I watched some crap this morning by some black leader . seems they think more money for housing and every thing else because CV 19 is causing them more problems now than whites . BS What they need is more job opportunities and a actual will to go do them. The will to improve is on them not whites .

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Mandaree36 wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:21 pm
caertaker wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:00 am
Jabes0623 wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:13 am
After 5 pages a pretty clear picture has been painted, we mostly agree (we’re never all going to agree) that America’s blacks are a serious problem & a threat to our way of life. There’s some disagreement on why/how they’ve fallen so far in our society, but no debate that on the whole they have fallen. We seem to agree that they have as much, if not more, disdain for us than we do for them. So...

Is there a solution? Totally outlandish; Black Israel; A black super majority nation propped up by the West for the foreseeable future. Mostly outlandish; Ending EBT & .gov programs that encourage laziness & the destruction of the family. Realistically; Whites with similar values pick a few states & move to them in large numbers to ensure a majority & states that remain run how we see fit. With some type of structure in place that guarantees when someone dies or sells their property will only go to another like minded individual.

As I see it, as whites creep ever closer to being the minority in this nation this problem is only going to accelerate. A solution, a viable one is going to have to be found or our way of life is doomed. Our children & grandchildren will grow up & live in a very hostile & dangerous nation. While at the same time vast amounts of white wealth will be stolen via taxation (with little to no representation), reparations & outright confiscation, either at the the hands of the .gov or the mob
To me framing the problem is rather important since I believe the solution is irrevocable. America's blacks are a symptom of the disease of modern liberalism/Marxism/Godlessness/etc... You could terminate every one based on skin color and the problem would still exist. Attack the disease not the symptoms.


Nailed it.





I believe the powers that run the blacks want the Black Israel, and the same free ride AND more than they are getting now. It would never work. The Nation of Islam is the biggest promoter of that idea. They will not accept mixed races nor mixed marriages. So, those folks would have to stay put. They want Texas or a Gulf state.

Lets say in 100 years this happens. The leaders of the Black Israel would then demand protection money and support much the same way as Mexico does now. The money would go into the leaders pockets, and then you would have people trying to back in to the USA after nearly starving to death.

Give them land in another country? Hardly no one would leave. They would have to paid to leave. Then what about the ones that stayed?

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https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/20 ... ly-blacks/


" the percentage of all Americans with a felony record was 8.11 percent (including three percent who have served time in prison), but for black males the rate was 33 percent (including 15 percent who have been to prison). Additionally, while the absolute number of people with felony convictions increased threefold between 1980 and 2010, it increased fivefold"

If you define it further by a age group of say 18 to 50 the numbers are likely closer to 45% . In some states the numbers are staggering .

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https://www.sentencingproject.org/news/5593/

" The researchers found that the percentage of black men with a felony conviction increased from 13% in 1980 to 33% in 2010 (compared to 5% and 13% for all adult men during these periods, respectively). They also estimate that the percentage of black men who had experienced imprisonment increased from 6% in 1980 to 15% in 2010 "

The number's are getting worse for convicted black felons.
keep in mind this is just for felony convections. Non traffic violations for blacks is staggering. In some places over 60% of blacks have been arrested by the age of 28 or so.

Now if blacks are singled out or if there given a pass more to be more politically correct is up for debate .

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We cannot have an honest conversation about black Americans because most of them are not capable of an honest discussion about facts.

After all, it is YT's fault that they are in this predicament, and they won't let go of it, because it is easier to play the blame game than facing up
and admitting that it is to some extent their own fault.

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Three Black guys at work (all aged 60-70) are the nicest, hardest working, most honest people you'd ever meet. Any of them younger than 60 are lazy, lying, stupid pieces of shit.

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moonbat60 wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:03 am
We cannot have an honest conversation about black Americans because most of them are not capable of an honest discussion about facts.
"About" - not "with"

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moonbat60 wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:03 am
We cannot have an honest conversation about black Americans because most of them are not capable of an honest discussion about facts.

After all, it is YT's fault that they are in this predicament, and they won't let go of it, because it is easier to play the blame game than facing up
and admitting that it is to some extent their own fault.
Speaking the truth about ******* upsets liberals and there twisted pretzel logic.

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Re: Can We Have An Honest Conversation About Black Americans?

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Jabes0623 wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:13 am
After 5 pages a pretty clear picture has been painted, we mostly agree (we’re never all going to agree) that America’s blacks are a serious problem & a threat to our way of life. There’s some disagreement on why/how they’ve fallen so far in our society, but no debate that on the whole they have fallen. We seem to agree that they have as much, if not more, disdain for us than we do for them.

Nicely summarized and quite true. They're violent, drastically under accomplished, socially irresponsible and as a cultural group in the US, a big failure. They've created a self poisoning pop culture and are determined to live down to their stereotypes.

They've had fifty years of over generous helping hands and they've squandered it.

I don't care about them any more.

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