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Old August 11, 2009, 10:48   #1
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Reloading for the Garand

Where can I find information on reloading for the M1 Garand in 30-06 and -308?
I have several reloading manuals but I am looking for specific loads for the M1

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Old August 12, 2009, 17:53   #2
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The last few Hornady manuals have 7.62X51 and 7.62X63 military loads in separate chapters next to .308 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield loads, respectively.
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Old August 12, 2009, 19:08   #3
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This is a good article on loading for the M1/M14. It's not really load recipes, but more like info on what to do differently and what to watch out for. You may find it helpful...

http://www.zediker.com/downloads/14_loading.pdf
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Old August 12, 2009, 20:59   #4
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Garand reloads

Try this site, http://njhighpower.com/ look under reloading stuph, yes stuph.
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Old August 12, 2009, 21:46   #5
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Good information! Thanks guys.
Dave, I need to buy new reloading manuals as the ones I have date from the 70's. My old Speer manual listed IMR 4350 loads for the .308 and 30.06 so when Midway emailed me they had some in stock I bought 8 lbs. Now I found out it is too slow burning and builds too much pressure for my M1! I bought a Garand from a friend a month ago and started shooting it at our local DCM matches. I hadn't fired one since basic training in 1961! I never realized they needed special ammo and that it was getting hard to find.

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Old August 13, 2009, 07:22   #6
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The NRA published a "Recommended Loads for Garands" list a number of years ago. It's still valid today. If you'd like to have it and can't find it. I'll print it up for you.

It's all about "Port Pressure" when loading Garands and other gas guns. IMR 4895 and 4064 are two of the best.

BTW; You may need a nice bolt gun to shoot up that IMR 4350!
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Old August 13, 2009, 10:36   #7
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Mainer, I have been looking for the American Rifleman Garand load article but I can't find it. I have been a NRA member forever but in the interest of marital bliss I don't save the old issues. I think the article was in the 3/86 issue but I could be wrong. If you have the article I would be happy to pay for any costs incurred if you could send me a copy. ( Anvils@AOL.com)

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Old August 13, 2009, 12:57   #8
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Garand ammo

Guys, be aware that CMP is still selling Greek 30-06 in enbloc clips in spam cans that is good shooting ammo. The brass is boxer, non corrosive and shoots great in my Garands.

Price has been constantly rising, but still sells at 192 rounds in a spam can for $75. I think this is close to the cost of reloading at current prices. I've had no problems in reloading the brass.
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Old August 13, 2009, 23:27   #9
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Just bought 3 of those spam cans... should be here soon!

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Old August 15, 2009, 10:35   #10
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Just received my CMP Greek '06 yesterday that I ordered in March.
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Old August 15, 2009, 10:52   #11
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IMR 4064 is an ideal powder for the Garand.

Load manual at http://www.imrpowder.com/PDF/Hodgdon...c%20Manual.pdf

51 grains IMR 4064 pushing a 150-grain bullet.
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Old August 16, 2009, 06:22   #12
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51 grains IMR 4064 pushing a 150-grain bullet.
The above load is more than a trifle warm for a Garand. Our team load for the last two years has been 50 grains with the Hornady 150, and we had to put Schuster plugs in the gas cylinders to mitigate the pounding. As a cross-check that this is was not imaginary, the setting that would function smartly with the 50gr. load had to be closed down three or four stops to reliably cycle with M2 ball or Greek.

I would think that 47 to 48 grains would be about a duplicate for M2 port pressure, but that is just a SWAG.
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Old August 16, 2009, 09:07   #13
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Good call Shlomo.

I just pulled that load out of the IMR manual.

Seemed a bit warm to me too.
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Old August 29, 2009, 12:36   #14
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In the Garand use powders with a burn rate from 3031 to 4320 ONLY! Or you could bend your op rod. The powder IMR 4895 is the perfect burn rate.
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Old August 29, 2009, 21:59   #15
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I loaded for 30-06 (Enfield 1917) and got a one hole clover leaf group at 25 yds- iron sights and bad eyes. It was 47.9 grains of 4064, Win primer, 150 gr Hornady FMJ bullet and Greek brass. (I shop at CMP too. Best deal going...) The Enfield came from there too.
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Old August 30, 2009, 10:07   #16
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30-06 Ive had the best results in my M-1 with IMR 4064, IMR 4895 and H 4895.

You should not use slow burning powder in a Garand it will bend or destroy the operating rod.
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Old August 30, 2009, 10:12   #17
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Buncha hand-wringers here.

If ya bend the op-rod, just bend it back.
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Old August 31, 2009, 08:28   #18
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What primer? Is there a hard primer for the Garand and M1A? H4895 works well in Garands, and bolt guns.
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Old August 31, 2009, 09:03   #19
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I just happened to have my reloading log book right here as I read this thread.

My Garand load is 49.0grs of IMR 4064, CCI 200 primer, Sierra 150gr Gameking and mixed commercial brass. It chrony's at 2750fps +/- 10. M2 ball specs is 2740 fps +/- 70fps. The rifle is a pussycat with this load.

DISCLAIMER: Approach all loads with due caution! The above load was last use over 10 yrs ago (seriously - the last time I reloaded for my Garand was June 1999 ) Any of the different componets could have changed just a bit in those years and I'll have to work up to this load when I do it again.
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Old September 04, 2009, 13:21   #20
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Try this

This load works great in both my 1990 SA M1A and SA 1944 .308 Garand.

41.5 gr. IMR 4895
168 gr. SMK
LC 05' brass (FL sized/trimmed of course)
CCI 200 primer
OAL loaded 2.20

Groups great in the M1A ( 2"- 3" prone at 100 yards, it can do better, I'm 54 years old, have a belly and , poor vision, no excuses though )

It groups about 3-5" prone at 100 yards with the Garand. That will be tweaked for improvement and the barrel is brand new ( 20 rounds now thru it. )

This is a good starting place for your loads.
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AA2520 also works well. The burn rate is about the same as the 4064 and 4835. 46 grains behind a 150-162 gr. bullet is a nice round to fire.
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Old September 16, 2009, 16:20   #22
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Can any one tell me the C.O.L. on M2 ball or Greek? I'm loading LC brass with M2 152gr FMJ bullets and have read several different COL. I would like to know what the military COL is.

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M2 COL is 3.34 nominal.

A great resource is this TM.

http://www.dtic.mil/dticasd/sbir/sbir032/a044a.pdf

If this link doesn't work for you google TM43-0001-27.pdf
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Some more info for you..
http://web.archive.org/web/200006200...rpo/M1load.htm
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Old September 16, 2009, 22:32   #25
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Wow, huge difference between commercial and military.

Commercial = 3.240

Military = 3.340

If I seat the M2's to the cannelure Iím right at 3.35ish, but to seat what I was reading for commercial I was seating way past the cannelure at 3.240.

Good to know. Thanks guys
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Try this site, http://njhighpower.com/ look under reloading stuph, yes stuph.
http://radomski.us/njhp/cart_tech.htm

Corrected URL.
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Old October 28, 2019, 10:29   #28
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Some M1 Garand reloading documents.

https://www.scribd.com/document/7380...-the-M1-Garand

https://www.scribd.com/document/4085...Rifle-J-Clarke

https://www.scribd.com/document/4981...-E-Harris-1986



Can save viewable documents with this tool.

https://www.scrdownloader.com/



Most IMR powders have been the same since 1977.

H4895 changed in 1999, AFTER these documents.

W748 is about the same since 1973, when it replaced W748BR.

H335 changed around 1980-1981, but some newer documents still reference older H335, which was surplus WC846 and WC844, newer H335 is faster.

If you see H335 load data as high as BLC2 load data, it is the OLD surplus H335 load data, not current commercial H335!

BL(C)-2 is pretty much the same as it has been a commercial powder, since it replaced surplus Ball-C powder.

Varget came out in 1997 and these documents are older.

Accurate Arms / Accurate Powders has changed and keeps changing over the years.

Accurate A2495 and A4064 are made in the IMR plant in Canada.

A2495 is similar to IMR-4895, but has more flash and is slightly bulkier.

A4064 is slower than IMR-4064 and is similar to IMR-4320 and is also short cut like IMR-4064.

John R. Clarke also has a similar M14 reloading article, but it is rare on the Internet.

I scanned and posted it once, but it doesn't look like it is still available on the Internet right now.
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