All Coonan assets to go up for auction

Invictus77 · November 08, 2019, 12:37

https://www.hoffonlineauctions.com/c...4NAgWkaWKLVnJ4

**yellowhand** · November 08, 2019, 13:41

Did not see any receivers/pistols,,etc,,,,,,,,wonder what happened to that left over inventory????????

**J. Armstrong** · November 08, 2019, 13:54

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Originally Posted by yellowhand

Did not see any receivers/pistols,,etc,,,,,,,,wonder what happened to that left over inventory????????

Crawled away in the dark of night ?

Led · November 08, 2019, 15:15

I was always interested in their 357 1911's. Very glad I never bought one.

Later,
Stephen

**TNAndy** · November 08, 2019, 15:21

This is very sad. Just a few years ago, Coonan was touted by many here as the top FAL receiver manufacturer. Nobody else came close.

Then everything went sideways.

easttex · November 08, 2019, 16:01

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Originally Posted by yellowhand

Did not see any receivers/pistols,,etc,,,,,,,,wonder what happened to that left over inventory????????

Maybe the gun parts were sold to somebody like Numrich? They still buy out retiring gunsmiths and shops closing down.

spider991 · November 08, 2019, 16:05

Bummer, 1 more fal business down the tube. Moses(I know, he who shall not be named)...built me a very nice imbel carbine on a coonan..served me very well and still is..

jhend170 · November 08, 2019, 16:41

I wonder if my wife would notice the portable shooting range in the driveway...

ratas calientes · November 08, 2019, 18:14

Hmmm . . . . do places like this ever sell their intellectual property? Like design specs, drawings, programs, to manufacture FAL receivers? That would be quite useful.

Abominog · November 08, 2019, 18:24

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Originally Posted by ratas calientes

Hmmm . . . . do places like this ever sell their intellectual property? Like design specs, drawings, programs, to manufacture FAL receivers? That would be quite useful.

Exactly. I can have recievers made a mile from here. Want drawings, fixtures, etc. that’s what’s needed. Looks like someone else got them- who?

meltblown · November 08, 2019, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Abominog

Exactly. I can have recievers made a mile from here. Want drawings, fixtures, etc. that’s what’s needed. Looks like someone else got them- who?

2 computer monitors for sale. Not the computer. To have all the coding for the machine tools and such would be nice as well

pistolero1911 · November 09, 2019, 08:08

P'rolly keeping the Intellectual Property for another Phoenix like rise from the ashes. I imagine that the IP was never an asset of Coonan Inc.

Dan Coonan is nothing if not resourceful, and dishonest.

**hardheaded** · November 09, 2019, 08:23

I didn't see any slitting cutters or FAL receiver fixtures in the pictures , just end mills
Anybody else see anything for the top cover or bolt grooves ?

Edit: I found some

1911Ron · November 09, 2019, 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Led

I was always interested in their 357 1911's. Very glad I never bought one.

Later,
Stephen

You didn't miss anything.

Abominog · November 09, 2019, 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by pistolero1911

P'rolly keeping the Intellectual Property for another Phoenix like rise from the ashes. I imagine that the IP was never an asset of Coonan Inc.

Dan Coonan is nothing if not resourceful, and dishonest.

Retaining IP would be the intelligent thing to do. Anybody can buy a used Haas, but the programming will cost as much or more than the machine.

Tuhlmann · November 10, 2019, 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Led

I was always interested in their 357 1911's. Very glad I never bought one.

Later,
Stephen

I was interested too, until I handled one. Felt rough. Way too rough for a $1400-$1700 pistol. Glad I passed, too.

**V guy** · November 11, 2019, 17:50

Maybe Century already got the "GOOD STUFF??"

ftierson · November 11, 2019, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratas calientes

Hmmm . . . . do places like this ever sell their intellectual property? Like design specs, drawings, programs, to manufacture FAL receivers? That would be quite useful.

Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't want to duplicate a Coonan receiver anyway...

Forrest

**Riversidesports** · November 11, 2019, 19:30

Coonass has jacked up folks for decades, years before his entry into FAL receivers

There are three, at least three generations of Coonan .357 pistols
The first gen guns were remarkable.
frames & slides from bar stock

The guns were farmed out, much of Coonan products always have been

on the .357 auto loaders they were totally subcontracted

Early guns were incredible
not sure when they did it but eventually Coonan went to investment castings
Third generation guns were a complete crap shoot
Problem was they changed enough of the design the 1st gen pistols were not really interchangeable with later generations.

so yeah major hand fitting

seem to recall they changed up the firing pin and extractor design in Gen Two
Gen Three guns have slightly different lock work and barrel to slide mating
look the same externally, different internally

I bought a mess of parts from subcontractors in the 90s for 1st Gen guns
one of their main contractors was in Souix City
1st time he went under he left them holding an empty bag. Finished frames, slides, barrels, etc heaped in a scrap dumpster.
Way I heard it, Dan was into the shop already for tens of thousands when they cut him off. Coonan folded into bankrupt...

smaller parts were built around the Twin Cities also contracted out
New in the box 1st Gen's still crop up in Minnesota
One character we knew ended up with a stack of NIB .357s when Danny folded. He had worked with no wages for some six or more months, one day the doors were locked. No one was told

On the FAL receivers, again they were not being manufactured by Coonan
hate to burst bubbleheads here but they were just slightly higher quality Hesse, one of Danny's bros
Okay, one outfit did the castings
Hesse did the machining
Coonan cleaned them up, marked and finished them

Yeah that's why there's no specific tooling or prints
Coonan FAL receivers were just a nicer Hesse product you meatheads, the operations were local to Minneapolis/St. Paul for the most part
Coonan never made one FAL receiver in house, they are just rebranded Hesse products

this is heavy duty here
DPMS shares contractors with JP Enterprises for example
both were somewhat in bed with Hesse as their subcontractor
Century demanded receivers dirty cheap, Hesse
made them and dirty cheap for Century Monkeys to build upon

it's just laughable this is not understood

**embatp** · November 11, 2019, 19:35

From what I understand they used the molds from Hesse and they did the machining

November 08, 2019, 12:37	#1
Invictus77 The Colonel 1C16:13 Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 74205 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Western, KY Posts: 8,072	All Coonan assets to go up for auction https://www.hoffonlineauctions.com/c...4NAgWkaWKLVnJ4 __________________ A 9mm might expand A 45 will never shrink

November 08, 2019, 13:41	#2
yellowhand Dinosaur Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 67949 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sierra Vista AZ Posts: 20,671	Did not see any receivers/pistols,,etc,,,,,,,,wonder what happened to that left over inventory???????? __________________ You may find me dead in a ditch one day, on my knees, but I will be up to my waist in spent rifle brass. It ain't the firearms they are wanting to be rid of, its you!

November 08, 2019, 15:21	#5
TNAndy Computer Geek Contributor FALaholic #: 64986 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,705	This is very sad. Just a few years ago, Coonan was touted by many here as the top FAL receiver manufacturer. Nobody else came close. Then everything went sideways. __________________ ----------- Go Vols!

November 08, 2019, 18:14	#9
ratas calientes Registered FALaholic #: 1841 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 9,423	Hmmm . . . . do places like this ever sell their intellectual property? Like design specs, drawings, programs, to manufacture FAL receivers? That would be quite useful. __________________ Ratas Calientes (Hot Rats) Rats are people too!

November 09, 2019, 08:08	#12
pistolero1911 Registered FALaholic #: 75616 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 996	P'rolly keeping the Intellectual Property for another Phoenix like rise from the ashes. I imagine that the IP was never an asset of Coonan Inc. Dan Coonan is nothing if not resourceful, and dishonest. __________________ Three kinds of men exist: Those who wish they owned a FAL; those who own a FAL but wish it was a Para; and those who own a Para = Nirvana.

November 08, 2019, 15:15	#4
Led Registered FALaholic #: 6910 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Huntington, WV Posts: 563	I was always interested in their 357 1911's. Very glad I never bought one. Later, Stephen

November 08, 2019, 16:05	#7
spider991 Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 35820 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,928	Bummer, 1 more fal business down the tube. Moses(I know, he who shall not be named)...built me a very nice imbel carbine on a coonan..served me very well and still is..

November 08, 2019, 16:41	#8
jhend170 Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 76477 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,064	I wonder if my wife would notice the portable shooting range in the driveway...

November 09, 2019, 08:23	#13
hardheaded Veteran Member Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 27964 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,077	I didn't see any slitting cutters or FAL receiver fixtures in the pictures , just end mills Anybody else see anything for the top cover or bolt grooves ? Edit: I found some __________________ Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry. Thomas Jefferson Last edited by hardheaded; November 09, 2019 at 10:00.

November 11, 2019, 17:50	#17
V guy Dinosaur Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 10282 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: miami Posts: 18,072	Maybe Century already got the "GOOD STUFF??"

November 11, 2019, 19:30	#19
Riversidesports keeping it cool Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 36091 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 6,658	Coonass has jacked up folks for decades, years before his entry into FAL receivers There are three, at least three generations of Coonan .357 pistols The first gen guns were remarkable. frames & slides from bar stock The guns were farmed out, much of Coonan products always have been on the .357 auto loaders they were totally subcontracted Early guns were incredible not sure when they did it but eventually Coonan went to investment castings Third generation guns were a complete crap shoot Problem was they changed enough of the design the 1st gen pistols were not really interchangeable with later generations. so yeah major hand fitting seem to recall they changed up the firing pin and extractor design in Gen Two Gen Three guns have slightly different lock work and barrel to slide mating look the same externally, different internally I bought a mess of parts from subcontractors in the 90s for 1st Gen guns one of their main contractors was in Souix City 1st time he went under he left them holding an empty bag. Finished frames, slides, barrels, etc heaped in a scrap dumpster. Way I heard it, Dan was into the shop already for tens of thousands when they cut him off. Coonan folded into bankrupt... smaller parts were built around the Twin Cities also contracted out New in the box 1st Gen's still crop up in Minnesota One character we knew ended up with a stack of NIB .357s when Danny folded. He had worked with no wages for some six or more months, one day the doors were locked. No one was told On the FAL receivers, again they were not being manufactured by Coonan hate to burst bubbleheads here but they were just slightly higher quality Hesse, one of Danny's bros Okay, one outfit did the castings Hesse did the machining Coonan cleaned them up, marked and finished them Yeah that's why there's no specific tooling or prints Coonan FAL receivers were just a nicer Hesse product you meatheads, the operations were local to Minneapolis/St. Paul for the most part Coonan never made one FAL receiver in house, they are just rebranded Hesse products this is heavy duty here DPMS shares contractors with JP Enterprises for example both were somewhat in bed with Hesse as their subcontractor Century demanded receivers dirty cheap, Hesse made them and dirty cheap for Century Monkeys to build upon it's just laughable this is not understood

November 11, 2019, 19:35	#20
embatp What? Me AR? Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 39856 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Behind enemy lines... Posts: 4,770	From what I understand they used the molds from Hesse and they did the machining __________________ "only he is lost who gives himself up for lost"

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