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Old December 12, 2019, 12:50   #1
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New sights

Interesting, what do you guys think?

https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p365-sas.html
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Old December 12, 2019, 15:56   #2
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I like the concept, wasn't sure about the ported barrel.

You can buy the slide sans porting to convert the standard 365, I may get one once they are in stock. https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p365-...-assembly.html
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Old December 12, 2019, 16:31   #3
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Makes the 563 a better snag proof tool in my opinion. I like that but not sure I can get used to the sight picture.
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Old December 12, 2019, 18:01   #4
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Great concept, but... not a fan of the 365. Now, put them on the 365 XL and I'd be all-over it. Neat!
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Old December 17, 2019, 22:51   #5
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Old January 09, 2020, 21:10   #6
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I was gonna look into a Sig here pretty quick. Is this new sight only available on the smaller frame, I would prefer a full frame pistol. Was just up at Dunham's perusing them tonight and the salesman told me about them, but had none with this new sight in stock.
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Old January 11, 2020, 19:29   #7
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?? why port a 3" barrel . . . step up the bullet weight and reduce FPS till
you find one that doesn't produce alot of unwanted muz flip.

Got a Springfield Hellcat 9mm OSP couple weeks ago. Its small and its got FLIP. ( not as bad as a certain Kimber SOLO 9mm of past )
Started with 115gr, >124, >135, rem 147, > 150 UGH to much.
It was Rem 147gr that gave the most control / non flip.

I wouldn't mind seeing a little more grip meat in backstap area to
counter / xfer the recoil, a sleeve or detachable ?

Oh, my on the prices for (recommended) red dots on this.
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Old January 14, 2020, 10:17   #8
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I very seldom have use for a 3" 9mm. For the most part I carry full size duty pistols. A Commander size 1911 in 45 acp is about as compact as I want to carry. Thursday I will have a 1911 on my side when check into surgical center preop and a 380 compact in my pocket. Area of spine the doctor will be working on just have to take off shirts and body armor then put gown over my Levis. More than once have woken up from anesthesia to be helped off the table back into wheelchair and see a nice image of my 380 on the screen of the modern fluoroscope the doctor uses to guide the needles used to inject radio frequency burns to impinged areas of nerve where exit spine. I believe he does it to let me know I am not getting anything over on him and to show his staff even a pain patient that is being premedicated before sedation and then sent to recovery is safe to be armed.

I have multiple specialists of which many have signs saying "weapons free building" which is not recognized by Georgia law to keep people with a CCW/GWL from walking on in armed. Every doctor I have allows me to wear a duty pistol in office and are used to me having to remove belt with mag pouch and 1911 then shirt and body armor to do their examination. In fact more than half say they feel safer when I and some of their other patients are armed. I don't own any real compact 9mms. Have a fleet of Hi Powers and a few other 9mms mostly subguns but I can hide and handle an Officers Model size 45 as easily as a 9mm and have more confidence.

The Kimber Ultra RCP II 45 has no sights but just a groove milled down the center of the slide for sighting making it a great compact carry pistol which is totally dehorned without any sharp corners or crap to snag as draw from unique carry methods. The Robar R9 has a groove in place of sights as well a host of many other pistols over the years but this new take by SIG is very interesting.
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Old January 21, 2020, 18:24   #9
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I knew somewhere in the collection I had a low production number pistol with forerunner to this sighting system but have so many odd pistols from left hand Randall 1911s to HK VP70Z with burst system and many more I went on a search and found my ASP "Guttersnipe". They made less than 2,000 of which quite a few were purchased for use by U.S. Embassy personnel that needed an easy to hide and fast to run pistol when working in unfriendly nations.

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Fewer than 2,000 were ever made, probably as a function of its cost, as more than 250 custom procedures were needed to convert the standard Model 39 into what would become the first-ever real “pocket nine.” Those operations included chopping down the frame, then both shortening and lightening the slide, making a silver-soldered bushingless fit between barrel and slide, reshaping the trigger guard with a very aggressive hook and “Fitz Special” style thinning on its right-hand side, fitting custom see-through Lexan grips, and finally refinishing with a self-lubricating Teflon-S coating.]


There was a company that did a "tribute" model have seen people purposely or accidentally trying to represent as an original. If find one in a pawn shop be sure to verify it's a true original and not a tribute model. If see one that looks right and is under a grand I would buy on risk it may just be anot her butchered Smith rather than risk missing a deal taking time to consult the books for serial numbers, proof marks, etc. Have looked at a pistol, snapped a pic with phone, gone to truck and looked up to verify what I was looking at, how to confirm its legit and then walk back in and buy it. Messed up once and was doing this with truck parked at front door of pawn shop so owner got online and price tripled because I tipped him off pistol may be more than some kitchen table home smith job. He found same information I did and jacked it up to its market price rather than tagged price.



Had a friend who loved Smith 39s and 59s and though more of them than a Browning Hi Power or Colt 1911. I never had a penchant for them but the Guttersnipe fixed all their problems and more. This is one fine minor caliber pistol a man could stake his life on if needed a compact 9mm.

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The idea behind the trigger guard design was to make reaching the trigger faster — as it protrudes beyond the side of the guard — and allow the left index finger to really pull the gun isometrically, and thus manage recoil (the hook is much more deeply curved than all the pistols that today have copied the look). Most unusual of all was the ASP’s sighting system. Instead of a typical front and rear sight combo, Theodore added his “Guttersnipe” system. It was reminiscent of the trench Luke flies down in his X-Wing at the end of*Star Wars. The logic was to look down the three-sided “gutter” and when you see three triangles of the same size, you were locked on. The sighting system was one part of Theodore’s revolutionary “Quell” shooting system that had agents concentrate fire on the nervous system of the assailant — so as to “quell” the threat ASAP — and also fire their pistol with their head resting completely on the right shoulder while aiming with the left eye to minimize exposure of their nervous system to the enemy.
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