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Old March 07, 2019, 15:19   #1
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Hawaii Senate resolution 42 Petitions US Congress to repeal the BOR 2nd Amendment

Hawaii Senate resolution 42 Petitions US Congress to repeal the BOR 2nd Amendment



text of petition here --

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessi...lls/SCR42_.htm
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Old March 07, 2019, 15:25   #2
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Insanity.

Guess they just don't get it the 2nd amdt backups the 1st amdt.

Or since these are government servants of the people maybe they do get it.
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Old March 07, 2019, 23:20   #3
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Insanity.

Guess they just don't get it the 2nd amdt backups the 1st amdt.

Or since these are government servants of the people maybe they do get it.
yes, and what are the so-called "conservatives" going to do about it?



buckle.


like a belt.


that's what.
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yes, and what are the so-called "conservatives" going to do about it?
Are they going to get affected by it? If the answer is no...
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Old July 09, 2019, 11:58   #5
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Simple. Attach language to it that reverts them back to territorial status. The vote yes to implement,they lose senators and reps.
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Old July 09, 2019, 12:21   #6
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yes, and what are the so-called "conservatives" going to do about it?



buckle.


like a belt.


that's what.
1. what are you going to do about it?
2. what do you suggest others do about it?
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Old July 09, 2019, 19:08   #7
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Simple. Attach language to it that reverts them back to territorial status. The vote yes to implement,they lose senators and reps.
actually they are a kingdom, not a territory.

IIRC they have reserved the right to revert back.

texas being the other exception, with the distinction of independent nation status (republic).


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1. what are you going to do about it?
2. what do you suggest others do about it?

if you had been paying attention, then you would know that is already posted, go look it up yourself.

more ignorance/apathy not with standing.
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Old July 09, 2019, 21:14   #8
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actually they are a kingdom, not a territory.

IIRC they have reserved the right to revert back.

texas being the other exception, with the distinction of independent nation status (republic).





if you had been paying attention, then you would know that is already posted, go look it up yourself.

more ignorance/apathy not with standing.
What they are is a volcanic rock out in the middle of the ocean,that would make a dandy Chinese missile base. If they had half a brain,they'd arm every able-bodied person,and train them. Unless they like having their organs removed and sold to wealthy communist party insiders in need of spare parts.
Spears and spells ain't gonna do it.
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actually they are a kingdom, not a territory.

IIRC they have reserved the right to revert back.

texas being the other exception, with the distinction of independent nation status (republic).





if you had been paying attention, then you would know that is already posted, go look it up yourself.

more ignorance/apathy not with standing.
pretty sure Montana was given unique status as well

the deal was in the lead up to the War between the States just a pile of folks relocated there from Missouri due to losing farms to being allegedly disloyal and crap.
Those families headed up the Missouri to the western Gold Fields

More over the Union craved Montana Gold & Silver
as a result they were given a special status allowing them to leave the Union if so desired at any point in the future. Heard that for years from old folks out there but never truly researched it out.

seem to recall Utah might have special State status as well that was negotiated by the LDS
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pretty sure Montana was given unique status as well

the deal was in the lead up to the War between the States just a pile of folks relocated there from Missouri due to losing farms to being allegedly disloyal and crap.
Those families headed up the Missouri to the western Gold Fields

More over the Union craved Montana Gold & Silver
as a result they were given a special status allowing them to leave the Union if so desired at any point in the future. Heard that for years from old folks out there but never truly researched it out.

seem to recall Utah might have special State status as well that was negotiated by the LDS
sure other states and common wealths may have reserved opt-out clauses,
the amish for instance,
but there are only two with pre-existing legal status, reserved by default, one a kingdom, the other a (constitutional) republic.

that as distinct from the various stone age american tribes -- are those are all still independent nations; which are all perfectly legit, and frankly the way it rightly ought to be done for all the rest of us.
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sure other states and common wealths may have reserved opt-out clauses,
the amish for instance,
but there are only two with pre-existing legal status, reserved by default one a kingdom, the other a (constitutional) republic.

that as distinct from the various stone age american tribes -- are those are all still independent nations.
Okay, I get what you are stating
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Hawaii gov signs into law Redflag anticonstitutional no due process disarmament / extra legal ERPO denial of 2A rights, also deletes the 2A rights of 18, 19 an 20 year olds .

just remember the fudd catechism -- "this does not affect me, therefore not my problem"

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What they are is a volcanic rock out in the middle of the ocean,that would make a dandy Chinese missile base. If they had half a brain,they'd arm every able-bodied person,and train them. Unless they like having their organs removed and sold to wealthy communist party insiders in need of spare parts.
Spears and spells ain't gonna do it.
Actually being disarmed will save them from being executed in the event china
attacks. On the other hand arm them all.....
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actually they are a kingdom, not a territory.
Hawai’i never was a state. Nor was it a legal territory. It remains a sovereign kingdom. The illegal overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy by industrialists was in violation of the US Constitution. It was opposed by the US president, and USMC. Ergo, calling it a state and adding a star to the flag does not make it a US state.

Legally speaking, Hawai’i has no power to do anything with US law.
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Hawai’i never was a state. Nor was it a legal territory. It remains a sovereign kingdom. The illegal overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy by industrialists was in violation of the US Constitution. It was opposed by the US president, and USMC. Ergo, calling it a state and adding a star to the flag does not make it a US state.

Legally speaking, Hawai’i has no power to do anything with US law.
"Hawai’i" is anglicization/english translation of the name of big island land mass;
over written by the incorporated state of Hawaii, the people of which as represented by 2 fed senators and 2 fed congress reps, as authorized under the federal superstate, legally speaking.

refer to my previous post re "nations".
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Actually being disarmed will save them from being executed in the event china
attacks. On the other hand arm them all.....
Being dis-armed doesn't even save Chinese people from having their organs harvested. I suspect China would surgically "cleanse" that island chain clean of anything that ain't a full-bore communist Chinese.
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I don't care if they are a kingdom, a state, or ground zero for a huge volcanic eruption. Anybody who thinks Congress can change the Bill Of Rights like it was some simple piece of legislation is too stupid to waste time thinking about.
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If we let Hawaii go, China will take it over by flooding in Chinese and use it as a base; killing and enslaving the idiotic residents, as they should be treated.

Likely the Chinese are doing it anyway.
They would take Guam, Tinian, Midway, too, after the Phillipines collapse.

We should let Puerto Rico go too, and let Cuba/Venezuela take it commie. They deserve the trouble. PR is actually part of Venezuelan territorial waters.
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Apparently the Einsteins in Hawwwaya are ignorant of the Constitution and where individual rights actually emulate from. Congress doesn't grant rights, nor can congress take away rights. In fact, the first ten amendments in the BORs are individual rights that government cannot eliminate. Does govt. violate those rights? Yes they do! And its the fault of lazy, complacent, citizens that allow the govt. to do so.
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