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Old June 14, 2019, 15:17   #1
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Wingmasters!

I posted these in the “Show me Some Wood” thread, but thought I’d post them here in with the Shotties. As you can see, I'm a sucker for the Wingmasters!

Top one is an 870 Wingmaster that I've had since I got it new when I was 12 (1975ish). Blued finish w/ TB walnut trap stock and 28" fixed modified barrel.

The lower one is an ex-LE 870 Wingmaster I bought from 308shooter here on the Files. I was amazed at how nice the parked metal finish was once I cleaned it up. It has a nice 26" Remchoke barrel and I added some nice late 70's vintage walnut to dress it up.









The last one is another 870 Wingmaster from 308shooter. This one has a 30" FC barrel and has an awesome even patina. The walnut furniture is pretty worn out so I was going to refinish the whole thing. But the patina is so cool I think I'm going to pick up a vintage LE stock for it and add an 18” IC barrel To make a unique looking home defense gun. We'll see.



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Old June 14, 2019, 15:33   #2
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I really like them as well.

I have a February first year production that is only marked '870', not 'Wingmaster'. Barrel is serialed to the receiver.



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Old June 14, 2019, 16:18   #3
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Used to tote one of these in the Gran Fury, and the occasional Malibu.

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Old June 14, 2019, 16:21   #4
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I love 'em. The first gun I ever bought and paid for myself when I was 14 or so was a 12 ga Wingmaster and I still have it.
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Old June 14, 2019, 16:51   #5
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Fine shotguns- they certainly don’t make them like they used to, unfortunately.
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Old June 14, 2019, 19:04   #6
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I still have my Wingmaster that I bought new in 1970 at Beikirchs in Rochester, NY. The total was $105 for the shotgun with a smooth bore slug barrel, a case of clay birds and several boxes of of birdshot ammo. It has put lots of meat in the freezer and now looks like a well used canoe paddle but still very slick operating. The newer ones are not so slick but is the only pump shotgun I would ever recommend to anyone and I would suggest they look for an older one.
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Old June 15, 2019, 15:59   #7
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Nice Wingmasters Harley! I bought one on sale at Target ~1980, nice SG, still own it. A lot of the older WM's had nice wood stocks, but yours are "very" nice! Busted a bunch of clays with that SG back in the day....
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Old June 15, 2019, 16:41   #8
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Lovely 870's and walnut.
First shotgun I bought with moneys earned from my own labors was a 20 gauge - 3 inch magnum Wingmaster circa 1977 (I was 11) and it replaced a single shot .410 I had been hunting with.
I recall it was $210 total from Dunham's at 12 Oaks Mall in Farmington Hills, MI.
My dad and grandfather oftentimes took me hunting for ducks, geese, pheasants and small game.
Unlike a lot of youse guys, mine is long gone...as are many 870's that have passed through my hands.
Still have one, bought here, by the bed for things that go bump in the night.
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Old June 17, 2019, 19:33   #9
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I've still got my vintage, very nice 870 20 gauge that rests next to the Ithaca and Browning 20's. A nice shotgun, indeed.


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Old November 11, 2019, 11:01   #10
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Nice Wingmasters Harley.

I have been considering buying my first shotgun. Never owned one before. I have been bitten by the bug though, I cannot stop browsing through GB and drooling... I mean doing critical research as to what I might want to buy as my first SG. I actually have been thinking about it for a long time. I definitely want a Wingmaster.

I am mid fifties and have had shoulder surgery on both shoulders (years ago). So I think it would be in my best interest in getting 20ga. I want to get a semi auto after that. Maybe either a Mossy 590A1 or a Remmy 1100
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Old November 12, 2019, 14:52   #11
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needafal, I believe you do not brace a shotgun against your shoulder. So you might be OK, but don't trust what I say since I have not shot one in going 3 years.

Also, there are smaller length shotgun shells (2.5 and 1 3/8") for 12ga; pump action shotguns can take both. I do know from personal experience the 2.5" worked find in a 870 and a 1887 clone. While maybe the 20ga will be fine, don't take the 12ga ones out of the race just yet.
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I believe you do not brace a shotgun against your shoulder.
I believe you are very incorrect in that statement for 95% of most shotgun shooting purposes.
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I wouldnt trust shorty shells in an 870. Some try them in Mossys but they use a little spacer thing.

Also, if you care to reload (and I dont blame you if you dont) one can roll some very soft 12 ga that are equivalent to 20 ga.
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Hey Byron. I understand you point. But if it is chambered in 20, there should be no issues, right? (I mean about putting short shells in chamber).

I reload for 45, 243, 308/ So setting for SG would need need new tooling. Gotta wait to see how I like it and how often I go, to warrant new tooling and begging forgiveness from the wifey to have a whole new "stupid piece of crap" on my work bench.
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Old November 13, 2019, 06:25   #15
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I wouldnt trust shorty shells in an 870.
I've had great experience with short shells in buckshot flavor.
Have used them in several 870's with no problem, just rack the slide forcefully, as usual.

I trust the 870/short shell combo enough to keep it around for repelling night attacks...extended magazine - no plug.

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I have no direct experience with shorties in an 870, but was interested in them at one point. Did some interweb research and read more than a couple reviews of occasional feed issues. I gather it was due to the long jump from the rear of the lifter up into the chamber. Maybe some experiences vary. My acceptance criteria will be absolutely no reliability impact. A reliable 870 (almost all of them) is a dream. 870 misfeeds, however, can be difficult to clear. Being a short range weapon, that is a very big problem.

Id rather find a source for 7/8 oz 12 ga loads than try to run minis or go down in gauge. I realize that doesnt make up for the potential capacity increase of using shorties.
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Wifey and I have sent many a water filled milk jug to kingdom come with the short buckshot loads.

Good for a shower at close range on a hot summer day.
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I believe you are very incorrect in that statement for 95% of most shotgun shooting purposes.
I stand corrected! First time I shot a shotgun I was shouted (not told) to not hold it like a rifle.
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I stand corrected! First time I shot a shotgun I was shouted (not told) to not hold it like a rifle.
My guess is what they meant to tell you was to not to "sight it" like a rifle, which is what throws off many rifle shooters trying to shoot clays or birds. I've shot doves for many many years and got into sporting clays this past year. I still struggle with this myself at times. Look at the bird, not the barrel.

You still must "hold it" like a rifle (seated firmly on your shoulder) or you will get the same battering as you get when you don't hold a rifle firmly to your shoulder.
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I really like them as well.

I have a February first year production that is only marked '870', not 'Wingmaster'. Barrel is serialed to the receiver.



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I have an April first year, same-same. I bought it for $100 because the barrel was bulged, so I chopped it.
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I'm a sucker for them too. Dad got me a Wingmaster with 28" vent rib barrel for Christmas when I was 16 in 86. I still love that shotgun. I picked up another well worn Wingmaster at a local shop for 150$. I replaced the barrel with an 18.5" and painted it with bake on flat black enamel and it lives next to my bed now for things that go bump in the night.
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Ohio National Guard issued Wingmaster from the 1970's. These were sold to the public by a distributor around two years ago... turned out to be one of the more significant surplus scores of the past decade. As I understand it, this is the only post Vietnam era US Military service issued shotgun to end up in civilian hands.



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^ I like the ONG 870.

Here's mine. It's vintage, so no flexi-tab and it's 2 3/4 only. I have all the stuff to put it back to its original configuration if I want. In this picture, it actually has a Mossberg 870 barrel.

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Blasty little carbine.....



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Blasty little carbine.....



Nice. I'm a sucker for LEO folders. For whatever it is worth, it would behoove you to find the front swivel clamp doohickey to support the magazine extension (it had one, but missing for whatever reason).
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