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Old November 28, 2019, 10:07   #1
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Propeller Aircrafts: What Makes Them so Cool, Amazing and PRETTY?

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The props I guess.

That's why I find the C-130 pretty.....LOL

And the cannons and guns too, of course.





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Old November 28, 2019, 10:08   #2
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Here the A400 props look like they are not even running:

So cool!





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Old November 28, 2019, 10:10   #3
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The antonovs have stacked double props.
I wonder if they are more efficient than single props?







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Old November 28, 2019, 10:12   #4
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I like the blue props.....for eye-candy purposes:







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Catching Prop vortices are a bonus.

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Old November 28, 2019, 10:18   #6
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One of the deadliest propeller military planes in existence
....probably the only one left, don't know:







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Old November 28, 2019, 10:23   #7
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I used to like riding on Beechcraft King Airs and 1900s.

Wish I could still get on one of those and go see my mom and dad and their little dog on Thanksgiving.
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Old November 28, 2019, 17:54   #8
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Douglas A-1 Skyraider, great plane for supporting ground troops in VN...

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Old November 28, 2019, 18:37   #9
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Love the prop planes...
Spent a few years getting rides in Hercs...Bumpy bastards.
Love flying in the piper guide planes, and lil cessna 152 a friend had.

My Grandfather was a test pilot for Consolidated in Texas and died testing a version of the B24.
Wife's grandfather was a B17 Radio operator during the war.

Ive chased piston driven aircraft around the country for years.

There is really just something about the ole prop planes that still lights up the imagination. It makes us feel like a little boy in the yard holding a toy airplane.
The skies the limit and bravery is still king.
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Old November 28, 2019, 20:03   #10
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My big props were the Beech 1900 and the EMB-120....
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At age 18 I flew from McGuire AFB in New Jersey to Rhein Mein AFB in Frankfurt, West Germany in a USAF C-54 CargoMaster aka the DC-4. It made refueling stops in Canada and Prestwick, Scotland.

In Vietnam I was a passenger in C-130's, a C-123, a C-47, and flew to Taiwan for R&R on a China Air Transport aka Flying Tigers DC-6. Slow compared to the Boeing 707 and Douglas DC-8 but the prop jobs looked like and sounded like real aircraft.

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My start in warbirds

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Old November 29, 2019, 06:22   #13
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The antonovs have stacked double props.
I wonder if they are more efficient than single props?-
Possibly. Soviets (at the time) got lots of experience with this arrangement in their famous bomber. Supposedly it was loud inside the cabin, but had very good range.
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Most you guys don’t get it.

Big, round, loud is where it’s at. Corn cobbs!

Stoney knows what I’m talking about.

Remember standing on the access road at the department end of the McChord AFB runway with C-124s taking off, low, slow and full power loud!

There was a reason they called it “Ol’ Shakey”

Dad was a round engine guy in the Air Force and growing up I listened to most of what the military used in the 50s and 60s. Never got to see the B-36.
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FROM flying in the same type of plane (Chance Voight Corsair) that my uncle piloted for me it's one word nostalgia.

Dont know his squadron number but the prefix was VMF.
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FROM flying in the same type of plane (Chance Voight Corsair) that my uncle piloted for me it's one word nostalgia.

Dont know his squadron number but the prefix was VMF.
VMF was the standard prefix for any Marine Fighter Squadron.
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When I was a little kid (5) and lived on my granddad's farm at times you'd here this sound which was unique. Even though high there was no doubt it was a B-36.
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I was wondering if there's a preference between piston power vs turboprop.
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Round vs turbines

Those magnificent tubins start by flicking the switch and waiting for a guage to obtain an acceptable whine. Then the pilot moves a lever and a small poof more whine and its ready. Non climatic but modern.
The round motors require caressing and an inspection for readiness. Several applications of the primer pump, set the controls and engage the starter. When enough blades pass by the attentive pilot will switch on the mags. After some shaking and a few explosions the round motor will shake itself to a reasonable idle, all the while those behind the motor are masked in enough oily smoke ot hide a city block. Then the alert pilot will advance the throttle a little and then the other 4 or 5 cylinders roar to life. That'll have used 3 gal of highly leaded fuel and a gallon of oil called 120 weight. Enough excitement to keep the pilots awake.
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Most you guys don’t get it.

Big, round, loud is where it’s at. Corn cobbs!

Stoney knows what I’m talking about.
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Although I’ve got plenty of time in my book, it’s nothing compared to the likes of Stoney and his ilk.
I knew from my first memories that I was born to fly. After seeing my first C-124 pass overhead when I was a First Grade kid living right by Tinker AFB, I was hooked.
Then growing up in the high arctic and being surrounded by the daily realities of northern aviation, it was nirvana for this airplane nut. During the short summers, I spent every spare moment down at the seaplane docks, doing menial tasks, just to be around aircraft.
It was a short leap for me, once I had my tickets, to move back north and jump fight in. I knew the guys, knew the order of things, and knew that jet fuel was the smelly stuff used in lanterns and diesel trucks.
I got lucky. C-185, C-206, DHC-3, C-46. Everyone started on the 185, and so did I. Not having a float endorsement was a huge black mark, but it gave me the chance to be in the right place at the right time to grab an open 46 spot.

Massive, awesome memories, but I’d have traded every single one for the opportunity to do what I did, but in C-7s in SEA surrounded with guys like Stoney and others I’ve known over the years. I was born 18 years too late
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I have always had a soft spot for the 985's. We ran them on the Stearman dusters, loved watching those start up and belch flames in the pre-dawn light


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I was born 18 years too late

I hear you there, I didn't fly much but grew up in aviation, got a little right seat time as a teenager in a Beech 18 (former C 45 converted air ambulance) that my dad was flying and a few years working on 450 Stearman dusters (mixing, loading and maintenance). Just caught the tail end of the glory days, got to hang around the old classic tankers, B17, PB4Y, A26 etc. The west end of MFR is no longer recognizable, the old tin hangar city and cool old FBOs are all gone.
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I never went to SEA, I flew the Boo in the Marshall islands along with the C-54 for the Army as a civilian at the Pacific missile range.
My dad flew out of Kwajalein for a couple years in Sherpas. He said the money was good but hated sharing quarters...


Did you happen to fly with a guy named Ron Coles? He flew in the Pacific as a contractor for a number of years.
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I have always had a soft spot for the 985's. We ran them on the Stearman dusters, loved watching those start up and belch flames in the pre-dawn light


Yeah ---- until you have to hand prop one

At 5'9", 130 pounds sopping wet - I could almost do chin ups on the prop.. That Pratt and I had words. MANY words. Always managed to wake it up, though ( after it decided to have pity on me ).
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Yeah ---- until you have to hand prop one

At 5'9", 130 pounds sopping wet - I could almost do chin ups on the prop.. That Pratt and I had words. MANY words. Always managed to wake it up, though ( after it decided to have pity on me ).
I have hand propped them a few times and didn't mind it. I had a bit more ballast than you
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Yeah ---- until you have to hand prop one

At 5'9", 130 pounds sopping wet - I could almost do chin ups on the prop.. That Pratt and I had words. MANY words. Always managed to wake it up, though ( after it decided to have pity on me ).
Try working with a couple guys pulling through a 2800 on a -30 day with a 20 kt wind cutting through your arctic clothes. Even though they’ve been on the Herman Nelson for a while, they still turn hard. You can’t do them when I heated because you’ll fubar the gearbox, never mind the engine itself.
And on stops, you have a choice: keep the starboard side running and risk fouling the plugs, or shut them both down and risk being marooned.

What a fukked up way to make a living. LOL

A couple 985s on a Model 18 in South Florida sounds like a dream caper to me.
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You guys all love the fast fighters and such. I love the pioneers. The guys two generations before me who did the same thing, but with the Official Northern Canadian Bird, the ubiquitous Fokker Super Universal. Basically special built for the Canadian North by Tony Fokker’s Company, construction was the same as the WW.1 Fokkers: steel tube fuselages and wood wings. All fabric covered. Pratt 985s on the nose of every single one. Super tough airplane, the only way to kill them was to kill yourself along with it. Call me a hopeless romantic, but northern aviation is in my blood.

These guys were made of iron grit. Pussies like me would have never made it, or probably died trying.
The smiles on the families faces when you kicked off their supplies made it all worthwhile. Even in my time the smiles were the same.

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That last pic might be the remains of a Fairchild 71C, basically a smaller Fokker looking type with the same engine.
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“A couple 985s on a Model 18 in South Florida sounds like a dream caper to me.”

What sounds better than an R985?

TWO R-985s......
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What sounds better than an R985?

TWO R-985s......
AMEN! Preach it, Brother!
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What sounds better than an R985?

TWO R-985s......
Hell yes!


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Speaking of radials. Before I was I school my dad stopped at a grass strip to look at a Cessna T-50. Obviously later I would watch Sky King Saturday mornings. They had the Jacobs R-755. Looks like over 50 are still on the FAA registry.
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If I had the money, I always thought these were good looking airplanes. The civie "warbirds are getting rare. Always liked the Howard series and the On Mark B-26s.
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Hell yes!


Everytime I see this act I'm expecting it to fold up like a book.

I know he limits his G's, yadda, yadda, yadda, but to me it's seriously ballzy to do those routines in a freaking multi engine transport.
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Everytime I see this act I'm expecting it to fold up like a book.

I know he limits his G's, yadda, yadda, yadda, but to me it's seriously ballzy to do those routines in a freaking multi engine transport.
I have a good friend that got busted by his employer for doing rolls in a P3 Orion....he was talking about it over beers one day....shocked that he rolled something that big he responded "I have rolled everything I have flown except the PBY"....pressing him a little further I asked if he rolled the Guppy..."all I'm going to say is I have rolled everything I have flown except the PBY" and that's all he would say about that.

I was on a test flight with him flying and me and another guy in the back of a C90 King Air on a test flight after working on it. We didn't bother to strap in, there was some loose light medical gear on the stretcher....felt him dive a bit...knew what was coming and braced my hand against the roof. He did a perfect positive g roll to the right....his co-pilot (who also happened to be my CFI) looked back and told him we weren't strapped in....so he did 2 more to the left....not a single piece of the gear in that plane moved. That guy is a smooth stick, he has given me a few good rides in a Stearman as well.

Amazing what a good pilot can do with a big airplane...
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While anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size knows that the Corsair was, and likely will always be, the prettiest thing ever to take flight, I have a small fascination with the early days of commercial air travel as well, and have always wanted to take a flight in a Ford Tri-motor. Knowing how large even the smallest commercial jets are these days (i.e. the smaller Embraers and other commuters) I can't fathom a cross-country jaunt behind 3 radials at a then blistering 90mph pace. That would make it near 10 hours just across Texas, which I can ALMOST do in my vehicle these days. Had to be quite an adventure...

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There were 17 Howard 500s built. Two are flying. I was watching this one in Chandler, Az. Had a full exec interior still. She met her end last year.
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When I first saw her.
It is amazing what a 'nose' job can do for some girls! LOL

For one of the prettiest prop planes I have ever seen is the stagger wing Beech's.
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I have many fond memories skydiving out of a Twin Beech, and Jon's red and white DC-3 (Mr. Douglas). Dang, now that I mention it, that DC-3 was beautiful. That big ol' fat whale's tail was something to see.

Then there was the Twin Otter. Oh, and the Helio Stallion. Now, that was a serious flying machine. Like climbing into a fast elevator. That pilot would turn that Stallion upside down once the last man left the aircraft and almost beat us to the ground too.

Those were the days.
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