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Old September 06, 2019, 11:59   #1
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Trouble with strippers.

I live behind enemy lines in NY. In order to legally enjoy my SAR-48 and not have to register it I had to fix the mag in place. That was easy. I added a DSA stripper clip para mount and figured all was well. I haven't shot it since the mods.

Today I figured I would finally do a function check. I broke down and ripped open a sealed can of Aussie on bandoliers and strippers. I got to the range, racked the bolt and couldn't get more then a couple of rounds loaded from the clips. I can manually top off the 10 round mag with individual rounds but the strippers were useless. Sometimes the whole stripper clip would go into the mag which requires dropping the floor plate to get it out.

What gives? Is it a problem with the Aussie strippers? They are a little rough. I feel like they just took my money and left me hanging? Good news is the gun ran like a champ and even shot pretty decent groups. I love the Aussy ammo but hate their beer and strippers.
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Old September 06, 2019, 13:51   #2
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There have been complaints over the years about the Aussie strippers when used in stripper clip guides that aren't Aussie. The park on the strippers seem to be a bit thicker than other .308 stripper. Some people have had luck buffing some of the thick park away. Have you tried other stripper clips? If so, do they work okay?
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Old September 06, 2019, 14:30   #3
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Is it a problem with the Aussie strippers? They are a little rough. I feel like they just took my money and left me hanging? I love the Aussy ammo but hate their beer and strippers.







Look like standard Sheilas to me, no problems, sport.
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Old September 06, 2019, 15:00   #4
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Soooo disappointed in this thread, kinda misleading if you ask me!

As above either buff the stripper where the case rides or buy others.
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Old September 06, 2019, 15:13   #5
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Thanks guys. I have only tried the Aussie strippers. I will try out some US strippers if I cant get the Aussies to work

Off to buff some strippers. Will probably polish my sword when I'm done.

It's been a while since I've been around here. I'm feeling nostalgic for the golden age of FAL building.
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Old September 06, 2019, 15:17   #6
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Yeah....I hate it when they come back after 9 months and say "you're the dad"


Srupid strippers.
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Old September 06, 2019, 16:41   #7
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My Aussie chargers will often go through the guide and into the magazine after a couple of uses. Seems as the finish and maybe the metal wears down, they no longer fit well enough to stay in place reliably. I have yet to have this happen to a fresh Aussie charger. This is using a Belgian charger guide top cover. I also find that I have to use my fingers to help guide the cartridges or they tend to want to rotate out of line one way or the other (which I suspect is why the horeshoe style chargers were developed for the T48 and I think the Brits as well).
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Old September 07, 2019, 10:09   #8
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Ive some reused Many times without issue, but I also use mag loaders, not a top cover.

Original factory packed F4 rounds can be held pretty stiff,,,giving each round in the stripper a quick rotation with thumb and forefinger takes but a few seconds and usually results in flawless performance for my use.
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Old September 07, 2019, 10:21   #9
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A hefty stack of dollar bills usually smooths out problems with strippers.

I never had good luck with the Strayan 7.62 stripper clips. Very rough parkerizing. USGI or even Chicom strippers have worked great.
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Old September 07, 2019, 17:47   #10
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Less fun, but more accurate to call them "chargers"

I use chargers to load several .30-06/.308 bolt action rifles, I believe I have used them a few times on an "Inch" FAL with a Canadian charger-guide topcover.

The absolute best chargers for bolt action rifles are aftermarket chargers made from Stainless, and offered through the vendors at Camp Perry. I keep two in the butt trap of each of my 1903 and 1917 rifles. These look like the chargers used with Mausers and like those 7.62x51 came on:
http://www.champchoice.com/store/Mai...s&item=STC20SS

I see a lot of positive comments regarding Swedish chargers for their 6.5x55, used with .30/.308 ammo, so I tried them. The 6.5x55 case head is actually a little bigger in diameter than the '06, but .30/.308 cartridges don't feed worth a darn through the several dozen NIB Swedish surplus chargers I have bought from various vendors. The Swedish chargers are beautifully nickel pated.

There are lots for chargers for Mausers, most of them having the same case head design as .30-'06. I did not have good results, probably just because they'r abused and old. Brass ones from Argentina gave me the most problems.

A lot of chargers I have seen with MilSurp ammo have been heavily reparkerized and reused. Greek .30 HXP and various sorts of .303 immediately come to mind. Emery cloth rubbing the engaging surfaces, then cleaning is something I have done. I have used lubricants that will not kill primers, such as Imperial sizing die wax. I have just re-used them a bunch of times. I believe British Commonwealth soldiers using Lee-Enfield rifles used each of these methods to achieve the remarkable round-per-minute counts they got with charger-loaded rifles.

Technique is important also. It is important to have your thumbnail as close to the spring on the top of the charger as possible.

I have a batch of the Aussie ammo, but have not fired any of it.
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Old September 07, 2019, 20:54   #11
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I use chargers to load several .30-06/.308 bolt action rifles, I believe I have used them a few times on an "Inch" FAL with a Canadian charger-guide topcover.

The absolute best chargers for bolt action rifles are aftermarket chargers made from Stainless, and offered through the vendors at Camp Perry. I keep two in the butt trap of each of my 1903 and 1917 rifles. These look like the chargers used with Mausers and like those 7.62x51 came on:
http://www.champchoice.com/store/Mai...s&item=STC20SS

I see a lot of positive comments regarding Swedish chargers for their 6.5x55, used with .30/.308 ammo, so I tried them. The 6.5x55 case head is actually a little bigger in diameter than the '06, but .30/.308 cartridges don't feed worth a darn through the several dozen NIB Swedish surplus chargers I have bought from various vendors. The Swedish chargers are beautifully nickel pated.

There are lots for chargers for Mausers, most of them having the same case head design as .30-'06. I did not have good results, probably just because they'r abused and old. Brass ones from Argentina gave me the most problems.

A lot of chargers I have seen with MilSurp ammo have been heavily reparkerized and reused. Greek .30 HXP and various sorts of .303 immediately come to mind. Emery cloth rubbing the engaging surfaces, then cleaning is something I have done. I have used lubricants that will not kill primers, such as Imperial sizing die wax. I have just re-used them a bunch of times. I believe British Commonwealth soldiers using Lee-Enfield rifles used each of these methods to achieve the remarkable round-per-minute counts they got with charger-loaded rifles.

Technique is important also. It is important to have your thumbnail as close to the spring on the top of the charger as possible.

I have a batch of the Aussie ammo, but have not fired any of it.
Mauser chargers of any type are a no-go. Will fall right through the guide on a FAL. The FAL uses NATO chargers, which are wider.
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Old September 07, 2019, 20:55   #12
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Ive some reused Many times without issue, but I also use mag loaders, not a top cover.

Original factory packed F4 rounds can be held pretty stiff,,,giving each round in the stripper a quick rotation with thumb and forefinger takes but a few seconds and usually results in flawless performance for my use.
Never had a problem with them in a magazine loader. But if one does, it's not a big deal, unlike if charger-loading is your primary means of loading the rifle (like it is for me, being in CA).
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Old September 08, 2019, 06:41   #13
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Never had a problem with them in a magazine loader. But if one does, it's not a big deal, unlike if charger-loading is your primary means of loading the rifle (like it is for me, being in CA).

So,,youve also had no issue with said clips when used in a loader.

Ya think maybe your top cover is more at issue then, rather then the clips ?

I would think maybe you could try compressing the guide part some in a vise for a better fit,,unless its one of those aluminum ones.
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So,,youve also had no issue with said clips when used in a loader.

Ya think maybe your top cover is more at issue then, rather then the clips ?

I would think maybe you could try compressing the guide part some in a vise for a better fit,,unless its one of those aluminum ones.
Only the Aussie ones have issues after some usage. U.S. ones and others fit fine. I have a Belgian alloy cover. Not sure I want to mess with it that way.
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I got rid of all my Aussie chargers as soon as the ammo was gone. The wouldn't work reliably in any loader I had. Since I have a lot of USGI chargers, I use them exclusively. No issues with any rifle that takes them. As far as the 03, 1917 and some other bolt guns, the chargers meant for use with the 7.62X51 ammo has the little tabs in different places. These tabs control how far down the charger will fit in the guide, which will keep them from working properly in the other style of charger.

Typical bolt gun charger (1903)


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With a thread title like that I had to check in, it could have gone either way!!
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With a thread title like that I had to check in, it could have gone either way!!
Me too. I was soooo disappointed. LOL
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because they wont give change for a $20
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... they never have change for dollar?

Edit: just noticed that I was beaten to the punch on this one ...
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