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Old October 21, 2019, 05:29   #1
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NJ governor bans sale of insurance to gun owners

Another move to try to make firearm ownership so difficult, it is essentially a total repeal of the 2A in NJ:

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/...to-gun-owners/

Dangerous and unconstitutional: NJ governor bans sale of insurance to gun owners

Just when we thought that no one could out do California or New York in the category of idiotic gun-control measure, in walks New Jersey. Here is their latest attempt to circumvent the 2nd Amendment and discourage responsible gun use by trying to make self-defense too costly a choice.

We’re just learning about an executive order that the governor issued in September that effectively banned the sale of insurance products that provide liability coverage to gun owners making it virtually impossible for concealed carry holders in New Jersey to get coverage.

Governor Phil Murphy’s order specifically said the state should, within 30 days, take all appropriate action “to prohibit and/or limit the sale, procurement, marketing, or distribution of insurance products that may serve to encourage the improper use of firearms,” according to a press release from the governor’s office.

As a result of this latest bout with lunacy, the U.S. Concealed Carry Association (USCCA) announced in early October that it would have to:

“Pull their services off the shelf for New Jersey gun owners.”

While USCCA, and other groups like them, is not an insurance company, the organization (of which I am a member) does offer concealed-carry liability insurance to its members in the event they are compelled to use their weapons in self-defense.

The problem is that states like New Jersey want to regulate organizations like USCCA because they list their membership as “beneficiaries” of their coverage, the press release explained.

And for that reason, they’re regulated by the state much like an insurance company.

That means that USCCA had no choice but to pull out of New Jersey or risk doing battle with the state’s Attorney General’s Office.

The governor’s press release proudly touted a consent order for a $1 million fine against one such company that had encouraged “the improper use of firearms,” according to New Jersey’s standard.

“Last week, the New Jersey Department of Banking and Insurance announced that Lockton Affinity, LLC agreed to pay a $1 million fine as part of a consent order with the department for administering a National Rifle Association-sponsored insurance program in violation of state insurance laws,” the release said.

It went on to justify the attack.

“An investigation by the department found that Kansas-based Lockton Affinity violated various state laws and regulations in administering the Carry Guard insurance program in New Jersey on behalf of the NRA. Offering an insurance product marketed by the NRA that encourages firearm use is a serious violation of public policy and today’s executive order takes steps to limit such policies’ availability in the State.”

Carry Guard insurance was created and marketed to be self-defense coverage for lawful gun carriers but anti-gun activists labeled it “murder insurance” and that’s exactly how the state treated it.

Murphy’s executive order also directed state officials to ask all gun makers or retailers to reveal whether they have adopted best practices to reduce gun violence, and to find out how they screen for straw purchasers, firearms traffickers, and people who have been banned from owning or purchasing firearms.

“This is not intended at day one to be an adversarial act,” the governor said. “This is to express a broad statement of principles and values that matter to us deeply.”

The governor’s office said the New Jersey Department of Banking and Insurance would scrutinize all liability insurance offered in the state that encouraged the improper use of firearms.

However, the executive order did not define what the state considered “improper use of firearms” other than its obvious objection to concealed carry.

This order eliminates the financial protection that groups like USCCA afford law-abiding citizens of New Jersey. Anyone who uses a weapon to defend themselves, wounding or killing an assailant, will likely face a criminal trial, a wrongful-death civil suit, or both. The battles they face are not easy and they certainly are not cheap.
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Old October 21, 2019, 08:54   #2
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The question is who is stunad enough to want to move to New Jersey that lived in California or any other corrupt shitholes like California ?

Jersey should also have a wall around it with the mentally the politicians have there.

Snake Pliskin escape from NEW YORK style.
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Old October 21, 2019, 11:52   #3
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What's next? Yellow stars?
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Old October 21, 2019, 12:08   #4
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It really is too bad so many of these valuable institutions have closed down...

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Old October 21, 2019, 12:24   #5
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It really is too bad so many of these valuable institutions have closed down...

The previous inmates have been relocated in State and Federal governments...

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Hang that mother fukkah! I swear, they need to be hit with a 300' tsunami.

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Old October 21, 2019, 16:31   #7
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So, why is no one suing that POS governor?

All this unconstitutional crap going on state by state and all the NRA ever does is send me mailing asking for more money! What the hell is the NRA good for?
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So, why is no one suing that POS governor?

All this unconstitutional crap going on state by state and all the NRA ever does is send me mailing asking for more money! What the hell is the NRA good for?
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Old October 21, 2019, 18:04   #9
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What about insurance for law enforcement personnel (current or former) personal firearms?

NJ law enforcement agency owns firearms. Who insures them?
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What about insurance for law enforcement personnel (current or former) personal firearms?

NJ law enforcement agency owns firearms. Who insures them?
If its like the City I worked for, the City does... meaning the tax payers do. My City employer went self-insured years ago due to skyrocketing premiums.
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If its like the City I worked for, the City does... meaning the tax payers do. My City employer went self-insured years ago due to skyrocketing premiums.
Also, if the taxpayers pay for the cop insurance, its value can be infinity. Just raise taxes
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So, why is no one suing that POS governor?

All this unconstitutional crap going on state by state and all the NRA ever does is send me mailing asking for more money! What the hell is the NRA good for?
Well in our state they are suing the City of Boulder for banning assault weapons.

Among that they are doing all these cases in other states:

https://www.nradefensefund.org/current-litigation.aspx
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Old October 29, 2019, 22:08   #13
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Washington State recently did a similar thing for carry insurance. Some sort of circular talk about insuring potential criminals....The WA state insurance commissioner was on a talk radio show trying to defend his actions....what a POS


https://www.insurance.wa.gov/news/kr...s-fines-177000
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Washington State recently did a similar thing for carry insurance. Some sort of circular talk about insuring potential criminals....The WA state insurance commissioner was on a talk radio show trying to defend his actions....what a POS


https://www.insurance.wa.gov/news/kr...s-fines-177000
So anyone carrying a firearm is a criminal.........
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Old October 30, 2019, 06:29   #15
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For everyone's sake, they (Dems) need to stop, poking the bear.
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