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Old October 21, 2019, 10:46   #1101
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State of affairs on EMP. The swamp creatures are fighting to make sure no one does anything. If EMP is "fake science", why does the DOD go to the lengths it does to harden systems?
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Old October 21, 2019, 11:29   #1102
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All fine and dandy...until the next ultra solar coronal ejaculation.
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Old October 25, 2019, 19:52   #1103
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A side idea has crossed my mind about EMP or maybe more in the line of signal jamming. I now own several of the ATN night vision scopes with tons of onboard electronics from auto ranging, compensating for uphill or downhill shots, some with video recording, Bluetooth and more. How easy would it be for DARPA to develop an in field tool a special ops team could activate and shut down the electronics in all night vision devices that do not have a very specialized shielding that only allow their devices to continue functioning once they push the button.

I believe we likely have drones that can go on station above an operation that not only take out the enemies communications but likey as I am thinking an enemies night vision and other electronic devices while allowing our teams devices to work 100%. How bad would it suck if a military team was dispatched against civilians with such a device or the technology shared with law enforcement SWAT teams so all the $2,000 and more night vision tools civilians are now purchasing just quit working when they come to kick down our doors. Selected and highly focused "EMP" devices that can be aimed at a single sniper or patrol and put them back into the stone age when working in darkness.
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Old October 25, 2019, 20:11   #1104
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They have a full range of capabilities....
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Old October 25, 2019, 21:53   #1105
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It's why I have not abandoned my U.S. and Soviet Gen 1 or Gen 2 no frills night vision equipment as expect it to be less susceptible to directed interference. ATN is making two versions of some of their night vision, one with all the bells and whistles plus a model with just basic night vision or thermal features and no wireless, video, etc. Have been buying both and working on ways to shield the majority of the units from wide spectrum radio frequencies. All am leaving exposed is the front lense and the eyepiece. Like the anti thermal suits that reduce a person's thermal signature and I.R. signature upwards of 90%. If the new Fusion devices that combine Starlight and Thermal at likely Gen 4 or 5 levels won't find folks wearing the stuff it would not be filtering to civilian market even in small quantities and high prices.
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Old October 25, 2019, 21:58   #1106
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It's why I have not abandoned my U.S. and Soviet Gen 1 or Gen 2 no frills night vision equipment as expect it to be less susceptible to directed interference. ATN is making two versions of some of their night vision, one with all the bells and whistles plus a model with just basic night vision or thermal features and no wireless, video, etc. Have been buying both and working on ways to shield the majority of the units from wide spectrum radio frequencies. All am leaving exposed is the front lense and the eyepiece. Like the anti thermal suits that reduce a person's thermal signature and I.R. signature upwards of 90%. If the new Fusion devices that combine Starlight and Thermal at likely Gen 4 or 5 levels won't find folks wearing the stuff it would not be filtering to civilian market even in small quantities and high prices.
Got a location/site selling for the basic model above???????

I've used ATN stuff that others have,,,,but zero desire to learn all the crap hanging off them.

Anything other than an on and off switch is crap to me.
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Old October 25, 2019, 23:13   #1107
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Got a location/site selling for the basic model above??????? I've used ATN stuff that others have,,,,but zero desire to learn all the crap hanging off them.Anything other than an on and off switch is crap to me.
Scroll about half way down the page and there are two Thor LT Thermal models. One is 3-6x, 4-8x and a 4-12x LT models. Site does not show the 4-12x LT model yet. They mount in 30mm rings and like my 4-8x on to of a 6.8 spc II AR 15s.

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ATN Corp is proud to present the ThOR LT, a powerful yet compact thermal rifle scopes series. It’s an amazing addition to the already proven ATN line of thermal and night vision optics. We have stripped the “bells and whistles” making it more simple and easier to use. It is everything our customers have asked for. A close range scope that provides outstanding performance at a price that is affordable to the average hunter. If you are looking for compact, lightweight and most important - an affordable thermal solution then the ThOR LT is what you're after.
https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd#dc32

They have their new 4K day/night scopes with one shot sight in and bling you can ignore for $699 for the 3-14x and $699 for the 5-20x. Not the best night vision and will want an auxiliary I.R. Illuminator bit for the money beat no night vision scope. Trick is mount I.R. Illuminators under eves of house so you don't light yourself up as the target if use rifle or helmet mounted I.R. Illuminator. Use strong enough I.R. unit mounted on house it can wash out opposition's night vision unless military grade.

I really like my Gen 2+ CGT Starlight as is basic and have them in 4x and 6x fixed power. Run two 4x on AR 15s and 6x on an AR 10 and a turn bolt. Also have a Gen 3 white phosphorus but the black and white viewer trashes my night vision when lift off and the Gen 2+ green and black does not cause a blind eye when lift off scope. I am saving up for a Starlight/Thermal fusion monocular that allows user to go Starlight, Thermal or blend the two to suit their needs. Also have a nifty adapter that mounts a Leupold Tracker to Norotos MICH helmet mount and holds it proper distance from eye and shields backscatter off users face.
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