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Old October 20, 2019, 16:23   #1
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Pistol Grip Plate for FN C2A1

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I found the Pistol Grip Plate with a "A" marked on the front to be installed on the FN C2A1 . A friend who was a former Weapon Technician in the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) told me that is was a normal procedure to install this plate marked with a "A" on all FN C2A1 pistol grip. The reason is to prevent the installation an Pistol Grip Assembly (1005-21-150-4169) with a shorter plunger (1005-21-102-8357) for C2A1/C1A1D on a FN C1A1 rifle. The plunger for the C1A1 (1005-21-150-4143) is longer than the one for the C2A1/C1A1D, the purpose is to prevent the C1A1 to go full automatic; of course, a Change Lever Assembly (1005-21-102-8349) is need to have the C1A1 to go full automatic. The plunger for the C1A1 measure 1.325 inches and for the C2A1/C1A1D measures 1.24 inches. For no reason, the procedure of marking the plate with an "A" is no indicated in the Canadian Forces Technical Order (CFTO) on the FN C2A1. Maybe this procedure was done also in Australia for the L2A1.


Please see the right one with the "A" to be used with C2A1/C1A1D, on the left one without marking to be used with the C1A1
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Old October 20, 2019, 16:33   #2
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I'll have to check mine to see which I have.



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......actually very interesting.
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Old October 21, 2019, 16:46   #5
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For Lithgow manufacture the following were utilised
Plate, pistol grip 1005-99-960-2332 is common to L1A1 and L2A1
Plunger, Trigger spring 1005-21-102-8357 was for L2A1
Plunger, Trigger spring 1005-99-960-2333 was used for L1A1
Spring, sear & trigger 1005-99-960-2099 was used for both L1A1 & L2A1
Lever, change assy 1005-66-015-6317 was for L2A1
Lever, change assy 1005-99.960-0058 was for L1A1

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Hello,

I found the Pistol Grip Plate with a "A" marked on the front to be installed on the FN C2A1 . A friend who was a former Weapon Technician in the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) told me that is was a normal procedure to install this plate marked with a "A" on all FN C2A1 pistol grip. The reason is to prevent the installation an Pistol Grip Assembly (1005-21-150-4169) with a shorter plunger (1005-21-102-8357) for C2A1/C1A1D on a FN C1A1 rifle. The plunger for the C1A1 (1005-21-150-4143) is longer than the one for the C2A1/C1A1D, the purpose is to prevent the C1A1 to go full automatic; of course, a Change Lever Assembly (1005-21-102-8349) is need to have the C1A1 to go full automatic. The plunger for the C1A1 measure 1.325 inches and for the C2A1/C1A1D measures 1.24 inches. For no reason, the procedure of marking the plate with an "A" is no indicated in the Canadian Forces Technical Order (CFTO) on the FN C2A1. Maybe this procedure was done also in Australia for the L2A1.


Please see the right one with the "A" to be used with C2A1/C1A1D, on the left one without marking to be used with the C1A1

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How big is that letter “A” in mm or inches.
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Maybe this procedure was done also in Australia for the L2A1.
.....nope....there was no differently marked plate used here for the L2.
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For Lithgow manufacture the following were utilised
Plate, pistol grip 1005-99-960-2332 is common to L1A1 and L2A1
Plunger, Trigger spring 1005-21-102-8357 was for L2A1
Plunger, Trigger spring 1005-99-960-2333 was used for L1A1
Spring, sear & trigger 1005-99-960-2099 was used for both L1A1 & L2A1
Lever, change assy 1005-66-015-6317 was for L2A1
Lever, change assy 1005-99.960-0058 was for L1A1
Interesting to see that the Plunger (1005-21-102-8357) used for L2A1 was made in Canada.
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How big is that letter “A” in mm or inches.
The measurements for the "A" are:
4,98 mm /0.196 inch wide at the base; and,
7,84 mm/0.308 inch high
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The measurements for the "A" are:
4,98 mm /0.196 inch wide at the base; and,
7,84 mm/0.308 inch high
Thank you sir
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Old October 22, 2019, 23:00   #11
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Other components peculiar to the L2A1 were also sourced from Canada rather than tool up for manufacture locally.
Interestingly Lithgow chose to modify the L1A1 Lever change rather than also purchase the Canadian Lever change.

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Interesting to see that the Plunger (1005-21-102-8357) used for L2A1 was made in Canada.
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yup, that plate is pretty rare, i only got one but the A is a different style.
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yup, that plate is pretty rare, i only got one but the A is a different style.
Could you send a picture of your plate with the "A"?
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I have two plates with tow différents "A".
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Old November 09, 2019, 18:33   #15
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Pictures posted for C1-EH1

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Old November 10, 2019, 00:09   #16
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The "A" looks like the same at one of my plate.
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Old November 10, 2019, 05:00   #17
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Yup, It matches the left plate, also both letters are tilted to the right.

Your right plate letter is vertical.
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