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Old April 20, 2019, 05:43   #1
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H4ckb3rry G4r4nd st0ck

I was curious about these and bought one. Read that hackberry is similar to elm. I think elm was used sporadically in Mauser rifels here and there.

I don't know if Garand guys like hackberry or not, but so what. These have dark stain on them. I think I will just leave this stock like it is, put it on something and see what happens.





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Old April 20, 2019, 20:54   #2
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U know U want one.

https://www.dupagetrading.com/produc...-m1-stock-set/
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Old April 20, 2019, 23:40   #3
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Utility grade stock for a utility grade M1 Garand Rifle. There are no butt plate cleaning kit holes though.
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Old April 21, 2019, 07:42   #4
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Im glad someone finally found something that a hackberry tree is good for.
The only other tree I’d rather not have on my property is a Chinaberry.
Stock looks like a great value, Ive never considered using hackberry wood for anything.
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My son has a set on a Garand he picked up, the dark finish does not soak in well, so any little ding or scratch reveals the white wood underneath, seemed strong enough, but cheap finish wise. Thanks for this post otherwise I would have thought they were some cheap Chinese stocks!
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Old April 21, 2019, 21:32   #6
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If it was Chinese, they might use catalpa wood or something like that.

Utilitarian is good. I got away from the military-stock-as-fine-furniture aspect.
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Old April 24, 2019, 14:24   #7
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Exactly. I thought hackberry would be too soft for use as a gun stock. I have an M-14 NM stock made of maple and it is bizarre enough. (It is still in the original plastic "shipping" bag and has never been installed. Will need glass-bedding from a professional glass-bedder.)

I have heard gunsmiths call the M1 and M-14 birch stocks "apple crate wood". I'm guessing because they are old "walnut only" fans. They'd probably have a stroke seeing a Garand stock made out of hackberry.

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Looks like a picnic table. Some stripper, Chestnut ridge stain and a few heavy coats of Helmsman matte spray urethane will fix that up right.
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Old May 03, 2019, 19:36   #9
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Well, I was going to leave it alone, but I got so curious that I stripped it so see what was under the dark stain. It's never going to be walnut or birch, so I will let it be hackberry. Not pretty is it. It will look better when it's complete and not sitting on concrete, maybe.

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No, I like it. It looks way better than it did in that first pic. Not bad at all Mebs!
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Allrighty thank you Texgunner.
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I like it. Reminds me of the old test pattern on television stations in the 50s when they went off the air for the night.
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The earliest TV sign-off I can remember is video of an F5 flying while the national anthem played (with singing), then the color test bars and the tone.
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I agree with Tex, liking your new refinish job Mebs. It looks like Oak I think, could use a bit more red or chestnut for me.
Anyways, much better, reminds me of the gray laminate stocks someone makes.

Got a set of Garand wood made of Beech? or Birch? that I took off my old Blue Sky and replaced with walnut. Anyone know it this stuff is worth anything?
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Yah I thought it could use a little more red too. I tested some stain with red in the channel and thought it would come out orange if I used it, though.
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I like it. Reminds me of the old test pattern on television stations in the 50s when they went off the air for the night.
I remember the Indian Head / Bullseye sign off screen.

I like the stock. A little darker would be better for my tastes. Does not look as cheap as the original picture.
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The earliest TV sign-off I can remember is video of an F5 flying while the national anthem played (with singing), then the color test bars and the tone.

I was thinking before colored TV.
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I was thinking before colored TV.
Me too. The "test pattern" I recall looked something like a target to me. It came on after "High Flight" played across the screen every night, usually around midnight or so.

This one is like the ones I remember, although I don't recall the Indian head:




Thankfully, I don't remember seeing this one:

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I remember the Indian Head / Bullseye sign off screen.

I like the stock. A little darker would be better for my tastes. Does not look as cheap as the original picture.
Dude, somehow I missed your post mon ami! That's the one!!
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The butt stock looks great, how did the hand guards turn out?
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I'm tempted to buy one and strip it down and stain it a shade of green.
https://www.cabotstain.com/colors-an...nt-Colors.html
For the money,what the hell?
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Me too. The "test pattern" I recall looked something like a target to me. It came on after "High Flight" played across the screen every night, usually around midnight or so.

This one is like the ones I remember, although I don't recall the Indian head:




Thankfully, I don't remember seeing this one:


That is exactly what came to mind when I saw the stock. Old time TV workers might remember convergence. Now I am feeling old.
Thanks for finding it.
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Done. Wish it was a little more dark. Not stripping it again and starting over though. It will turn darker in time.

This particular M1 is cobbled together out of parts and has a Fulton .308 barrel.



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That is a fine looking rifle.

How tight is the receiver lockup, and does the barrel contact the stock?
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Thank you.
Receiver lockup is tight. I used a trigger guard with worn lugs instead of trying to adjust the stock. If you remove the trigger group, the rifle doesn't fall out of the stock if you turn it upside down. It takes a little effort to pull it out of the stock.

I don't think the barrel touches the stock. I'll have to take it apart to be sure.
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Awesome. I would be proud to own a stock like that.
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Thank you. That Garand has a timing issue when loading the en bloc that I am sorting out now. I blew it off for a long time because .308 was no longer cheap, so I just shot .30-06.
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what to use to strip the original finish?

What did you use to strip the original finish? I used oven cleaner which worked on removing old stock finish in the past, but not the CMP Hackberry stock finish! Just sent you an email!
What top coat or oil you use? Look very nice!

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CitriStrip spray. Oven cleaner and Purple whatever did not work for me either on that one.

For finish I think that one is Minwax special walnut stain then Tru-Oil. I like Tru-Oil because it actually dries.
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Get that good looking stock into some sun every day for a few months and it will take-on a fine patina, Mebs . . . But you know this already.

Looks great.

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Done. Wish it was a little more dark. Not stripping it again and starting over though. It will turn darker in time.

This particular M1 is cobbled together out of parts and has a Fulton .308 barrel.



I like it WAY better than the original pic. Great job.
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I like it too. No it doesn’t look like walnut but it has its own nice albeit different grain.
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Me too. The "test pattern" I recall looked something like a target to me. It came on after "High Flight" played across the screen every night, usually around midnight or so.

This one is like the ones I remember, although I don't recall the Indian head:




Thankfully, I don't remember seeing this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian-head_test_pattern explains the pattern. With that said, first thing I thought was this, which probably does date me:
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