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Old February 06, 2020, 20:33   #1
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So I am sick of blocky polymer pistols

And I want to sell my Glock 17 and go with a CZ 75 Compact. I have owned several Glocks and want something more traditional. Any advice? Mags are my only concern. Are MecGar a good way to go? Opinions are greatly appreciated 😀
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Old February 06, 2020, 20:47   #3
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And I want to sell my Glock 17 and go with a CZ 75 Compact. I have owned several Glocks and want something more traditional. Any advice? Mags are my only concern. Are MecGar a good way to go? Opinions are greatly appreciated 😀
I have a PCR that is my favorite pistol to shoot. Came with 3 mags. Don’t think factory mags are that expensive or difficult to find. CZ makes a fine pistol and I don’t think you’ll be disappointed no matter what you choose. Only problem will be trying to get just one...
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CZ's are great. I prefer metal frame examples over polymer. MecGar supplies factory magazines for several firarms manufacturer's. They are top quality, period.
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Broke a tooth that got filled about 35 yrs ago and no root canal with just a crown. So under budget and no love for the last few months.

I want a nice one but not crazy nice. What does $1K get you these days? No Browning stamps. If you didn't read the intro don't comment on the body of the text, I'm getting an itch
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Go for it - one will be my next handgun purchase. MecGar are a good way to go because you can buy the same mag as factory w/o the markup.
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The only CZ I ever cared for was a Springfield import converted to single action only. Never liked the trigger pull distance on DA. But the grip is awesome, like the hi power.

Is the full size a problem to carry"?
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I have sigs, glocks... and my carry gun and the one I like shooting the best is my CZ 75d Compact PCR. Used to carry my high power, but the CZ changed my mind.
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And I want to sell my Glock 17 and go with a CZ 75 Compact. I have owned several Glocks and want something more traditional. Any advice? Mags are my only concern. Are MecGar a good way to go? Opinions are greatly appreciated 😀
whats your endgame?

when i got my CZ85 20+ years ago, i fell in love with CZs. they were way more accurate than me, and a natural pointer, again, for me and they were inexpensive back then. Now with every tom-dick-harry buying them, prices have gone up.

Here the thing that people forget and get buyers remorse. So do yourself a favor and look for someplace to rent and try. Noting that any gun rental could be "rode hard and put up wet". But try if you can. even if you have to drive a while or make a day trip of it.

you have any shooting buds? do they have one? Ask and try. way cheaper that buying and trying to unload.

I have a G17 too, but i need to stop/think/concentrate on shooting it decently. on any other gun i have, so far, i can pickup and hit what i aim at.

with regards to aftermarket mags. when i buy ANY gun and if it uses mags, i buy 10 mags for it. I dont buy anything but OEM/MegGar. There are other like Pro-Mag but so far, in my experience and from the various guns i have, they are a crap shoot. If they are the only game in town, i will buy and try. And weed out any bad ones. there maybe some other aftermarkets too, but im not going down that road.

If you have any gun rental ranges in your area, look at any toys that fits your requirements. Be it 9 or any other caliber.

Depending on what you want/need/afford, you may have several options.
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I sure like my CZ-40B. It fits my hand perfectly, carries nicely, and shoots straighter than I can. Haven't had a failure to fire, feed, or eject in over a thousand rounds. Only holds 10 rounds, but if you can't kill it or stop the fight in 10 rounds you probably shouldn't be carrying anyway.
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Old February 08, 2020, 10:09   #13
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Sarsilmaz B6P

Full size or compact, get what you need. I like mine real well. It's been referred to as a clone between a Hi-power and a CZ75. Mec-gar and Actmag both make replacement mags. Factory mags are rare. CDNN has them for $239.00 +shipping.(Full size only)~ss

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Old February 08, 2020, 13:42   #15
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CZ75 series retro-fitted with a CZ85 series type trigger may just about ring your bell. Much reduced double action trigger reach and smoother trigger pull and weight, especially when used as a trigger set from Cajun Gun Works. Not too difficult to be a DIY project.

Used to own a CZ75B model the brother talked me out of. Had a CZ P07, but never felt love for the Omega trigger system they use, so it left the building. I now have the SP01 for target shooting and the RAMI model for concealed carry.

Tuhlmann is right about the PCR model for concealed carry. Unfortunately they are not always in stock and available. Perfect compromise between the full size and the RAMI. Another plus for the PCR is it's aluminum frame and that makes for a lighter mass hanging off your belt.
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I have always been a big fan of the CZ-75, and have owned a lot of them over the years. Below are pictures of some of the more unusual models that i have known and loved. I haven't owned one of the early Short Rail model yet, but am working on it. Consider this your second warning, since CZs multiply in your gun safe even faster than FALs and take up a lot less space.

As for the choice of a carry piece, keep in mind that the "traditional" CZ-75B Compact (DA/SA with manual safety) has a steel frame so is noticeably heavier (4 or 5 oz) than the P-01 and PCR Compact models. As for mags, I have also had good experience with Mecgar for all my CZ-75s, both full-size and compact. Should go without saying that the full-size mags will fit in the various compact models (but not vice-versa) which greatly simplifies the backup mag situation. For more info, here is an excellent article comparing the two https://aliengearholsters.com/blog/c...ompact-vs-pcr/

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(1) Early CZ-75 Pre-B model (1983) with DA/SA trigger, manual safety, spur hammer, rounded triggerguard, "waffle" grip panels, no firing pin safety. All-steel, gloss enamel finish. Made in Czechoslovakia when they were still Commies, with no import marks (GI bring-back from Germany). This is the "Classic" model that Jeff Cooper fell in love with and proclaimed as the best DA/SA auto in the world. Of course it helped that they were still Forbidden Fruit to most of us (US embargo on ComBloc products) which made them even more desirable. Mags for Pre-Bs are hard to find but the mag well can be easily modifed to accept later mags. This was my first CZ-75 and still my favorite.


(2) Transitional CZ-85 Pre-B model (1994) which is basically a standard full-size CZ-75 with ambidextrous controls, ring hammer, checkered recurved triggerguard, no firing pin safety. All-steel, matte enamel finish, made in the Czech Republic shortly after the breakup. CZ used several importers in the US until they set up CZ-USA in the early 2000s; this one was Imported by Action Arms (Philadelphia) although I have also owned serveral from this era imported by Bauska (Kalispell MT).


(3) Compact CZ-75D PCR (Police Czech Republic). SA/DA with Decocker, alloy frame, black Polycoat finish, and low-profile night sights. Compact has a shorter slide and grip frame than full-size models; about the size and heft of a Smith&Wesson 5906 but way more cool. Similar feel but different controls and manual of arms for the decocker vs manual safety models, so a matter of preference (and practice) if you end up with both styles in your gun safe.


(4) and (5) Family portrait of two limited edition CZ-75 "Tactical" models. Top one is a CZ-75B Tactical with 2-tone OD Polycoat frame with black slide, low-profile night sights, recurved checkered TG, and lanyard ring. Only a few hundred imported, these were basically an upgraded full-size CZ-75B, and came with a matching custom Ken Onion folding knife in the case. Bottom one is a compact P-01 Tactical with alloy frame and front rail, OD Polycoat finish, fixed rear sight, and lanyard ring. The P-01 was the first CZ product assigned a NATO Stock Number (NSN) since the Czech Republic had switched sides by then. Only real difference with the Tactical was the OD color and lanyard ring, otherwise identical to the standard P-01 with black Polycoat finish.
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I have a few Plastic Fantastics, but I keep some CZ steel around too;
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I have a 75B, 75D Compact, and an SP-01 Phantom.The 75D Compact is my carry gun with the factory rubber grips. The 75B i converted to SAO using the CGW parts, and LOK grips. It is set up for matches but the trigger pull still a nice glass break 3½ pounds. The Phantom is my 3 gun and RNG match gun. CGW trigger parts reduced the DA pull length and reset as well as dropped the pull weight to around 4¼ pounds and SA at 3 pounds. The reason I went to the polymer framed Phantom is that it has the same size as the 75B, it is 14 oz. lighter and still feels good in the hand. 2K rounds through it so far and nary a hiccup.
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While I really like the CZ-75 guns, and while I also have some of the plastic framed Sarsilmaz copies that I like very much, I'm also a big fan of the blocky polymer pistols. The CZ P-10C and P-09 would be at the bottom on any list of pistols to give up...

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The CZ P 01 is my favorite handgun, it's my every day carry & I trust it if I ever had to defend my own life with it. With that said...I think CZ pistols are under rated, I read somewhere years ago that the torture test for the P 01 was tougher than Glock's. Don't know if it's true or not but my P 01 has never failed me, it's plenty accurate & it feels like it was custom made to fit my hand.
Mec-Gar mags as others have said are the manufacturer for many different companies. They are good to go. The only issue that I have with CZ mags in general is their price, I deal with it though.
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I believe that he has the best prices for CZ mags on the net. He ships fast & I have never been disappointed with his service.
I have been looking for a P 06 for quite some time but can't find one in stock anywhere, it's the .40 version of the P 01.

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whats your endgame?

when i got my CZ85 20+ years ago, i fell in love with CZs. they were way more accurate than me, and a natural pointer, again, for me and they were inexpensive back then. Now with every tom-dick-harry buying them, prices have gone up.

Here the thing that people forget and get buyers remorse. So do yourself a favor and look for someplace to rent and try. Noting that any gun rental could be "rode hard and put up wet". But try if you can. even if you have to drive a while or make a day trip of it.

you have any shooting buds? do they have one? Ask and try. way cheaper that buying and trying to unload.

I have a G17 too, but i need to stop/think/concentrate on shooting it decently. on any other gun i have, so far, i can pickup and hit what i aim at.

with regards to aftermarket mags. when i buy ANY gun and if it uses mags, i buy 10 mags for it. I dont buy anything but OEM/MegGar. There are other like Pro-Mag but so far, in my experience and from the various guns i have, they are a crap shoot. If they are the only game in town, i will buy and try. And weed out any bad ones. there maybe some other aftermarkets too, but im not going down that road.

If you have any gun rental ranges in your area, look at any toys that fits your requirements. Be it 9 or any other caliber.

Depending on what you want/need/afford, you may have several options.
just waiting for some more cash to flow in. I bought three MeGar 1911 mags and they worked flawlessly. I saw the prices for CZ and they are priced well, will get those when the time arrives.
The Glock is already gone, I actually just need to order the pistol and get it here to my local pawn shop for pickup!
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just waiting for some more cash to flow in. I bought three MeGar 1911 mags and they worked flawlessly. I saw the prices for CZ and they are priced well, will get those when the time arrives.
The Glock is already gone, I actually just need to order the pistol and get it here to my local pawn shop for pickup!
Hopefully you will like it. But someone mentioned they have a tendency to multiply too.
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Hi Point. Definitely what your looking for.










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Only if I get one made out of potmetal
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I have a PCR that is my favorite pistol to shoot. Came with 3 mags. Don’t think factory mags are that expensive or difficult to find. CZ makes a fine pistol and I don’t think you’ll be disappointed no matter what you choose. Only problem will be trying to get just one...
I bought the CZ 75 Compact PCR D. Should arrive later this week. Got alot of 9mm to put through it. Been cruising around with a 1911 in my pocket so this should be more convenient.
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And I want to sell my Glock 17 and go with a CZ 75 Compact. I have owned several Glocks and want something more traditional. Any advice? Mags are my only concern. Are MecGar a good way to go? Opinions are greatly appreciated 😀
Like Peconga I own numerous full size CZ-75's as well as the PCR model. For mags I either like the factory CZ mags or the MecGar's with the blue follower.
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I bought the CZ 75 Compact PCR D. Should arrive later this week. Got alot of 9mm to put through it. Been cruising around with a 1911 in my pocket so this should be more convenient.
Got my CZ 75 D a week or so ago. Was surprised to see a polymer op rod. After I put 150+ rds through it I noticed the plastic op rod fraying apart--so I bought a stainless steel one from Cajun parts in Louisiana. Looks and works great. Excellent pistol.

here it is: came with two 10 rd mags so I bought two 15rd mags (more soon):
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IWI Jerichos are my favorite. CZ-75 with great Izzie mods. Battle proven.
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IWI Jerichos are my favorite. CZ-75 with great Izzie mods. Battle proven.
I'd like to see one. This is a cool pistol. Put another 200+ rds through it Sunday here in Kingman. A little sensitive to handloads but factory seems to run well through it.
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SIG P-210 American you will never regret it!! I have 2 American Models and a Swiss Model they are the best and I also like 1911"s!
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I'd like to see one. This is a cool pistol. Put another 200+ rds through it Sunday here in Kingman. A little sensitive to handloads but factory seems to run well through it.
just an FYI.

CZs are known to have a short throat.

So whatever you do, i always do the plunk test on new ammo/reloads.
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just an FYI.

CZs are known to have a short throat.

So whatever you do, i always do the plunk test on new ammo/reloads.
yeah, I used some win 231 and a small amount (4-4.2g) and seated the bullet slightly deeper. Book calls for 1.090. Think I'll try a slower powder next time.
Cycles good with that combo, no split cases or excessive recoil.

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Full size or compact, get what you need. I like mine real well. It's been referred to as a clone between a Hi-power and a CZ75. Mec-gar and Actmag both make replacement mags. Factory mags are rare. CDNN has them for $239.00 +shipping.(Full size only)~ss

I also have one of these, cost $250, brand new. I just recently bought an EAA Witness .22 Conversion kit which will fit the SAR B6P. But if you get the .22 Conversion kit, you'll need to modify the magazine slightly. My original CZ 75 is an early one, from 1982 or 83 with the round trigger guard, no hook on it.
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Have the full size and compact. Not bad for $230 or so ...



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Have the full size and compact. Not bad for $230 or so ...
As do I...

And I agree...

By the way, the original B6P mags are the same as the Sarsilmaz SAR K2P mags (in 9mm, anyway)...

And the full size B6P mags will fit the B6P Compact as well, although, as might be expected, they stick out the bottom of the magwell a bit...

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