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Old September 05, 2018, 14:39   #1
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Bondarms Derringer

Before you say this post is off-topic, allow me to tie in to revolvers in good time.

I just received an email about a 4" barrel 2 round .357 derringer made by Bond Arms in .357, model PT2A. For $677. Correct me if I am wrong but I can get 4" barrel revolvers in that caliber from decent manufacturers for less than that; and as a bonus they tend to come with a way to carry 4 extra rounds free of charge.

The concealability argument does not hold water: I have seen 9mm Derringers and they are not particularly small. IMHO something on the lines of a P238 or G43 are probably as wide and about the same length.

And cheaper. And we are not even talking about the Taurus PT111s and SCYYs and other small 9mm double stackers.

So, explain this to this curious bloke who did not grew up watching cowboy movies: what is the point of these derringers?
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Old September 05, 2018, 15:17   #2
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IMHO there isn't any point to a derringer these days. They are nothing but novelty firearms. Two shots that may hit a pie plate at seven yards if the barrels have been properly regulated. But the makers don't go to the trouble of doing this.

I'll make do with my S&W M642 Airweight .38 Special. Five rounds and I can actually hit a three inch target center at ten yards with all rounds. But there will always be those who just have to day dream that they are the actor Richard Boone playing Paladin in the old TV western "Have Gun Will Travel".

And so it goes.


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Old September 05, 2018, 16:20   #3
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IMHO, nothing other than the novelty of it being a Derringer.

I don't own one. For $400, I bought a compact Glock.
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Old September 05, 2018, 17:05   #4
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The Derringer came before the revolver, and was a huge leap ahead of a flintlock handgun but are really just a novelty now. The Bond guns are the Cadillac of the genre, and are cool in their own way.
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Of all the derringers I have seen, the Bond Arms pistols are the most reliable, and the most expensive. And their size is such that they are not that bad in shooting them.

But for the money they want, you can get several other models of modern day pistols with higher capacity and similar ammo. If you need a truly small pocket pistol, I would get one of the North American Arms revolvers in 22WMR. They are plenty accurate, have decent power to put down a wounded deer (I have seen this) and fit in most every pocket out there.




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A novelty for sure but I have the confess that I own one. 4" barrels chambered in .410/44 LC. With the home defense combo disc/pellet load in .410 it is formidable at 7 yards. For 2 shots anyway
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Of all the derringers I have seen, the Bond Arms pistols are the most reliable, and the most expensive. And their size is such that they are not that bad in shooting them.

But for the money they want, you can get several other models of modern day pistols with higher capacity and similar ammo. If you need a truly small pocket pistol, I would get one of the North American Arms revolvers in 22WMR. They are plenty accurate, have decent power to put down a wounded deer (I have seen this) and fit in most every pocket out there.




https://northamericanarms.com/produc...ms/22-magnums/
That's likely my next purchase.
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I would get one of the North American Arms revolvers in 22WMR. They are plenty accurate, have decent power to put down a wounded deer (I have seen this) and fit in most every pocket out there.




https://northamericanarms.com/produc...ms/22-magnums/
A long time ago in another part of the world, a friend of mine carried one very much like that NAA.
Of the several guns he owned, he said that diminutive revolver was the only one that has seen 'combat'. Apparently it was convenient enough to carry just about everywhere and it was the one gun he had with him when an urchin decided to try a bit of strong-arm robbery. My friend did say that he fired it in the encounter, though he did not report making a hit.
Evidently it was enough convince Scruffy to seek treasure elsewhere.
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Before you say this post is off-topic, allow me to tie in to revolvers in good time.

I just received an email about a 4" barrel 2 round .357 derringer made by Bond Arms in .357, model PT2A. For $677. Correct me if I am wrong but I can get 4" barrel revolvers in that caliber from decent manufacturers for less than that; and as a bonus they tend to come with a way to carry 4 extra rounds free of charge.

The concealability argument does not hold water: I have seen 9mm Derringers and they are not particularly small. IMHO something on the lines of a P238 or G43 are probably as wide and about the same length.

And cheaper. And we are not even talking about the Taurus PT111s and SCYYs and other small 9mm double stackers.

So, explain this to this curious bloke who did not grew up watching cowboy movies: what is the point of these derringers?
I actually own one with 410/45 bbl and 357 bbl. I love it! Fun to shoot and I do carry it in my bag while in woods. Not my primary carry but certainly a decent bag/woods/back yard gun. Regarding trigger and accuracy comments you need to learn how/where it shoots and with some practice easy to master.
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Old October 07, 2018, 10:30   #10
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I actually own one with 410/45 bbl and 357 bbl. I love it! Fun to shoot and I do carry it in my bag while in woods. Not my primary carry but certainly a decent bag/woods/back yard gun. Regarding trigger and accuracy comments you need to learn how/where it shoots and with some practice easy to master.
The early Bond arms had a trigger geometry that traveled up and back rather than a more natural straight back. My big hands on that tiny grip made release less than smooth. For me, it was not an optimum arrangement. I have heard that changes have been made to the geometry that will improve trigger release now.

Let it go and replaced it with one of those Double Tap monsters. Small in size and thin as well. Two shots same as before. Not as pretty, but with a heavy double action trigger it's safe for pocket carry and an effective deterrent at stapler range.
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