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Old July 09, 2019, 03:14   #51
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basically grew up, moved out of urban areas where dumb shit often occurred
in the Twin Cities back then I was always somebodies accident waiting to happen
Got real sick of the BS, moved west to North Dakota after my gal was shot in the face delivering pizza in South Minneapolis by a 12 year old at a crossing to get gang cred'

Took me over a year to get my head semi straight once I left

when you lose everything being brutal is sometimes all you are left
she was 4 months along with what would have been my son
so yeah I fukked some people up for a couple months
wasn't in a good place in the head for some time afterwards either
if your living history contributions are true, then at least you evidently have clear perspective as to IFF protocols, and the associated consequences.

as distinct from most others here, being effectively "limited", as to that aspect of real life.
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We have plenty of fight here in Oregon and you haven't been to my left or right. You haven't been there at the protest at the airport in Roseburg or helping setting up a vote to change .
With respect, attending protests or helping setting up some vote or other ain't fighting. Fighting is a whole 'nuther thing.
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With respect, attending protests or helping setting up some vote or other ain't fighting. Fighting is a whole 'nuther thing.
embracing pathological ignorance/apathy is "fighting" reality.

does that count?
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embracing pathological ignorance/apathy is "fighting" reality.

does that count?
It does if you're a leftist. Jim ain't a leftist. He's just mired in jargon he's never really parsed completely and is, unlike most, beginning to understand how mind-warping it is. Like this whole 'protesting=fighting' thing. It blurs the line between doing something effective and doing something ineffective. To his credit he's engaging, unlike too many others. Would be better if more would.

Believe me, if voting had a snowball's chance in hell of changing the hold deep state has on things it'd be illegal by this time tomorrow.
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Believe me, if voting had a snowball's chance in hell of changing the hold deep state has on things it'd be illegal by this time tomorrow.
An exercise in futility?
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Old July 09, 2019, 07:51   #56
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With respect, attending protests or helping setting up some vote or other ain't fighting. Fighting is a whole 'nuther thing.
Ever been to a war zone with people trying to kill you? Last night I was there 10 mortar rounds dropped all around where I was sleeping. Fighting comes in all sorts of ways, you might be hauling through a shooting gallery a load of JP8 to the next base so the equipment has fuel or you might be helping build fuel bunkers while mortar rounds drop on you.

It might be better to protest before fighting or do it your way.
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Ever been to a war zone with people trying to kill you? Last night I was there 10 mortar rounds dropped all around where I was sleeping. Fighting comes in all sorts of ways, you might be hauling through a shooting gallery a load of JP8 to the next base so the equipment has fuel or you might be helping build fuel bunkers while mortar rounds drop on you.

It might be better to protest before fighting or do it your way.
Nobody is suggesting it's wrong. Just suggesting it ain't the same. Voting and protesting ain't fighting, they're voting and protesting.
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An exercise in futility?
A distraction. A lightning rod, to dissipate energy which might otherwise be dangerous.
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It does if you're a leftist. Jim ain't a leftist. He's just mired in jargon he's never really parsed completely and is, unlike most, beginning to understand how mind-warping it is. Like this whole 'protesting=fighting' thing. It blurs the line between doing something effective and doing something ineffective. To his credit he's engaging, unlike too many others. Would be better if more would.

Believe me, if voting had a snowball's chance in hell of changing the hold deep state has on things it'd be illegal by this time tomorrow.
Let's think it out Bubba and let's use a local here to weigh out what you fight for. One of the boys here says he has a history of fighting America's enemy in Vietnam. Now the conflict was to stop communism and folks here were either drafted or joined. Then they were sent to Vietnam to kill people in their own country who wanted a change in government.

Waiting in ambush and shiting your pants while smelling the smoke of your enemies cigarettes. Killing them because your government told you it's the right thing to do to protect your way of life. Hunting men down and killing them. Yet today Vietnam has chosen it's government and our government has cosied back up to them. Why did the chosen hunt down people who were fighting for their own country.

We killed hundreds of thousands of men, women and childeren in Iraq, have you ever even met an Iraqi? What will change when we are out of there besides a different head of state? Their religion won't change and their hate for us has doubled. When you drive through the countryside you see every stone age mud hut has a dish on top. You see women working in the fields dressed in all black head to toe and kids that look just like our kids with some even being blonde headed.

You guys don't believe I think out what I am saying, frankly tell me where you have been and what you have done to show me you know a better way? Tell me what you were personally involved with. I have never killed anyone, tell me all about those you have killed so I can get into the battle with the right mind like you gents have.
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Let's think it out Bubba and let's use a local here to weigh out what you fight for. One of the boys here says he has a history of fighting America's enemy in Vietnam. Now the conflict was to stop communism and folks here were either drafted or joined. Then they were sent to Vietnam to kill people in their own country who wanted a change in government.

Waiting in ambush and shiting your pants while smelling the smoke of your enemies cigarettes. Killing them because your government told you it's the right thing to do to protect your way of life. Hunting men down and killing them. Yet today Vietnam has chosen it's government and our government has cosied back up to them. Why did the chosen hunt down people who were fighting for their own country.

We killed hundreds of thousands of men, women and childeren in Iraq, have you ever even met an Iraqi? What will change when we are out of there besides a different head of state? Their religion won't change and their hate for us has doubled. When you drive through the countryside you see every stone age mud hut has a dish on top. You see women working in the fields dressed in all black head to toe and kids that look just like our kids with some even being blonde headed.

You guys don't believe I think out what I am saying, frankly tell me where you have been and what you have done to show me you know a better way? Tell me what you were personally involved with. I have never killed anyone, tell me all about those you have killed so I can get into the battle with the right mind like you gents have.
Not gonna slog through all that and please don't be offended. But the simple truth is that voting is not fighting, it's why we have different words for them.
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Nobody is suggesting it's wrong. Just suggesting it ain't the same. Voting and protesting ain't fighting, they're voting and protesting.
Its the first step in a fight, you tell folks you don't agree with what they do. If you don't protest then you have submitted to their rules. It's guys that won't protest that are the problem, they lay down and role over without a peep while folks screw em.
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The guy on the left got hisself shot dead in downtown Dallas about three weeks ago after shooting at a federal building.
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Not gonna slog through all that and please don't be offended. But the simple truth is that voting is not fighting, it's why we have different words for them.
Its all good but you guys just leave my name out of your conversations, I ain't a part of them from here on out.
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Its all good but you guys just leave my name out of your conversations, I ain't a part of them from here on out.
Ok then.
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Yep.
In Rwanda, one side was able to gain control of the government, then use that power to perpetrate the murder of 400,000 people in 3 months with machetes. If everyone having AR’s prevents anyone here from getting frisky and re-enacting that, then By God I want everyone who wants an AR to have one.

Which incidentally is what the 2A affirms anyhow. The RKBA belongs to everyone.
Better be careful throwing out that kind of common sense around here.
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Who in this group actually went anywhere within the last year - or last five years - and fought some antifa members? Grabbed them up by their man-buns and smacked them with a pipe? Sent them home to cry in their soy milk lattes?

Tomorrow, pretty much every single one of you will be sitting in his lazy boy posting on this forum. That’s not “fighting”. I also won’t be fighting anyone - there’s no antifa within hundreds of miles of me to fight even if I was inclined.
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Who in this group actually went anywhere within the last year - or last five years - and fought some antifa members? Grabbed them up by their man-buns and smacked them with a pipe? Sent them home to cry in their soy milk lattes?

Tomorrow, pretty much every single one of you will be sitting in his lazy boy posting on this forum. That’s not “fighting”. I also won’t be fighting anyone - there’s no antifa within hundreds of miles of me to fight even if I was inclined.
translation: "doesn't affect me ,therefore not my problem."

more ignorance/apathy.
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translation: "doesn't affect me ,therefore not my problem."

more ignorance/apathy.
Translation: you continue to sit on your ass and snipe at others from the comfort of your lazy boy.


But to clarify - it’s not apathy.
To participate in this, I’d have to pick a side. On one side, we have the antifa Bolsheviks who think it’s OK to attack a man in the streets like a pack of dogs over his opinion. On the other side, neo-Nazis who march with torches chanting “Jews will not replace us.” I don’t share either opinion, and to me, both sides are part of the same threat.
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Translation: you continue to sit on your ass and snipe at others from the comfort of your lazy boy.


But to clarify - it’s not apathy.
To participate in this, I’d have to pick a side. On one side, we have the antifa Bolsheviks who think it’s OK to attack a man in the streets like a pack of dogs over his opinion. On the other side, neo-Nazis who march with torches chanting “Jews will not replace us.” I don’t share either opinion, and to me, both sides are part of the same threat.
Actually, they are of the same Socialist religion, wearing different labels.

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Then that would be all the more reason to let them all fight it out among themselves.
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Who in this group actually went anywhere within the last year - or last five years - and fought some antifa members? Grabbed them up by their man-buns and smacked them with a pipe? Sent them home to cry in their soy milk lattes?

Tomorrow, pretty much every single one of you will be sitting in his lazy boy posting on this forum. That’s not “fighting”. I also won’t be fighting anyone - there’s no antifa within hundreds of miles of me to fight even if I was inclined.
Why seek out a fight, in a situation where you know the enemy will be protected by the government and your actions will make you a criminal, unless you have no choice but to fight? What's to be gained?

The message here is clear but nobody wants to say it. Using Portland as an example, it's not enough to go out in the street and fight with AntiFa, one would have to wipe them out as well as the people who protect them, then assert control again. Nobody is prepared to go to that level, that's serious chit.
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The actions (or inaction) of Portland’s police during these events is pretty shameful... but what is anyone from outside supposed to do about it? If they indeed are protected by the government there, outsiders going in can’t “free” anyone from anything no matter what they do.

I will reiterate though that the article intentionally mixes “antifa” arming itself with regular people arming themselves. The media / powers that be have long used the same tactics with us. They have always sought to vilify gun owners by casting us all as hate-filled extremists. I see this trick for what it is. Even among the left, it’s not hard to get labeled a “fascist” for not being left enough. Lefties in Portland might look at the situation they are in - with ineffective police and violent thugs attacking at will - and justifiably conclude that they need to be able to secure themselves from any threat. I actually don’t see this as a bad thing. Point of fact, it’s about damn time they started listening to us.
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To participate in this, I’d have to pick a side. On one side, we have the antifa Bolsheviks who think it’s OK to attack a man in the streets like a pack of dogs over his opinion. On the other side, neo-Nazis who march with torches chanting “Jews will not replace us.” I don’t share either opinion, and to me, both sides are part of the same threat.
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Ummmm.... I don't think anyone is advocating saddling up and riding out to Portland. My opinion for whats its worth is that the citizens of Portland need to fix that problem. If they don't then they deserve the city they helped create. There's a few more like Portland. Seattle comes to mind. But just about all the larger metro areas share similar problems in one way or another.

Its not a Republican vs Democrat. Its not conservative vs liberal. Its not black vs white. Its rural vs urban, and the political voting numbers are not in the rural's favor, sorry to say.

This is the second thread in the last two days I've been on where the 'participants' ended any reasonable adult discussion by petty-ass personal insults one to another. We here on a forum such as this are likely all in the impact zone to those what would undo the world we know for something tyrannical and suffocating. Damn! Its time to join together, not act like adolescents.
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Ummmm.... I don't think anyone is advocating saddling up and riding out to Portland. My opinion for whats its worth is that the citizens of Portland need to fix that problem. If they don't then they deserve the city they helped create. ....
If they are I sure missed it ..
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Translation: you continue to sit on your ass and snipe at others from the comfort of your lazy boy.


But to clarify - it’s not apathy.
To participate in this, I’d have to pick a side. On one side, we have the antifa Bolsheviks who think it’s OK to attack a man in the streets like a pack of dogs over his opinion. On the other side, neo-Nazis who march with torches chanting “Jews will not replace us.” I don’t share either opinion, and to me, both sides are part of the same threat.
But to clarify - it most certainly is pathological ignorance and apathy--

in your instance goon, that manifests in you living in your own delusion,
in your personal wine glass "safe space" of existence,
your denialist statements reveal that you are completely out of touch with the reality that we all live in,
to the point of no longer being able to even comprehend reality,
your ability to IFF is crippled, you have auto-neutralized your self.

as such, you are a liability to yourself, and everyone around you.

deep down you understand this, and your choice of statements here is you communicating that you know that you are not going to do shit in time for it to ever matter,
you like it that way,
and you are offended by the thought of anyone else doing that what you yourself refuse to do.

care to continue?
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If they are I sure missed it ..
you did not miss it,

goon and BJ are fabricating their narrative,
their coping mechanism, to deal with reality that which they are not able to comprehend.

denialists are going to get themselves rolled up, and rightly so.
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you did not miss it,

goon and BJ are fabricating their narrative,
their coping mechanism, to deal with reality that which they are not able to comprehend.

denialists are going to get themselves rolled up, and rightly so.

Rolled up by whom?
What are you advocating? Being prepared?
Is there anyone posting here who hasn’t been doing that for decades?

Like I said - tomorrow you will not be running around Portland leading the A-team and freeing the city. You will be posting here from the safety of your living room just like the rest of us. And that’s a good thing - a rational man shouldn’t run out and pick some misguided fight in a situation where there’s nothing to be gained.
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Having both of them kill off one another,,,leaves far less for the rest of us to deal with eventually.
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Having both of them kill off one another,,,leaves far less for the rest of us to deal with eventually.
One faction will have the strength and fortitude to take out the other, if Operation Hummingbird repeats.


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Rolled up by whom?
What are you advocating? Being prepared?
Is there anyone posting here who hasn’t been doing that for decades?

Like I said - tomorrow you will not be running around Portland leading the A-team and freeing the city. You will be posting here from the safety of your living room just like the rest of us. And that’s a good thing - a rational man shouldn’t run out and pick some misguided fight in a situation where there’s nothing to be gained.
again with your fabricated unreality narrative.

antifa/BLM is active in other metros besides portland, doing agg assault with serious bodily harm, attempted homicide, and homicide.
your displays of your own foolishness and ignorance to that fact, not with standing.
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again with your fabricated unreality narrative.

antifa/BLM is active in other metros besides portland, doing agg assault with serious bodily harm, attempted homicide, and homicide.
your displays of your own foolishness and ignorance to that fact, not with standing.
And one can’t carry a firearm in these areas?

The world has always been dangerous. If you weren’t aware of that before the rise of antifa, then you’re the one who was living in a delusion.

Even so - most of the people posting here aren’t surrounded by antifa. To hear some of you tell it, there’s a rebar-wielding mob on every corner. I’ll be extremely surprised to see even one antifa sympathizer on my way home from work. As in... there is pretty much zero chance of it happening. That’s also not an accident - if you live where sympathy for this lawlessness is high, then for your own survival - leave. Find a better place. You can’t do any good for anyone by becoming a virtue-signal culture war martyr.
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And one can’t carry a firearm in these areas?
antifa are already armed, with stated intent to criminal use, and have demonstrated same -- agg assault, attempted homicide, homicide, now public record.
look it up.

lawful carry and armed mob violence are distinct, polar opposites, in fact.
you are in extreme error to conflate the two as a smoke screen to cover your own lame ass excuses.

when you deny that reality with your clown world honk honk display of willful ignorance and apathy,
then you are thereby committed to head up ass stupid, and you are the problem.

and that is on you and you alone, you have no one but your self to blame.

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The world has always been dangerous. If you weren’t aware of that before the rise of antifa, then you’re the one who was living in a delusion.
your display of ignorance and apathy is you communicating your intent and commitment to not do shit in time to matter,
you communicating your refusal to abide anyone else doing anything either;
your denial constitutes tacit approval and acceptance of said criminal agg assault, attempted homicide, homicide, now public record.

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Even so - most of the people posting here aren’t surrounded by antifa. To hear some of you tell it, there’s a rebar-wielding mob on every corner. I’ll be extremely surprised to see even one antifa sympathizer on my way home from work. As in... there is pretty much zero chance of it happening. That’s also not an accident - if you live where sympathy for this lawlessness is high, then for your own survival - leave. Find a better place. You can’t do any good for anyone by becoming a virtue-signal culture war martyr.
denial is not just a river in egypt.

in the internet age, you have no excuse to not know,
your demonstrated ignorance/apathy not with standing.

your use of the language of appeasement,
the language of surrender to intimidation/violence,
the language of subjugation to mob rule
is unreasonable to point of pathological detriment, therefore safely dismissed as uninformed tripe.

you have less than nothing to say to the families and survivors of those who have had theirs harmed, and murdered by antifa/BLM.
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But you do see here, Antifa left their bike chains and pepper spray at home when this gun rights group had open carry over legislation in Ohio earlier this year....They might have bullhorns as their weapon of propaganda, but they were a lot less violent with people who would shoot back:

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I see ANTIFA as an outgrowth of the mental health problems we have in this country now. They just happen to be in places the will tolerate that behavior.

I deal with these scrotes on a daily basis at work, get a lot of spillover from Eugene here. They piss and moan, bang tier heads against the wall, shout, make a scene, throw insults and threats around. If they don't get their 3 hots and a cot for asking from the hospital...it's a fit....if they don't get the drugs they want...same...don't like something the doc said about a diagnosis....well I think you guy get the point...As I watch the videos of the riots...these people look and act just like the idiot psyche/drug patients that we get in the ER on a daily basis.

It is a rare and slow week that I don't get a (fill in the blank), death threat, called a racist, fascist, Nazi, etc...etc...Had one yesterday, said he knew where I live and would be paying me a visit. I explained that the rules that I am bound by are much broader as an armed citizen outside the walls of the hospital...he didn't really have a response for that. Turns out, after further investigation, he is buddies with the guy 3 houses down from mine that is apparently a meth dealer....guess he might actually know where I live...will see how this one plays out....but I digress....

Yes, there may be some actual badass vets in the mix, but for the most part I see these as useful idiots for them, useless for society. They can be dangerous but I don't think they are too smart.
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I see ANTIFA as an outgrowth of the mental health problems we have in this country now. They just happen to be in places the will tolerate that behavior.

I deal with these scrotes on a daily basis at work, get a lot of spillover from Eugene here. They piss and moan, bang tier heads against the wall, shout, make a scene, throw insults and threats around. If they don't get their 3 hots and a cot for asking from the hospital...it's a fit....if they don't get the drugs they want...same...don't like something the doc said about a diagnosis....well I think you guy get the point...As I watch the videos of the riots...these people look and act just like the idiot psyche/drug patients that we get in the ER on a daily basis.

It is a rare and slow week that I don't get a (fill in the blank), death threat, called a racist, fascist, Nazi, etc...etc...Had one yesterday, said he knew where I live and would be paying me a visit. I explained that the rules that I am bound by are much broader as an armed citizen outside the walls of the hospital...he didn't really have a response for that. Turns out, after further investigation, he is buddies with the guy 3 houses down from mine that is apparently a meth dealer....guess he might actually know where I live...will see how this one plays out....but I digress....

Yes, there may be some actual badass vets in the mix, but for the most part I see these as useful idiots for them, useless for society. They can be dangerous but I don't think they are too smart.
as a clinician, are you not under a "duty to report" articulated threats of self harm, or harm to another, or against your self?

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as a clinician, are you not under a "duty to report" articulated threats of self harm, or harm to another, or against your self?

just asking.
Self harm, yes. But I am working security now, not in a medical capacity, really more of a bouncer for the ER. By the time I am tossing the ones out that refuse to leave (happens more than you would think) they have been cleared be both an MD and a psychiatrist. By that point they are no longer a patient but now a trespasser. When they are in as a patient everything is documented by the medical staff.
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Why seek out a fight, in a situation where you know the enemy will be protected by the government and your actions will make you a criminal, unless you have no choice but to fight? What's to be gained?

The message here is clear but nobody wants to say it. Using Portland as an example, it's not enough to go out in the street and fight with AntiFa, one would have to wipe them out as well as the people who protect them, then assert control again. Nobody is prepared to go to that level, that's serious chit.
Agreed, who here is retarded enough to willingly go to a demonstration of two political wills that are so opposed to one another, and under such close scrutiny that your chances of making zero impact on the political discussion but still getting thumped by a group of idiots is at an extreme high? I see these young idealogues show up and argue, fight, throw insults and objects at one another and think how happy I am to be here, in my relative safe place prepping for future calamities that really matter.
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Agreed, who here is retarded enough to willingly go to a demonstration of two political wills that are so opposed to one another, and under such close scrutiny that your chances of making zero impact on the political discussion but still getting thumped by a group of idiots is at an extreme high? I see these young idealogues show up and argue, fight, throw insults and objects at one another and think how happy I am to be here, in my relative safe place prepping for future calamities that really matter.
Many are.
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But the gun-owner "concealed carry" crowd detest us open-carry folks more than the liberals...Reason why many of us don't go to the rallies.

You see, our own people are sons of bitches too....
bingo.
clearly you have been paying attention.


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Please define "us"....and what will "us" do?

Besides watch it on TV/youtube.......
precisely the problem--


the fudd/gun community are parasites, have gotten away with been being carried by the good guys in the pro-gun rights/pro-freedom culture for far too long.
fudds are a write off, dead weight, a severe liability, and they like it that way.



yankee explains it pretty good.

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The guy on the left got hisself shot dead in downtown Dallas about three weeks ago after shooting at a federal building.


I'm not terribly worried about Antifa. According to what I've read online, various government three letter agencies are know who they are and have them under surveillance. If Antifa really gets some shit going, I suspect Uncle Sam will move in.

And if no, well....there's more of us than there are them.
You’re right - The guy on the left was killed in Texas last month following an attempted active shooter attack. From what I’ve read, he called a sword he owned a tool to defend the republic in a social media post. He apparently didn’t say it was to defend democracy or progressives. Still, his political ideas don’t seem to be well known (to the public), and his photo wasn’t in the linked article above (the guy on the right is though).

Other observation - when I think of who’s posting in this discussion, it’s probably 100% guys who could equip themselves and a friend each with a semi-auto rifle, mags, and gear at a moment’s notice. Probably at least half are veterans, and probably most are of above average competence with a firearm. And probably less than 10% live within a hundred miles of a center of antifa activity. So basically, we are mostly a bunch of guys who shouldn’t be easily scared, running around scared shitless over a threat that we’ll probably never encounter. I just find that ironic.

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You’re right - The guy on the left was killed in Texas last month following an attempted active shooter attack. From what I’ve read, he called a sword he owned a tool to defend the republic in a social media post. He apparently didn’t say it was to defend democracy or progressives. Still, his political ideas don’t seem to be well known (to the public), and his photo wasn’t in the linked article above (the guy on the right is though).

Other observation - when I think of who’s posting in this discussion, it’s probably 100% guys who could equip themselves and a friend each with a semi-auto rifle, mags, and gear at a moment’s notice. Probably at least half are veterans, and probably most are of above average competence with a firearm. And probably less than 10% live within a hundred miles of a center of antifa activity. So basically, we are mostly a bunch of guys who shouldn’t be easily scared, running around scared shitless over a threat that we’ll probably never encounter. I just find that ironic.
you are a denialist, you are not paying attention to what is going on,
you are instead choosing willful ignorance,
your preference for your own apathy the grounds for justifying your ignorance.

there is a cost for your denial:
sandy hoax was an information warfare operation that resulted in a denial/disruption of retail ammo distribution and supply for over 18 months straight,
and also cost the gunnies in two formerly free states a severe hit against their 2A rights -- gunnies now under criminal penalty in those two states, that had nothing to do with sandy hoax, separated geographically, the gunnies there were in no way responsible,
and the yet bolshies used operation sandy hoax as the lever by which to achieve strategic and operational dominance over those gunnies, and on the cheap.

our side got nothing out of that little trade,
the other side scored a major victory, at zero cost to themselves, a clean get away.
and most importantly, in so doing, they demonstrated just how easy it is to get what they want using manufactured crisis, misinformation, and that deniers just like you will accept it and work with them to make it happen.

antifa and BLM are useful idiots (defined as terrorist orgs, in fact), two factions of the same militant front of that 4th gen war effort against trad americans.
you are oblivious to that,
as such, denialists like you are tacit support for that same information war effort, you are also a useful idiot, by choice.
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Looks like Antifa is gunning up to prepare for the Trump "crackdown." I'm assuming they are talking about the promise to round up and deport illegal aliens. These folks have serious mental health issues.....


https://newrepublic.com/article/1541...ampaign=buffer

And a hillarious response from another site: http://www.redwhiteandfyou.com/the-l...8ACsxrVJLiRhxM






Maybe it's me but the guy on the left looks to be scared out of his mind. And the guy on the right with the relatively fresh ink looks like he's seen too many movies. Who proactively goes into a fight wearing a ring?
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Who proactively goes into a fight wearing a ring?
Probably because he's pussy whipped?

I quit wearing jewelry 40 years ago. Especially anything that can take off a finger.
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Probably because he's pussy whipped?

I quit wearing jewelry 40 years ago. Especially anything that can take off a finger.
Or an ear?
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Or an ear?
Sticking your ear in a bundle of wires and finding out there may be a nicked wire that gets grounded by an earring could be somewhat exciting. Met 2 people in my life missing their ring finger. One was from jumping off of a piece of farm equipment.
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Sticking your ear in a bundle of wires and finding out there may be a nicked wire that gets grounded by an earring could be somewhat exciting. Met 2 people in my life missing their ring finger. One was from jumping off of a piece of farm equipment.
Roofer here caught his ring finger on the gutter as he fell off the roof. Pulled every bit of flesh off and only bone left. I never wore my ring to work after that.
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I'm pretty safe I guess. I lost my wedding ring on a paint job in Temple, Texas 25 years ago now. My wife never did buy that story.
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