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Old February 13, 2020, 12:37   #1
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Proposed California Legislation Would Penalize Registered Voters Who Fail To Vote

Interesting development in California. Leave it to a democrat to punish people for not voting. They are getting desperate:

Proposed California Legislation Would Penalize Registered Voters Who Fail To Vote

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...ers-fail-vote/



KENTFIELD (KPIX 5) — Americans often celebrate the right to vote in this country, but at what point does that right become an obligation? A Marin assemblyman is proposing legislation that would penalize people who fail to cast their ballots.

North Bay State Assemblyman Marc Levine has proposed AB 2070, a bill that would require anyone registered to vote to cast a ballot in every election in the area the person resides. The ballot can be a partial one, or even left blank, but it must be cast or non-voters would be penalized.

“We need to change the culture of voting,” said Levine. “We need to make it something that people expect to do, that they know it’s a civic obligation. And with greater turnout, we can have far more positive results.”

That sounds like the heavy hand of government to Jack Wilkinson, the Chairman of the Marin County Republican Central Committee.

“Freedom is a two-sided coin. You’re free to vote or not to vote,” Wilkinson said said. “You can’t force people to do something unless you’re controlling the outcome of what they do, which is what this bill will lead to.”

“You’re forcing people to do something, which isn’t really democratic,” said College of Marin Political Science Professor Yolanda Bellisimo. She said punishing registered voters for not casting a ballot could probably increase voting a bit, but only in the short term.

“Then what you might find is that you’ll have less people registered to vote,” she said. “That defeats the purpose.”

Out on the College of Marin campus, the proposal drew a mixed response.

“If they force people to vote, it’s going to be like jury duty and people are going to hate it even more,” said student Braulio Resendiz Cordova. “We’re not supposed to hate to vote. We’re supposed to enjoy it.”

But Eric Garro, who works on campus, supports the idea of mandatory voting.

“I’m from Costa Rica and I think it’s an obligation of any citizen to come and vote,” said Garro. “If they don’t want to vote for anybody, vote for nobody. But it is an obligation to be a part of society.”

Countries like Belgium and Australia fine people for not voting. In Bolivia, if people cannot prove they voted, their salary can be withheld at the bank.

AB 2070 does not specify what the penalty should be for not voting, leaving that up to the California Secretary of State. On Monday, his office said they have taken no position on the legislation.

Levine says he just wants to encourage voting in California, even if it means forcing people to do it.
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Old February 13, 2020, 18:21   #2
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Apply to registered illegals, the incarcerated, the dead?
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Old February 13, 2020, 18:26   #3
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Apply to registered illegals, the incarcerated, the dead?
Is that a rhetorical question?

I have only seen Democrats rewarded for their weaponization of laws and their using government to selectively punish their political enemies... this new law is another example that will be selectively enforced for a political agenda.
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Progessive are too stupid to understand that their "in your face and down your throat " style of governing just makes folks angry. May they rot in a hell of their own making.
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Old February 13, 2020, 18:27   #5
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Why don't they just vote for ya?
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Old February 13, 2020, 20:08   #6
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I think people should be encouraged not to vote. We should have billboards that say

IF YOU ARE ILL-INFORMED, GULLIBLE, OR STUPID, PLEASE DON'T VOTE. YOU ARE JUST SCREWING IT UP FOR EVERYBODY.
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Old February 13, 2020, 20:54   #7
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IF you are a legal fiction and you all are dont register to vote as you are only directing your legal fiction to vote.

OHH almost forgot £UCK California!!
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Old February 13, 2020, 21:30   #8
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IF you are a legal fiction and you all are dont register to vote as you are only directing your legal fiction to vote.

OHH almost forgot £UCK California!!
Amen.
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Old February 13, 2020, 22:15   #9
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The 1st Greek Democracies sent out voter roundup crews on election day to kick ass for not putting a black or white pebble in the vote pot,,, be careful what you make law,,, a really old Greek might show up to whip your ass.
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I think people should be encouraged not to vote. We should have billboards that say

IF YOU ARE ILL-INFORMED, GULLIBLE, OR STUPID, PLEASE DON'T VOTE. YOU ARE JUST SCREWING IT UP FOR EVERYBODY.
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Old February 13, 2020, 23:35   #11
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You folks are missing the core issue

This is a reverse Poll Tax
if you don't vote the State AG gets to assess a penalty which then flows into that bankrupt State's coffers

As roughly 50% of eligible voters don't and the population of the State is close to 40 million we can extrapolate 20 million fined and it won't be for just a buck
likely something like a hundred smackers

Do the math
that's what this is about, a new financial conduit for Sacremento.

Note, this mandate is about ALL elections
even your local school board
Levine is casting an enormous net and in my opinion it's all about the Jacksons
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I wonder if that Professor feels the same way about Obama care.

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Proposed California Legislation Would Penalize Registered Voters Who Fail To Vote

KENTFIELD (KPIX 5) — Americans often celebrate the right to vote in this country, but at what point does that right become an obligation? A Marin assemblyman is proposing legislation that would penalize people who fail to cast their ballots.

You’re forcing people to do something, which isn’t really democratic,” said College of Marin Political Science Professor Yolanda Bellisimo. She said punishing registered voters for not casting a ballot could probably increase voting a bit, but only in the short term.
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Imagine the screaming and hand-wringing if a county were to pass a "YOU MUST OWN AT LEAST ONE FIREARM AND LEARN HOW TO USE IT IF YOU LIVE HERE" bill? The floors of the coronary wards in hospitals would cave in from the extra weight of the stricken bloated, putrid, fermenting, pinned, gauged, anti-life marxists that could easily pass for baby belugas that escaped from Sea World.

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Old February 14, 2020, 10:27   #14
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I think people should be encouraged not to vote. We should have billboards that say

IF YOU ARE ILL-INFORMED, GULLIBLE, OR STUPID, PLEASE DON'T VOTE. YOU ARE JUST SCREWING IT UP FOR EVERYBODY.
My Dad would refer to that crowd as "The Asshole Vote".

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I want to bring back literacy tests....................TO BUY A FRIGGIN GUN, and vote.

Too stupid to vote?...........NO GUN, ever.
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I want to bring back literacy tests....................TO BUY A FRIGGIN GUN, and vote.

Too stupid to vote?...........NO GUN, ever.
Well you give a whole new meaning to grammar nazi...
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I actually now advocate going house to house to see if the gun owner voted in 2018, and take the guns away if he did not.

A non voting gun owner is a burden to the entire republic, and the type that will eventually get red-flagged for stupidity.
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I actually now advocate going house to house to see if the gun owner voted in 2018, and take the guns away if he did not.

A non voting gun owner is a burden to the entire republic, and the type that will eventually get red-flagged for stupidity.
That's the Nazi in you, good luck with that.
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I wonder if they'll also force registered sex offenders,to go out and commit sex offenses....
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Any gunowner who does not vote,is already attacking me and my gun rights.
Think about it.

Poor Virginia..............FUCKEM
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Any gunowner who does not vote,is already attacking me and my gun rights.
Think about it.

Poor Virginia..............FUCKEM
Dude there are gun owners who are just hobbyists and could care less about your gun rights or the second amendment. They are liberal gun owners who vote "reasonable restrictions" in because guns are nothing but toys to them. If they lose their toys then they take up fishing.

If folks don't vote then take the voter registration from them. Get them off the rolls and make them register again if they want to vote. The rolls are used to cheat by casting fake ballots, clear the rolls and they can't cheat.

Kicking in gun owners doors you will find two types. The first you don't have to kick in their doors because guns are just a hobby and they will give them up in a heartbeat. The second will fight the Nazi fking behavior but go ahead and lead the charge and be just like the commies you say you dispise.
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Any gunowner who does not vote,is already attacking me and my gun rights.
Think about it.

Poor Virginia..............FUCKEM
Except that it's the urban areas with high liberal/minority voting populaces which gain the most votes,and hence,determine the course for the whole state,even though Richmond in no way,represents the will of the rural areas and small towns.
Add to that,vote fraud. The last thing the leftist wants is accuracy and accountability in the voting process.
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Old February 15, 2020, 21:39   #23
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Except that it's the urban areas with high liberal/minority voting populaces which gain the most votes,and hence,determine the course for the whole state,even though Richmond in no way,represents the will of the rural areas and small towns.
Add to that,vote fraud. The last thing the leftist wants is accuracy and accountability in the voting process.
Very same thing here in Massachusetts for the most part....Major cities like Boston, Cambridge, Arlington, and a few liberal outposts push their agendas with tons of cash and generations of politicians that keep the pushing new insane laws by the day.
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504.....

Been done! iirc, by Kennesaw. GA, in rebuttal to Milton Grove, IL (?) way. back when.
It was a hoot watching alla the libs heads kersplode
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ONLY 25% TURNOUT FOR VIRGINIA'S REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN 2018.

FACT.
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ONLY 25% TURNOUT FOR VIRGINIA'S REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN 2018.

FACT.
Or the software used to count the votes manipulated the data.
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