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Old June 23, 2019, 13:13   #1
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Woodland and desert camo HKs?

What timeframe were the woodland and desert camo HK 91s and 93s mfg’d/marketed? I seem to recall reading somewhere along the line that, while “factory,” the camo jobs were actually done by a contractor in FL and didn’t hold up well to use?

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Old June 23, 2019, 18:17   #2
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Tony aka AGG is the god when it comes to these questions.

He has a data base second to none.
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Old June 23, 2019, 18:26   #3
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Paging AGG, paging AGG...
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yes, subcontractor. And I also understand it was in FL. And it was shit. Spray a little floor epoxy and viola!

But it's shit that HK sold, so now it's collectible.

The woodland 93 I have documented was a 33 barrel so has the extended flash hider welded (33 barrel < 16") but the desert one has the standard flash and a >16' barrel. So my guess is post 1980. Maybe through 86.
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When I bought my 91 back in 1986 the store had one of each color for both the 91 and 93. They were all the same price $599. Still have my 91.
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Old June 24, 2019, 09:56   #6
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HK91

- desert camo/1500 mfg. 1987-1988/400 U.S. importation/box marked “91A2C”
- woodland camo/1500 mfg. 1987-1988/300 U.S. importation/box marked “91A2C”

HK93

- desert camo/1500 mfg. 1987-1988/400 U.S. importation/box marked “93A2C”/styrofoam box marked “HK 93 A2 DESERT CAMO/barcode/HK720540 serial number 750312”
- woodland camo/1500 mfg. 1987-1988/300 U.S. importation/box marked “93A2C”

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Thank you all for the info.
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Old June 24, 2019, 21:44   #8
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Then there is this desert camo one.

With the longer pinned flash hider.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/819381245
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Then there is this desert camo one.

With the longer pinned flash hider.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/819381245
I’m sure this will bring insane money as most NIB HKs have lately.
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Is the company that painted them still in business? Anyone out there that can copy the original pattern and colors?
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Then there is this desert camo one.

With the longer pinned flash hider.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/819381245
Man, there's a lot of overspray in that camo job. Looks like a real "rush" job to me, but still a very cool bit of history.
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Is the company that painted them still in business? Anyone out there that can copy the original pattern and colors?
It would take a lot of skill to duplicate such a shitty job, but I could probably pull it off. I mean- look at my perfect Rhodpat replicas.
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Looks like you would hang it from a swing set with a string through the flashhider after painting a base color, then spin it slowly while moving a can of krypton from top to bottom
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Looks like you would hang it from a swing set with a string through the flashhider after painting a base color, then spin it slowly while moving a can of krypton from top to bottom
That's a good description of their technique I'd say! But you won't catch Superman using that krypton spray, no matter what color.
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That's a good description of their technique I'd say! But you won't catch Superman using that krypton spray, no matter what color.
Bwahaha. Smart phone they say...didn’t keep me from looking stupid
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The desert camo furniture is molded in that color on mine and others I have seen. Stripes are painted on. Are you guys saying the stripes were painted here, not the tan?

Tony says 1500 made, 400 imported, where did the other 1100 go? Did they go to Florida to get painted first?

The woodland guns are spots of paint over a black or blu/grey 91?
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Haters gonna hate. Whatever the paint job, it's still an HK made when HK made the best. Yes, there were equals, but no better.
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Man, there's a lot of overspray in that camo job. Looks like a real "rush" job to me, but still a very cool bit of history.
Oh it's definitely a rush job. I remember the desert camo looking a lot nicer than that one.
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Oh it's definitely a rush job. I remember the desert camo looking a lot nicer than that one.
It’s already up to $5500 with 7+ days left. Same seller has a desert camo 91 that’s passed $5k
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Minutes left to go and both the 91 and 93 have exceeded $7k...unbelievable.
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