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Old March 24, 2020, 13:14   #1
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Trump says Easter

Yep, Trump today, echoed what Cuomo ALSO admitted today: THAT 98% of persons either cure themselves of Covid-19 or have ALREADY done so. ALREADY DONE SO... OR ARE DOiNG SO.

Only 2% --the very old will get it and die.

THAT means, a secret study of the new proposed antibody test, has shown the officials the stark truth----C-19 has already done most of its spread and most have been cured.

Cuomo admitted that he is just trying to save his 90 year old mother and other old folks, by shutting down NYC/NYS.

In other words, if we had just let it go...........mostly the old and other vulnerable people, would have still gotten sick at work, while the rest of, the USA went about its business, LIKE DURING A NORMAL cold/FLU SEASON, gotten sick and gotten cured; `1-2% death rate. If you need a ventilator you are about finished.

Trump says that he anticipates lifting the shutdowns by Easter, but NYC may stay in quarrantine for weeks.

The democrats bald faced attempt to shove thu the bloated bailout bill must be crushed, as this latest, Mueller/Russia/Ukraine/Impeachment scam.

They cannot allow the election.......and Trump has given the date it all gets back on track with Trump Rallies.

What does China do now? What does the DNC/Soros do now?
The cures of Hydro and zpak still exist for the most ill.

Has Trump won it all again?

Dr Fauci now refuses to be seen with Trump, as Trump is shutting down the Deep States gleefully awaited, long term control of the USA. Fauci is against the Hydro treatment.

The CDC has also pretty obviously been cut OUT of the Covid 19 Task Force, as it too wanted this crisis to last 3 years, and to manage it like the Hollywood movie CONTAGION............. and Trump told them to stuff it.
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I believe he is fixing to put the hammer down on a certain Country and certain people.
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It was all a ruse to get the swing voter to side with the Wall being finished! Duh!
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I think POTUS is overly optimistic about the situation.
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Confirmed case (thatís ONLY confirmed- there arenít enough tests) double in NYS every three days.

Surgeon General said 80% of US will be infected. Mortality rate is 1.5% - 3%. Using the low number thatís 234,000 dead in NYS. And itís not just old people in NY- thereís not enough hospital beds, not enough ventilators, not enough meds.

So a bunch of younger people are going to die because DHS is sitting on 20,000 ventilators, because travel from NYC wasnít restricted, and because NY is first up to bat.

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Hillary will be in jail, right after Easter.

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Confirmed case (thatís ONLY confirmed- there arenít enough tests) double in NYS every three days.

Surgeon General said 80% of US will be infected.........


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Confirmed case (thatís ONLY confirmed- there arenít enough tests) double in NYS every three days.

Surgeon General said 80% of US will be infected. Mortality rate is 1.5% - 3%. Using the low number thatís 234,000 dead in NYS. And itís not just old people in NY- thereís not enough hospital beds, not enough ventilators, not enough meds.

So a bunch of younger people are going to die because DHS is sitting on 20,000 ventilators, because travel from NYC wasnít restricted, and because NY is first up to bat.

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Confirmed case (that’s ONLY confirmed- there aren’t enough tests) double in NYS every three days.

Surgeon General said 80% of US will be infected. Mortality rate is 1.5% - 3%. Using the low number that’s 234,000 dead in NYS. And it’s not just old people in NY- there’s not enough hospital beds, not enough ventilators, not enough meds.

So a bunch of younger people are going to die because DHS is sitting on 20,000 ventilators, because travel from NYC wasn’t restricted, and because NY is first up to bat.

I hope I’m wrong, but I’m rarely wrong.
I suspect your take will be closer to the outcome than Vgoof's fantasy.





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I think older people need to be gotten rid of so young people can get their fair share of the wealth and not waste it on Medicare and SS.
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The whole thing is probably a good argument against public transportation and cramming everyone in subways and trains.
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the relief package is six trillion debtbux.

that is to say: the wealth of the nation is inflated/devalued by that same six trillion debtbux, plus interest/penalties/fees/admin costs, proportionally.
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the relief package is six trillion debtbux.

that is to say: the wealth of the nation is inflated/devalued by that same six trillion debtbux, plus interest/penalties/fees/admin costs, proportionally.

Whose going to pay for that? The most entitled generation that ever existed? The boomers?

No because they are going to die off in a few years but they have no problem bankrupting this country on their way out.

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Confirmed case (thatís ONLY confirmed- there arenít enough tests) double in NYS every three days.

Surgeon General said 80% of US will be infected. Mortality rate is 1.5% - 3%. Using the low number thatís 234,000 dead in NYS. And itís not just old people in NY- thereís not enough hospital beds, not enough ventilators, not enough meds.

So a bunch of younger people are going to die because DHS is sitting on 20,000 ventilators, because travel from NYC wasnít restricted, and because NY is first up to bat.

I hope Iím wrong, but Iím rarely wrong.
I think the mortality rate is closer to 0.5% of those who contract the infection. I hope I'm right. I usually am.

If you are looking at the entire population I think the mortality rate is less than 0.1% (including those who do not contract the virus).
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Whose going to pay for that? The most entitled generation that ever existed? The boomers?

No because they are going to die off in a few years but they have no problem bankrupting this country on their way out.
yes boomers home buying mortgages were paid off long ago, boomerwealth will actually increase in value due to this restructuring.

this six trillion debtbux is borrowed against the gross lifetime product of their great grand kids, and great great grand kids not yet born.


any remnant of hope millennials and subsequent generations ever had for a shot at home buying, a shot at to be allowed to climb on the lowest rung of the economic middle class ladder, has been obliterated.

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The whole thing is probably a good argument against public transportation and cramming everyone in subways and trains.
There will be a bunch of take-aways from this whole thing once the rubble quits smoking. I look for this to be one of them.
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I think the mortality rate is closer to 0.5% of those who contract the infection. I hope I'm right. I usually am.

If you are looking at the entire population I think the mortality rate is less than 0.1% (including those who do not contract the virus).
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this six trillion debtbux is borrowed against the gross lifetime product of their great grand kids, and great great grand kids not yet born.
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In truth it's 'borrowed' against nothing at all. It looks like borrowing from this side of the fence. From where the FedRes is sitting its money they must print in order to continue business as it has existed for the last 100+ years. The risk to them is that folks will one day start asking themselves how is it that it can be so easy to create six trillion dollars and begin researching how this thing actually works. This is the stuff that gives 'em nightmares, and why I continue harping on it.

Frankly at this point it is tough to say who is extorting whom, and at some level it doesn't even matter.
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In truth it's 'borrowed' against nothing at all. It looks like borrowing from this side of the fence. From where the FedRes is sitting its money they must print in order to continue business as it has existed for the last 100+ years. The risk to them is that folks will one day start asking themselves how is it that it can be so easy to create six trillion dollars and begin researching how this thing actually works. This is the stuff that gives 'em nightmares, and why I continue harping on it.

Frankly at this point it is tough to say who is extorting whom, and at some level it doesn't even matter.
have to disagree with your argument, the relief package is indeed borrowed (plus fees/interest/penalties/admin costs) against the the existing wealth control system, backed by the willingness of speculators to speculate/gamble/"buy" on the probability that the debtbux+ will be "repaid" by collections arm of the fed res, on the way to being folded into derivatives.

in other words it is a wealth redistribution/inflation scheme,
where by the first user (the financial debt servicing/investment banking cartel interests) that get to use the debtbux before they are recirculated down to the little people, the debt banks do suck most of the value out of the revaluation of the "new" currency.

by the time it trickles down to the little people to use it, there is virtually no value left,
but those associated penalties/fees/interest/admin costs remain forever.

as you point out, there is always more debt than money to pay it off, because feature, not a bug.

the six trillion debtbux will never be paid back, it is just more debt load snowballed up against potential future productivity.



any one care to estimate the debt load of six trillion debtbux plus interest/fees/admin costs over say a period of time of three months?

how bout three years?
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You cant pay a debt with debt..

Or if you would say its not debt is money, NO ITS NOT, Notice on every "Bill" in your wallet it has the word "Note" on it.

A note is a promise to pay.

Google blacks law dictionary for the word note.

Its a collapsed system this fractional reserve system, oh and since im talking here the federal reserve bank / system is no more a part of the government than the package delivery system known as FedEx is!!!



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have to disagree with your argument, the relief package is indeed borrowed (plus fees/interest/penalties/admin costs) against the the existing wealth control system, backed by the willingness of speculators to speculate/gamble/"buy" on the probability that the debtbux+ will be "repaid" by collections arm of the fed res, on the way to being folded into derivatives.

in other words it is a wealth redistribution/inflation scheme,
where by the first user (the financial debt servicing/investment banking cartel interests) that get to use the debtbux before they are recirculated down to the little people, the debt banks do suck most of the value out of the revaluation of the "new" currency.

by the time it trickles down to the little people to use it, there is virtually no value left,
but those associated penalties/fees/interest/admin costs remain forever.

as you point out, there is always more debt than money to pay it off, because feature, not a bug.

the six trillion debtbux will never be paid back, it is just more debt load snowballed up against potential future productivity.



any one care to estimate the debt load of six trillion debtbux plus interest/fees/admin costs over say a period of time of three months?

how bout three years?
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Trump signs this and he'll lose every member of Gen X and younger.
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have to disagree with your argument, the relief package is indeed borrowed (plus fees/interest/penalties/admin costs) against the the existing wealth control system, backed by the willingness of speculators to speculate/gamble/"buy" on the probability that the debtbux+ will be "repaid" by collections arm of the fed res, on the way to being folded into derivatives.
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Again, as I said. Nothing at all.
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You cant pay a debt with debt..

Or if you would say its not debt is money, NO ITS NOT, Notice on every "Bill" in your wallet it has the word "Note" on it.

A note is a promise to pay.

Google blacks law dictionary for the word note.

Its a collapsed system this fractional reserve system, oh and since im talking here the federal reserve bank / system is no more a part of the government than the package delivery system known as FedEx is!!!
It is money, or more accurately dollars.. You cannot have dollars without debt and debt creates dollars. Like matter and energy, heads or tails it is two sides of the same coin. Is this how it should be? Dunno, don't think I'd set it up this way. But it is what it is and arguing against what is will go nowhere. Where this really ought to lead is a discussion of how things ought to be but it would appear that an amount of normalcy bias keeps folks from letting go of the idea that money has to be a thing. Ergo the endless, circular arguments about this.
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Trump signs this and he'll lose every member of Gen X and younger.
Why?

People younger than Gen X don't understand economics, and Gen X is pragmatic enough to understand some kind of 'bailout' as it were is necessary and wants to have some chance at retirement.

Six Trillion is ludicrous, though...I agree.

It's so ludicrous why not just make it 20 trillion and buy everyone a new car while they're at it?
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No its not, as dollars are defined as xx number grains of silver or gold.

As defined in the coinage act of 1792.

You can discharge a debt without value but you cannot pay a debt.

And with a fradulent currency (one without value but acts like it has actual value) all you can do is discharge the debt.

Money does have to be a thing as its written in law that this basis is a requirement.

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It is money, or more accurately dollars.. You cannot have dollars without debt and debt creates dollars. Like matter and energy, heads or tails it is two sides of the same coin. Is this how it should be? Dunno, don't think I'd set it up this way. But it is what it is and arguing against what is will go nowhere. Where this really ought to lead is a discussion of how things ought to be but it would appear that an amount of normalcy bias keeps folks from letting go of the idea that money has to be a thing. Ergo the endless, circular arguments about this.
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Again, as I said. Nothing at all.
that is where I have to disagree--re the "promise to pay" (english translation: "promise to collect") via the full faith n credit clause is not "nothing at all"--

it is something: it is legally actionable claim, complete with monetary value assigned to that associated civil action.



a different conversation could be had as to the legitimacy/lack thereof of specifics of that civil action.

in particular one argument would be that claim is fraud, for instance.
see proposal posted above for how that goes--notice that "triage" is not limited only to the wu flu, I would expand that to the ship of state as a whole.

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No its not, as dollars are defined as xx number grains of silver or gold.

As defined in the coinage act of 1792.

You can discharge a debt without value but you cannot pay a debt.

And with a fradulent currency (one without value but acts like it has actual value) all you can do is discharge the debt.

Money does have to be a thing as its written in law that this basis is a requirement.
Nope, a thing is what it is and reality doesn't care what politicians vote it to be. Not so long ago the Indiana state legislature famously passed a law that made Pi exactly equal to 3.14 but guess what, the number Pi didn't give a flying fart in a hurricane what the legislature thought of it.

Like an irrational number, lots of silly folks (politicians, as a rule are pretty silly) have trouble getting their heads around what money really is. Money does not need to be written in law, people have been using money before there were laws. But if you want to enforce a monopoly on the creation and management of a money system laws do help.

As to the coinage act of 1792, well a whole lot has changed since then including the Bank of the US, the Greenback, Banknotes and of course the FedRes. All backed by legal instruments as well. The fact that it's on the books in any form at all only speaks to the sloppiness of the lawmakers insofar as not cleaning up their own crap.
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No its not, as dollars are defined as xx number grains of silver or gold.

As defined in the coinage act of 1792.

You can discharge a debt without value but you cannot pay a debt.

And with a fradulent currency (one without value but acts like it has actual value) all you can do is discharge the debt.

Money does have to be a thing as its written in law that this basis is a requirement.
Substance means exactly nothing to those that seek to profit from debt.

You are exactly right, and at the same time Bubbs is, too - insomuch as the majority don't understand or care about the facts as you have stated.

Natural law will ultimately show the difference in substance (an actual dollar) and a made up "value" (Fedres note).

This is kind of like Bruce Jenner being a woman, you can make him resemble a woman to some extent, millions can accept him as a woman, but ultimately he's a "man". Debt is debt, a dollar is a dollar, period.

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The country needs to go back to work! Trump said it correctly - "We can't allow the cure to be worse than the disease".

Its now obvious who all the little aspiring dictators are in certain state houses and mayor's office around the country.

Besides... Gov. Coonman closed down my neighborhood craft beer tap room AND I'M PISSED!
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Its now obvious who all the little aspiring dictators are in certain state houses and mayor's office around the country.
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also obvious that most like it that way.

freedom ain't free, it has to be actively protected and promoted.

protecting and promoting freedom requires certain choices, the personal willingness and ability to make it so, and the political will to manifest same, against all comers.

freedom and liberty ain't for everyone, most simply don't have it in em.
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freedom and liberty ain't for everyone, most simply don't have it in em.
... true dat ^^^
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Confirmed case (that’s ONLY confirmed- there aren’t enough tests) double in NYS every three days.

Surgeon General said 80% of US will be infected. Mortality rate is 1.5% - 3%. Using the low number that’s 234,000 dead in NYS. And it’s not just old people in NY- there’s not enough hospital beds, not enough ventilators, not enough meds.

So a bunch of younger people are going to die because DHS is sitting on 20,000 ventilators, because travel from NYC wasn’t restricted, and because NY is first up to bat.

I hope I’m wrong, but I’m rarely wrong.
Why can't people in the media get this through their heads? Yes, 80% of the population could get infected.. that does not in any way mean that 1.5% of those people are going to die. Right now we are only testing people that are showing symptoms and are high risk patients. The current death rate is based on those numbers only and has nothing to do with the actual number of people that are currently walking around and have already had the virus and have shown no symptoms or had symptoms but wrote it off as a bad cold. We have absolutely no idea of how many people currently have the virus or had it and recovered. For all we know 80% of the population right now could be walking around with it. Without testing random samples of the population we can't deduce a real death rate, it's all a guess.

Right now all we can truly say is that of X number people that have tested positive, Y number of people died.

Using the numbers the way that they are currently being used based on the information that is being collected you would say that the swine flu had a 5.1% death rate as 240,000 people were diagnosed and hospitalized and 12,400 died, the CDC later determined that it is likely that 50 million people in the US had it which moves the death rate to .02%. Using the same numbers based on the 2018-2019 flu season the death rate was 6.9% based on 490k diagnosed and hospitalized and 34,200 deaths.. but the estimate of the actual number of people that likely had it is 35 million which moves the death rate to .09%.
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Does this look like "..by Easter..." to you?

would some professionals care to make intelligent comment on that please? medicmike?

what are we lookin at going on here? best case worst/case/probable?



that looks like salvation, mana from heaven,
--or in this case, help in dire circumstances, courtesy of Donald J Trump and the republican party.

did some digging, those crates appear to be the same ones used for the CDC Strategic National Stockpile of PPE, inside are masks, gowns, gloves, gear for dealing with bio warfare, or cleanup thereof.
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Trump signs this and he'll lose every member of Gen X and younger.
Nah. Most of us understand the national debt and realize we're all f^cked. We just want to get on about our lives, pay our taxes, mortgages, etc. We're all watching the Baby Boomer generation flush our grandkids' futures away and watching in numb horror as things spiral worse and worse....
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Why can't people in the media get this through their heads? Yes, 80% of the population could get infected.. that does not in any way mean that 1.5% of those people are going to die. Right now we are only testing people that are showing symptoms and are high risk patients. The current death rate is based on those numbers only and has nothing to do with the actual number of people that are currently walking around and have already had the virus and have shown no symptoms or had symptoms but wrote it off as a bad cold. We have absolutely no idea of how many people currently have the virus or had it and recovered. For all we know 80% of the population right now could be walking around with it. Without testing random samples of the population we can't deduce a real death rate, it's all a guess.


Well we have S Korea which aggressively tracked down and tested anyone and everyone they thought was exposed.

Since their outbreak has been mostly squashed not many asymptomatic spreaders could have escaped detection.

So using S Koreas numbers 1.3% was the fatality rate.

However, a large portion of people that caught it were part of the large church group over represented by young women, the mostly unlikely group to die from it.
Plus SK has an excellent socialized HC system that was never overwhelmed.
And typical S Koreans do not have all the existing medical conditions that typical Americans have.

So I believe with those factors our death rate will be much higher than 1.3%.





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This is a big shit sandwich and we are all going to have to take a bite. If we shut it down the death toll will be lower, if we don't shut it down we drive the economy off a cliff and that'll cost some lives too. I sure as hell don't pretend to know the correct answer so I'll just keep on keeping on and hope for the best...This is a hell of a Catch 22
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OH NO! WWWHFHDLBBADBPSAZAAO'GMFCVAMVGWGENACGBSSHCRD?

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This is a big shit sandwich and we are all going to have to take a bite. If we shut it down the death toll will be lower, if we don't shut it down we drive the economy off a cliff and that'll cost some lives too. I sure as hell don't pretend to know the correct answer so I'll just keep on keeping on and hope for the best...This is a hell of a Catch 22
Respecting your direct involvement with this issue, is still have to admit that the more I read, the confuseder I get about the total ramifications with this virus. Opinions abound from doctors on every corner, who to believe. I hear the method of death is ugly, attacking the lungs like it is purported to do. Cancer is ugly, numerous other last stage ailments are ugly. This is just one more "ugly" added to the list. As an over 60 "student", I am trying to go along to get along with the edicts of our guvnah and the rest of the people apparently in the know.

The link below is just one more that lends question to the term pandemic assigned to this virus.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...ter-as-a-dire/

In the three months or so since it started, the new coronavirus and its related COVID-19 disease – which emerged in the Chinese province of Hubei late in 2019 and now numbers more than 110,000 cases around the world – have caused more than 4,000 deaths, mostly in China. As the case numbers grow around the world, including in Canada, where there are now more than 70 cases, people have become concerned that a pandemic is inevitable.

But in the same three months, there have been about three million deaths in China from other causes, and about 14 million deaths worldwide. During the same three-month period, according to Health Canada, there have been almost 10,000 deaths in Canada from tobacco addiction, for instance – and just one from COVID-19.

Is COVID-19 a global crisis? Certainly for people who can’t add.
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^^^yup. You go in search of something you will find it due to test bias. I'd like to know how come they aren't able to report how many may have already had it and it has cleared? Because they aren't looking for that. This would also affect the numbers downward with respect to mortality.

There is no information out there that is succinct. No real demographical data. Nothing but a bunch of noise touted as data. I suspect many have had it already and it was passed off as the routine flu before this propaganda machine got rolling to get the sheep herding to their respective shearing stations.
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Well the dipshit MN Governor just issued an EO calling for folks to shelter in place

It's all stupid as a rock
bars & resturants have already been closed for nearly two weeks
now it's another couple weeks

Oh' you can leave the home to walk the dog, even hunting/fishing are exempted activities
liquor stores are essential businesses as are breweries/distilleries
filling the car up, grocery or hardware shopping are permited

Now let's apply a common sense metric:

as of today MN has had 287 "cases", ONE death
wanna take a stab at how many came down with the common flu this season in MN, how many died ?
yeah Thousands of flu cases, a few dozen dead from it
Think on those numbers some

Here's another one
those 287 cases ?
They are all well over a hundred miles away
Oh we had a bunch of flu up here this season, few passed away from it too
no Carona though and no shutdowns or panic over what was really killing in numbers far in excess of this over hyped new flu
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IF,,I were to set out to wreck the worlds economy,,,scare the hell out of people to get them to agree to damn near anything,,,change the political landscape to something other than capitalism,,say to socialist/communist,,,concentrate all real power into the hands of a select few,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Then this is how its done,,, with this virus.
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IF,,I were to set out to wreck the worlds economy,,,scare the hell out of people to get them to agree to damn near anything,,,change the political landscape to something other than capitalism,,say to socialist/communist,,,concentrate all real power into the hands of a select few,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Then this is how its done,,, with this virus.
Check this AP article out
EIGHTY THOUSAND Americans died during the 2017/18 flu season !

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/...deaths-winter/

scores of Men, wimmins & children Gone
did anyone say boo about it ?
There's a method behind this current madness
you better believe there is
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Dear Mr.
Thank you for your generous words of encouragement and your prayers.

The firm resolve of the American people to face challenges boldly is a great blessing to our country. I remain confident that together, with trust in God, we will overcome any hardship and build a stronger and more unified country for future generations.

I appreciate you taking the time to write. Your support means a great deal to Melania and me.

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^^^^^^ Serious Question^^^^^^^^

Serious question

Been wondering for a while, and have tried to discuss with the few people who will even listen.

IF the Beast had won in 2016-

WOULD this current full tilt panic reaction even have occurred.

I'm not doubting some bug got out, and that folks have gotten sick, or even died.

There are some things going on, in multiple states, policy wise, politically, procedurally, that I don't think would be happening- if it were NOT an election cycle, and if DJT wasn't driving the bus.

I don't know how else to say it, but this whole mess, just has a whole lot of wrong, intertwined with it. Multiple people at multiple levels, implementing their own little (il)legal fiats, hoping folks will just obey and not question them.

Just a whole lot of not so funny business going on. And I think we all know, once one of these edicts sticks, damn near impossible to undo it.

From what little I've bothered to watch on the idiot box, it seems that many are damn near cheering for a recession, or to make it seem like DJT doesn't give a damn how many die, or that he just doesn't give a damn at all. They really seem to be banging those drums every chance they can get.

Been wondering what percentage of average people believe them, being bombarded with this stuff 25/8/366.

Wonder if CV, is DJT's Katrina.
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