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Old January 29, 2020, 18:40   #1
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STEEL charging handle

Does anyone make a STEEL charging handle so you can rap on it if you need too?

I'm much rather rap on the Tee handle then "pogo stick" the rifle if I have to.
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Old January 29, 2020, 18:56   #2
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DSA arms makes one
https://www.dsarms.com/p-15802-dsa-a...ard-latch.aspx
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Old January 29, 2020, 21:53   #3
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If you put a steel handle into an aluminum receiver, you will be replacing an aluminum receiver.
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Old January 29, 2020, 22:31   #4
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If you put a steel handle into an aluminum receiver, you will be replacing an aluminum receiver.
How so? I don't plan on beating it with a 4 pound hammer.

What are your thoughts on this?
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Old January 30, 2020, 09:11   #5
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If you put a steel handle into an aluminum receiver, you will be replacing an aluminum receiver.
I'm guessing that since steel is harder than aluminum that the reciever will wear faster.
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Old January 30, 2020, 12:42   #6
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A non-recoprocating part that is only occasionally operated? Will it wear out the upper just like the BCG renders them useless in short time?
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Old January 30, 2020, 15:54   #7
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Why not just use a block of pine between the aluminum charging handle and the beatin’ tool (a rock or something)?
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Old February 02, 2020, 07:47   #8
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What are you doing to your AR to necessitate this?
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Old February 02, 2020, 08:51   #9
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Does anyone make a STEEL charging handle so you can rap on it if you need too?

I'm much rather rap on the Tee handle then "pogo stick" the rifle if I have to.
Don't smack the charge handle. . . "mortar" it. Hold the handle in one hand, control the muzzle with the other, and rap the butt on the ground. Creates great inertia and doesn't bend the shaft of the charge handle. Rapping on the knob is useless. Pogo stick is less effective and also dangerous and much more likely to damage.

Edit. Oh, I see we're talking mouse guns. When it came up in my new posts, I did not see it was in the AR section.

Same same applies, but collapse the stock first. How the heck do you pogo an AR?
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Old February 02, 2020, 16:29   #10
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What are you doing to your AR to necessitate this?
out of 600 rounds I had one STICK in the chamber. I believe it is due in part to the barrel being 18 inches and having a "carbine length" gas tube. I bought it that way from bear creek arsenal. So the bolt is trying to open too soon IMHO.
that's my best guess. Factory ammo too..


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How the heck do you pogo an AR?
Same way you described it, grab the charging handle and pull toward the rear and rap the but on the ground while watching where that muzzle is pointed.
that is what I call pogo-sticking it.
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Same way you described it, grab the charging handle and pull toward the rear and rap the but on the ground while watching where that muzzle is pointed.
that is what I call pogo-sticking it.
Not pogo. I assumed a person of your generation would have had a p[ogo stick at some point. I did, but I turned it into a play anti-aircraft gun.

Pogo-ing is holding the muzzle and stomping on the charge handle.

What you are describing is mortaring, as it is akin to (sortof?) to operating a knee mortar.
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Old February 02, 2020, 16:45   #12
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I'm going to have to hook up with you some day in the near future Mark.
Lunch and 10 minutes of your time?
Don't ask me how, but I bet I put less then 60 rounds through my SAR 48 and damned if I can turn that gas adjuster even after hitting it with Break Free.
Course, my arthritic weak assed fingers don't help much.
I don't want to bugger it up with a visegrip!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm going to have to hook up with you some day in the near future Mark.
Lunch and 10 minutes of your time?
Don't ask me how, but I bet I put less then 60 rounds through my SAR 48 and damned if I can turn that gas adjuster even after hitting it with Break Free.
Course, my arthritic weak assed fingers don't help much.
I don't want to bugger it up with a visegrip!!!!!!!!!!
I have channel locks that I've reshaped to match the regulator and gas tube support. By having equal pressure on both sides, I can usually turn stuck regulators w/o damage. just bring it by sometime - e-mail me when.
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Old February 02, 2020, 21:39   #14
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Have 30+ year old ARs with steel charging handles and not a single worn upper from how little actual charging a fresh round is required. In my build locker keep three different charging handles in stock. Milspec aluminum, steel and ambidextrous. Use them about equally, as put ambidextrous when use a big scope that may interfere with easy operation, steel for extra durable fighting rifles which build with intent to hopefully never see a part break and milspec aluminum for the rest. None is better than the other in all applications.

Only rifles have ever dealt with that had badly stuck rounds or cases have been other owners. Most of the broken lowers I have seen was where someone took a tactical rifle class and during the part of class where they teach weekend operators to clear a stuck round the guys with polymer lowers and occasionally an aluminum lower have a complete separation or nice crack at rear pin hole separating the front of lower from buffer tube.

May be pure luck or feeding good ammo to good rifles why mine seem to cycle enough when adjusting gas on a new build, can fish a case that didn't fully extract out easly. Keep a multi-tool, broken case remover and brass rod in range kit that allows me to tap them out from the muzzle. Usually a second hand cycling will allow extractor to get a good enough grip to pull one out unless owner was shooting steel cases and tried to remove stuck case violently as learned on uTube.

Kind of like a forward assist and reason I have so many slick side uppers without forward assist these days as seems to be something don't need often and reason for scallop in bolt carrier is to push bolt forward with thumb. When someone on range or elsewhere needs help with stuck case my general idea is clear as gently as possible.
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I run 4 or 5 Billet Steel jobs from "Power Custom" .. They have changed the name but a search for "power custom" will get you there ..

I also run a few aftermarket aluminum that seem to be made a little heavier .. Bravo Co. comes to mind ..

Ron Power's stuff is not cheap but his CH's do not feel like they about to break, like a standard M4 handle does .. CNC'd Billet Steel, so you get what you pay for .. mine are smooth and lock up tight ..

no need to worry about "wear" .. if the Carrier doesn't get it nothing will .. !!



ETA: I edit this post to swear I have never bent or broke an aluminum AR CH of any kind, anywhere .. !! .. They just feel cheap .. !!
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Old February 24, 2020, 02:54   #16
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Never had to pogo stick one and only had to motar a stuck case one time.
Most range trips I carry a GI cleaning rod with a brass attachment screwed on the end and a small hammer but I have yet to have a reason to use it.
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