The FAL Files  

Go Back   The FAL Files > Weapon Specific Forums > The AK Files

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old February 10, 2020, 11:28   #1
straycat23
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 59479
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: TN
Posts: 67
Difference Between Valmet M71 and M76

Trying to learn about these rifles. What makes Valmets the Cadillac of AK's? What is the difference in these two models?
straycat23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 10, 2020, 11:40   #2
jjjxlr8
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 34903
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ohio
Posts: 422
The Finnish are great at making Russian designs better. I suppose it's the attention to detail.

The main difference between the M71 and M76 is the positions of the front and rear sights.
jjjxlr8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 10, 2020, 11:41   #3
imacoonass01
Curio & Relic
Silver Contributor
 
imacoonass01's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 80275
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Vidor, TX
Posts: 2,457
This:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/ak-47/-/92-74469/&page=1
__________________
You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas. - - Davy Crockett
imacoonass01 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old February 10, 2020, 12:00   #4
straycat23
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 59479
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: TN
Posts: 67
Thank you
straycat23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 10, 2020, 21:28   #5
FALfail
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 81159
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 14
What's a very good condition M76 going for these days?
FALfail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 14, 2020, 18:53   #6
jjjxlr8
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 34903
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ohio
Posts: 422
Which model? Wood buttstock? Is the buttplate cracked? How many original M76 mags? Accessories?
jjjxlr8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 14, 2020, 23:04   #7
Riversidesports
keeping it cool
Silver Contributor
 
FALaholic #: 36091
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 7,363
71s were .223, as I recall the later M76 was available in 762x39 as well
71s were fixed stock guns, the other was available either fixed or folder

The best were the M62S

Valuation on these is full on retarded in my opinion driven by internet silliness
early December 2019, just a couple months back an old timer had a mint M62S and a mint .308 Valmet M78 on his tables. The M78 was tagged at $1800, the other 400 more
Decent sized show and no interest
He did sell both of his Poly Tech folders at $1200

Auction price on either Valmet ?
an easy 5K+
end of the show I explained things, told him to jack his prices by a grand
chances are I will end up helping him move them. Totally non internet guy

71s are the lower priced of the Vamet line, sometimes the Bullpup 81s go real low too. Past year I saw a wood stocked 71 not sell tagged at 1300 at a show, Convinced the guy to list it on GB and it went over 3K, I ended up with a couple hundred in free booze for offering that direction.

of all the AK variants they are the best built by a landside
that said there are folks who inflate valuation to insane levels
worse, there are plenty with a big wad of cash seeking instant gratification who thus then establish a new market price once a sale is made
Riversidesports is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 14, 2020, 23:24   #8
VALMET
Curio & Relic
Bronze Contributor
 
VALMET's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 1826
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 3,367
M-71 Valmets have stamped receivers,a shorter LOP and were offered on the US commercial market with synthetic or wood stocks. They have traditional AK sights, while the 62/76s had rear sights mounted to the rear of the dust covers and front sights mounted on the front of the gas tubes.

The 71 was mfg’d for export in 7.62x39 with a fixed tube stock but none ever made it into the US as far as I’m aware.
__________________
"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is a symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." -George Orwell, 1940.

"Dammit Smithers this is brain surgery, not rocket science. Now hand me that ice-cream scoop! -C. Montgomery Burns
VALMET is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 15, 2020, 09:21   #9
Texgunner
long-time Texas taxpayer
Silver Contributor
 
Texgunner's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 4653
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Brokenoak in central Texas-Milam county
Posts: 9,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by VALMET View Post
M-71 Valmets have stamped receivers,a shorter LOP and were offered on the US commercial market with synthetic or wood stocks. They have traditional AK sights, while the 62/76s had rear sights mounted to the rear of the dust covers and front sights mounted on the front of the gas tubes.

The 71 was mfgd for export in 7.62x39 with a fixed tube stock but none ever made it into the US as far as Im aware.
I know I've shown you this pic before but can't recall what model you called it. Traditional AK sights with a milled receiver, synthetic handguards and wood stock, in 5.56 caliber? Please excuse the poor pic; the rifle belonged to a friend years ago and this scanned print is the only one I have.

__________________
Everybody has a right to express what he thinks. That, of course, lets the crackpots in. But if
you cannot tell a crackpot when you see one, then you ought to be taken in.

Harry Truman


"The rock of democracy will founder when people think of people unlike themselves as the "other"-Teddy Roosevelt

My daddy was a cowboy in his younger days, wild as the west Texas wind. He once told me, "Son, death is a horse you got to ride. So you better get your saddle ready."-Mick "Pappy" Connors

Know your rights; the future is unwritten.
Texgunner is online now   Reply With Quote
Old February 15, 2020, 11:45   #10
jjjxlr8
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 34903
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ohio
Posts: 422
The rifle pictured above is the typical M71 in .223. Stamped receiver, not milled. I think they were officially called M71WS for wood stock.

Here's the M76 (folding stock) - notice the position of the sights. They are just like the Galil where the M71 sights are positioned like an AK.


Last edited by jjjxlr8; February 15, 2020 at 11:59. Reason: added M76 photo
jjjxlr8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 15, 2020, 14:17   #11
Texgunner
long-time Texas taxpayer
Silver Contributor
 
Texgunner's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 4653
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Brokenoak in central Texas-Milam county
Posts: 9,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjjxlr8 View Post
The rifle pictured above is the typical M71 in .223. Stamped receiver, not milled. I think they were officially called M71WS for wood stock.

Here's the M76 (folding stock) - notice the position of the sights. They are just like the Galil where the M71 sights are positioned like an AK.

Of course; now I'm sitting here looking at the rivets for the front and rear trunnions. Sucks gettin' old! Thanks for the correction sir!
__________________
Everybody has a right to express what he thinks. That, of course, lets the crackpots in. But if
you cannot tell a crackpot when you see one, then you ought to be taken in.

Harry Truman


"The rock of democracy will founder when people think of people unlike themselves as the "other"-Teddy Roosevelt

My daddy was a cowboy in his younger days, wild as the west Texas wind. He once told me, "Son, death is a horse you got to ride. So you better get your saddle ready."-Mick "Pappy" Connors

Know your rights; the future is unwritten.
Texgunner is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:08.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©1998-2019 The FAL Files