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Old November 08, 2019, 12:37   #1
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All Coonan assets to go up for auction

https://www.hoffonlineauctions.com/c...4NAgWkaWKLVnJ4
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Old November 08, 2019, 13:41   #2
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Did not see any receivers/pistols,,etc,,,,,,,,wonder what happened to that left over inventory????????
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Old November 08, 2019, 13:54   #3
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Did not see any receivers/pistols,,etc,,,,,,,,wonder what happened to that left over inventory????????
Crawled away in the dark of night ?
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Old November 08, 2019, 15:15   #4
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I was always interested in their 357 1911's. Very glad I never bought one.

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Old November 08, 2019, 15:21   #5
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This is very sad. Just a few years ago, Coonan was touted by many here as the top FAL receiver manufacturer. Nobody else came close.

Then everything went sideways.
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Old November 08, 2019, 16:01   #6
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Did not see any receivers/pistols,,etc,,,,,,,,wonder what happened to that left over inventory????????
Maybe the gun parts were sold to somebody like Numrich? They still buy out retiring gunsmiths and shops closing down.
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Old November 08, 2019, 16:05   #7
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Bummer, 1 more fal business down the tube. Moses(I know, he who shall not be named)...built me a very nice imbel carbine on a coonan..served me very well and still is..
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I wonder if my wife would notice the portable shooting range in the driveway...
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Old November 08, 2019, 18:14   #9
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Hmmm . . . . do places like this ever sell their intellectual property? Like design specs, drawings, programs, to manufacture FAL receivers? That would be quite useful.
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Old November 08, 2019, 18:24   #10
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Hmmm . . . . do places like this ever sell their intellectual property? Like design specs, drawings, programs, to manufacture FAL receivers? That would be quite useful.
Exactly. I can have recievers made a mile from here. Want drawings, fixtures, etc. thatís whatís needed. Looks like someone else got them- who?
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Old November 08, 2019, 18:27   #11
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Exactly. I can have recievers made a mile from here. Want drawings, fixtures, etc. thatís whatís needed. Looks like someone else got them- who?
2 computer monitors for sale. Not the computer. To have all the coding for the machine tools and such would be nice as well
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Old November 09, 2019, 08:08   #12
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P'rolly keeping the Intellectual Property for another Phoenix like rise from the ashes. I imagine that the IP was never an asset of Coonan Inc.

Dan Coonan is nothing if not resourceful, and dishonest.
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Old November 09, 2019, 08:23   #13
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I didn't see any slitting cutters or FAL receiver fixtures in the pictures , just end mills
Anybody else see anything for the top cover or bolt grooves ?

Edit: I found some
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Old November 09, 2019, 08:30   #14
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I was always interested in their 357 1911's. Very glad I never bought one.

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P'rolly keeping the Intellectual Property for another Phoenix like rise from the ashes. I imagine that the IP was never an asset of Coonan Inc.

Dan Coonan is nothing if not resourceful, and dishonest.
Retaining IP would be the intelligent thing to do. Anybody can buy a used Haas, but the programming will cost as much or more than the machine.
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I was always interested in their 357 1911's. Very glad I never bought one.

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I was interested too, until I handled one. Felt rough. Way too rough for a $1400-$1700 pistol. Glad I passed, too.
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Maybe Century already got the "GOOD STUFF??"
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Old November 11, 2019, 18:37   #18
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Hmmm . . . . do places like this ever sell their intellectual property? Like design specs, drawings, programs, to manufacture FAL receivers? That would be quite useful.
Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't want to duplicate a Coonan receiver anyway...

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Old November 11, 2019, 19:30   #19
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Coonass has jacked up folks for decades, years before his entry into FAL receivers

There are three, at least three generations of Coonan .357 pistols
The first gen guns were remarkable.
frames & slides from bar stock

The guns were farmed out, much of Coonan products always have been

on the .357 auto loaders they were totally subcontracted

Early guns were incredible
not sure when they did it but eventually Coonan went to investment castings
Third generation guns were a complete crap shoot
Problem was they changed enough of the design the 1st gen pistols were not really interchangeable with later generations.

so yeah major hand fitting

seem to recall they changed up the firing pin and extractor design in Gen Two
Gen Three guns have slightly different lock work and barrel to slide mating
look the same externally, different internally

I bought a mess of parts from subcontractors in the 90s for 1st Gen guns
one of their main contractors was in Souix City
1st time he went under he left them holding an empty bag. Finished frames, slides, barrels, etc heaped in a scrap dumpster.
Way I heard it, Dan was into the shop already for tens of thousands when they cut him off. Coonan folded into bankrupt...

smaller parts were built around the Twin Cities also contracted out
New in the box 1st Gen's still crop up in Minnesota
One character we knew ended up with a stack of NIB .357s when Danny folded. He had worked with no wages for some six or more months, one day the doors were locked. No one was told

On the FAL receivers, again they were not being manufactured by Coonan
hate to burst bubbleheads here but they were just slightly higher quality Hesse, one of Danny's bros
Okay, one outfit did the castings
Hesse did the machining
Coonan cleaned them up, marked and finished them

Yeah that's why there's no specific tooling or prints
Coonan FAL receivers were just a nicer Hesse product you meatheads, the operations were local to Minneapolis/St. Paul for the most part
Coonan never made one FAL receiver in house, they are just rebranded Hesse products

this is heavy duty here
DPMS shares contractors with JP Enterprises for example
both were somewhat in bed with Hesse as their subcontractor
Century demanded receivers dirty cheap, Hesse
made them and dirty cheap for Century Monkeys to build upon

it's just laughable this is not understood
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From what I understand they used the molds from Hesse and they did the machining
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