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Old November 27, 2019, 05:06   #1
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Anyone know about Ballard Hi Walls and Cody Wyoming?

Well,

My Father wants to buy an heirloom gun and has his sights set on a 45-70 Ballard Hi Wall made by Ballard Rifles in Cody Wyoming.

Anyone know what to look for as far as problems with these guns?

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Old November 27, 2019, 07:17   #2
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Hi Wall

Here's a great website to get answers on single shot rifles.

https://www.assra.com/cgi-bin/yabb/Y...ct=general_cat
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Old November 27, 2019, 17:38   #3
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Well,

My Father wants to buy an heirloom gun and has his sights set on a 45-70 Ballard Hi Wall made by Ballard Rifles in Cody Wyoming.

Anyone know what to look for as far as problems with these guns?

Thanks
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i know you want to know about those guns for family heirloom.

but has you or anyone discussed with your dad about just passing down his favorite or favorite(s) toys?

while a nice SS custom/semi custom gun would be nice, id rather have a gun my dad used, not a wall hanger. My dad was issued an M1 in the service, and id be really happy to have that, but that wont happen. So i have the next best thing, a CMP M1

but its how i look/see things.
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If he carries and handles it until the bluing at the balance point is thin, and it gets some marks on the stock where his overall snaps always rubbed, then I'd cherish such a rifle. Otherwise it's a stock certificate that takes up space among my shooting irons. My perspective.

Maybe see if he'll rob some banks with it? That'll make it a family reunion conversation piece for generations.
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Here's a great website to get answers on single shot rifles.

https://www.assra.com/cgi-bin/yabb/Y...ct=general_cat
Brother rifal, thanks for posting that website. I'm going to sign on as I have always lusted after high-walls since 2nd or 3rd grade when I could read my Dad's "American Rifleman". I only had one, a Browning B-78 in .30-06, sold it NIB in flawless condition, then was so butt-hurt for being so stupid that I bought another one, although the 2nd one is slightly used.

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FYIW. I liked the movie

https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/18...orn-rifle.html
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Old December 02, 2019, 22:27   #7
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Thorack,
I really like the old single shots but the price for an original or modern repro is just too much for me. If your dad can afford it then I hope he gets much enjoyment from it. You can also check out castboolits.com single shot forum and ask what they think. Some very knowledgeable guys there.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/foru...ngle-Shot-Guns

So to satisfy my vintage single shot itch I build my own from part guns I pick up cheap.

Here's a 45-70 falling block built on an old Hopkins and Allen frame using a cut down and buggerd Trapdoor barrel. All parts are from the 1800s.



It's shootable but not finished yet.
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Old December 02, 2019, 23:16   #8
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Okay this is all off the cuff so to speak friend:

Ballard bought out Meacham's tooling when he aged out
Meacham's rifles and parts were incredible, all milled from bar stock so far as I was told
He reversed engineered everything
Company started doing Stevens M44 center fire blocks and various M85 Winchester bits eventually evolving into full High Wall builds

Heard Sid was failing in health, family sold out to Ballard
can't tell you about them at all but have seen their Ballard pattern rifles which seem high quality, not seen a High Wall yet

Up here you can still find 1885 Winchesters in the grand range, even less if wildcatted up. Quite a number of .38-55s that I would buy with ratty bores and have rebored to .40 or .45 by Dick Nickle in Washington State and install Mecham bits in them like single set triggers, etc.

Aftermarket customs lose value hard generally versus something built off a vintage action

you can PM me, I may be able to provide some leads on original 1885s and get you in the door at less than sucker pricing up here

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Old December 03, 2019, 08:35   #9
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Single Shots

Here's another custom single shot rifle company if your interested in a Stevens 44 1/2. I own two "schuetzen rifles" built by them. Oustanding quality and customer service. You get what you pay for.

https://www.cparifles.com/
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