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Old January 15, 2020, 00:04   #1
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West Virginia making Virginians a 2A offer

https://youtu.be/xY7LjNZzDx4

Seems WV is offering a brexit type deal to any part of VA that wants to exit over the 2A issue.
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Old January 15, 2020, 01:03   #2
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Awesome!

Wonder what the VA Constitution says about counties leaving?
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Old January 15, 2020, 04:45   #3
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virginians have a choice--

either choose to be subjects to democommie rule,

or else choose to subject democommie lawlessness to rule of law.

act, or else be acted upon,

no one is coming to save anyone.
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Old January 15, 2020, 05:31   #4
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I have tried to find that bill on the West Virginia State House Website to no avail.

I'll wait and see if it is real or just BS.

If it is real then I stand with it.

The Balkanization of the USA will have begun . . .
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Old January 15, 2020, 06:19   #5
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The Balkanization of the USA will have begun . . .
And that is how it will be. Get ready folks, if you have not already done so.
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Old January 15, 2020, 06:55   #6
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I have tried to find that bill on the West Virginia State House Website to no avail.

I'll wait and see if it is real or just BS.

http://www.wvlegislature.gov/Bill_St...h&billtype=cr#

Resolution 8 Email
Legislative Session: 2020(RS)
LAST ACTION: H To House Government Organization 01/14/20
SUMMARY: Admitting certain counties and independent cities of the Commonwealth of Virginia to be admitted to the State of West Virginia as constituent counties
LEAD SPONSOR: Howell
SPONSORS: Summers, Shott, Householder, Hott, Martin, C., Graves, Cadle, Barnhart, Jeffries, J., Maynard, Phillips, Foster, Hamrick, Steele, Jeffries, D., Wilson, Waxman, Bartlett, Paynter, Linville
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Bill Definitions ? Introduced Version - html


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Description Date Journal Page
H To House Government Organization 01/14/20
H Introduced in House 01/14/20
H To Government Organization then Rules 01/14/20
H Filed for introduction 01/14/20

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Old January 15, 2020, 08:19   #7
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I approve of this crazy B.S.
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Old January 15, 2020, 09:22   #8
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There will be a significant regional IQ change,,, along with people needing dental care
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Old January 15, 2020, 09:39   #9
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Well, here's my response to that offer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrE...&frags=pl%2Cwn

West Virginia, Kentucky, Tenn. will do, or us Virginia Scotch/Irish Hillbillies can just start our own. Eight way.... I'M IN!
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Old January 15, 2020, 11:49   #10
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There will be a significant regional IQ change,,, along with people needing dental care
Us folk from the Appilachia (family farm was land grant 160 acre parcel pretty Revolutionary War) may not be as polished as a New York or Philadelphia lawyer but don't mistake wearing Carhart's and no college education for being dumb. From NE Georgia to the Virginias is probably to most dense population of people that could still hitch plows to mules and live a decent life if the grid and modern conveniences were to go away. Also probably the most heavily armed per capita group of people that know how to hunt and shoot left in U.S.

Without turning the military with drones, jets and full military force no law enforcement agency can stand up to the hillbillies I know stretched out from Amicalola falls headwaters of the Shenandoah river especially considering the number of hillbilly cops that won't go up against their own families but join them if it were pushed that far. I think it would be great for the majority of rural Virginia to switch to the West Virginia flag and leave that strip of urban college educated liberals that commute into Washington DC every day to work for their socialist masters to have the useless cluster of strip malls, chain food restaurants and homesee on 1/3 acre lots and condos to loose a couple House of Representatives seats.

Living in Georgia gives someone informed a different perspective on life compared to many other areas. We have a "stand our ground" law that says we don't have to back down from a fight as well as one the few states it's still legal to kill a cop in self defense. In most states if your sitting on the front porch with your family on a nice spring day and some cop who has lost his mind shoots your wife and kids for no reason and you react by killing him before kills you or entire family it's a felony even in self defense as cops have special laws to protect them like an endangered species. Murder is murder whether a civilian or LEO. I don't see where a copsmall life is worth more than the local pastors life when a judge delivers his sentence.

All Americans should have the same net worth when their killer is sentenced in court no matter if homeless person living under a bridge, working man, wife, kid, politician, cop, etc. I believe in capital punishment and am tired of living in a county where average time served for murder is seven to nine years with a plea bargain unless it's a cop and you see the electric chair or lethal imjection. All lifew is worth the same and murder of a cop should get just punishment but so should that of a civilian. Special laws to make killing cops worse than killing housewives is prejudiced.

A big wad of liberals living on the edge of state line because they work in D.C. should not be able to dictate the laws for the majority of the state's land mass which is rurual. Those areas should be able to join West Virginia if want. I know from living in a rural area that had a sheriff and one deputy just like Mayberry versus a county with over 200 employees and around the same number of municipal cops. Call 911 at work or home and cops are here in ten to twenty minutes on average from my experience. On the farm when we called often the will not show up till the next day unless someone was killed already.

City people don't understand that extra half hour to over an hour or more lag time before a 911 call is a answered thus people need to be able to defend their families and selves much more proactively in rural areas with very small sheriff's departments. Even now that the county my farm is in has a bigger force if the bulk of deputies are answering a violent domestic dispute on north end of county it could be a couple hours or more before they can turn resources loose to send to the west side and lucky sometimes if response time is three hours.

I had an issue a few years ago in a city with over 100 officers where called 911 three times and told every time it was Friday night, having higher than normal calls and would have to wait my turn even with a neighbors kid having a drunken party which culminated in two of the kids pointing guns at me and telling me my cutting grass was disturbing their pool party and to stop. Even reporting threatened with multiple firearms till forth call and told dispatch had donned body armor, had a MBR in hand and was going back to cutting grass and if saw another gun was going to put the kids down did cops finally show up. There are a lot of counties on fringes of Georgia, Temnesse, North Carolina and South Carolina I know of would be better served if annexed into their neighboring state due to a large town just a couple miles across the state line. Sometimes common sense should allow such counties to be annexed into their neighboring state with resources to better serve their community.
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Old January 15, 2020, 18:27   #12
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This is going to play out in a very interesting way, possibly with violence and for sure multiple court cases that will roll all the way up The Hill to the Supreme Court to sort out. Thankfully we have two more conservative judges on the bench of the highest court due to President Trump. In fact he has rolled in hard appointing more Federal Judges than almost any president because their were so many vacancies and Obama was too busy playing golf to do any work leaving all those unfilled seats for Hillary to fill but it backfired on the Democrats and is really one of the biggest news stories not spoken of much. Trump is going to change the face of our Federal Judicial Branch for at least twenty to thirty years before the liberals can recover all the judicial appointments they lost due to Obamas apathy and ignorance.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...federal-judges

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...ution-written/

Nice to know in believing their own polls, almost 100% confidence that Hillary as going to win in a landslide Obama did nothing but play golf and book speaking engagements for when Hillary took his chair. Imagine if she had the chance o appoint all these judges.
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At the start of the War Between the States, ‘West’ Virginia was allowed to secede from Virginia .... but the Confederacy was not allowed to secede from the US. Now Virginia controlled by DC commuters wants to join up with West Virginia. Tell me how long this enforced ‘one nation indivisible’ is going to last.
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At the start of the War Between the States, ‘West’ Virginia was allowed to secede from Virginia .... but the Confederacy was not allowed to secede from the US. Now Virginia controlled by DC commuters wants to join up with West Virginia. Tell me how long this enforced ‘one nation indivisible’ is going to last.
1861?
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Old January 16, 2020, 09:41   #15
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Union County Georgia has that name because they refused to secede from the Union thus there was one county in Georgia that remained Yankee territory but the post war carpet baggers didn't show them an inch of mercy for their loyalty to the Union and the Yankee Army and post war folk punishing the south gave them the same dose of pain as rest of the south. Proves it's better to go ahead and be part of the mob if caught in the middle and fight to win.
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Old January 16, 2020, 14:09   #16
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Murder is murder whether a civilian or LEO.

All lifew is worth the same and murder of a cop should get just punishment but so should that of a civilian.
Now Brother hueyville, you know I love you and I seek your advice and pick your brain for tons of knowledge quite often. Once I get my Harley I'm coming to visit you and I promise I wont' disclose that you are actually a "committee", similar to Ragnar Benson, if you have any of his books, and All FALaholics should have EVERY book Ragnar ever wrote. However, Facts is Facts.

Please make a note that the Po-leece IS and ARE, in this country, at all levels: federal, state and local -> CIVILIANS. It is the marxist media that puts out that shit that the po-po are NOT civilians.

It is in this country, always has been and Lord willing will be forever, civilians and MILITARY, but NEVER civilians and the police. COPS ARE CIVILIANS. They ain't Soldiers, they ain't Sailors, they ain't Marines, they ain't Airmen; they ARE CIVILIANS. Some of them may THINK they are other than civilians, but that is all they are. They are armed civilians with, as I refer to sometimes, " the Power of The Crown", but they are still civilians.

As usual, I agree with what you post, but not for this. This is a big pet peeve of mine and every FALaholic ought not say this kind of erroneous misinformation perpetuated by the masters of confusion; the marxist media.

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Now Brother hueyville, you know I love you and I seek your advice and pick your brain for tons of knowledge quite often. Once I get my Harley I'm coming to visit you and I promise I wont' disclose that you are actually a "committee", similar to Ragnar Benson, if you have any of his books, and All FALaholics should have EVERY book Ragnar ever wrote. However, Facts is Facts.

Please make a note that the Po-leece IS and ARE, in this country, at all levels: federal, state and local -> CIVILIANS. It is the marxist media that puts out that shit that the po-po are NOT civilians.

It is in this country, always has been and Lord willing will be forever, civilians and MILITARY, but NEVER civilians and the police. COPS ARE CIVILIANS. They ain't Soldiers, they ain't Sailors, they ain't Marines, they ain't Airmen; they ARE CIVILIANS. Some of them may THINK they are other than civilians, but that is all they are. They are armed civilians with, as I refer to sometimes, " the Power of The Crown", but they are still civilians.

As usual, I agree with what you post, but not for this. This is a big pet peeve of mine and every FALaholic ought not say this kind of erroneous misinformation perpetuated by the masters of confusion; the marxist media.

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Benson was "okay" for the greater part though some of his titles verged on utter fantasy island crap

Pretty sure what Huey was driving at was this notion that started in the 70s that LE were protected peoples. Seemed to really blow up under Reagan
For example my pops was a Fed and targeting him was a Federal crime
but it wasn't just me, the law covered his family as well

Goes much further...
For example as retired Federal LE he is allowed under law to CCW in all 50 States without permit, yes even in New York City.
That's been Federal law since the early 80s

while all this is cool for Dad he has always seen it as rotten to the core as all Citizens should have the same rights & protections which is how I was indeed raised.
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Old January 17, 2020, 18:22   #18
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now if we could just get NJ to take filthadelphia and ohio to take pittsburg, the rest of pennsylvania could be a great state.
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