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Old December 08, 2019, 15:48   #1
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1888 sporter build questions

some years ago i bought an 1890 produced '88 action with 1905 modifications and a 20" sporter weight tapered barrel in 8X57. separately i found a haenel double set trigger housing (lower metal). looking thru the stocks on hand i found something close enuf to use, with cutting and resin glassing.

last night i inletted the upper into a fajen stock 98% inletted for a remington 720, and on preparing to inlet the lower noted that bolt centers are different, so i suppose the lower is actually for another, similar rifle. i was able to order an '88 lower and an '88/14 lower thru e-bay very cheaply.

any comments on the advantage of one over another lower?

in the end i will have an antique that looks modern, and is better than a pile of mismatched parts.
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Old December 08, 2019, 22:19   #2
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There were many fine European sporters on the gew88 action before WW1.Anyhow the issue gew88 barrel is lightweight and smooth taper. Has anyone removed the threads on the front ring of the receiver that once held the barrel jacket ?. A lot of sporterized former military 88's had these threads either machined off or a ring made that screwed on them to hide them.
If your 88 receiver has the 1905 mods it will have had charger guides installed on the receiver bridge and the magazine and bottom of receiver modified to a quasi mauser type. I'm pretty shure a mannlicher magazine triggerguard assembly will no longer work with an '05 modified gew88.
You mention 88/14. That variant is also a quasi mauser modified magazine/guard assy , but the charger guides on the receiver are not plates riveted or spot welded to receiver , but actually welded on lump of metal then formed to hold mauser chargers. This variant is quite scarce as it's a very ersatz conversion done on a very small scale.
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Old December 09, 2019, 15:31   #3
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i believe the 88/14 lower will work with the 88/05 upper and result in a fixed single stack 5 round capacity using single loading or mauser strippers, rather than the old packet clip from the 88 design, which i have used in another rifle. either way, i'll make it work. it's just a rifle.
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The next time I hear "THE RANGE IS NOW HOT", it just wont be the same.

Max tried another question. "What sort of people live about here?"
"In THAT direction," the Jin said, waving its right paw round, "lives a Han: And in THAT direction," waving the other paw, "lives a Ming Hare. Visit either you like: they're both mad."
"But I don't want to go among mad people," Max remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Jin: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Max.
"You must be," said the Jin, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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Old December 09, 2019, 20:57   #4
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Something else I should throw out into the matrix is there are 88' actions that were made into sporting rifles and then there were guild made actions that while they may appear similar are unique

Some are longer, some shorter in length
various bolt diameters
you will see this with high end 71' sporting rifles as well

While the English usually built on raw factory built actions that gun makers altered to a sporting pattern...examples: Martini and Lee's
Germanic gun builders often made their own versions of Mauser 71' and 88' actions, even Styer 95' straight pulls

As such Sporting rifle parts may or not be interchangeable between early Mauser sporting rifles before the era of the 98'

Same boggle exists with Scandanavian rolling block sporting rifles
Most were built on raw actions produced by arsenals
Some though were built by established gunmakers such as Hagen in Christiana {Oslo} in Norway & again are unique and not interchangeable by nature Shooter

probably what you are currently dealing with
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Old December 09, 2019, 21:05   #5
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this is an 1890 spandau action. i have a 71 sporting rifle chambered for the M70 vetterli cartridge, done up in an 1880's austrian 200 meter offhand style, and am aware that these actions were made in various lengths.
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The next time I hear "THE RANGE IS NOW HOT", it just wont be the same.

Max tried another question. "What sort of people live about here?"
"In THAT direction," the Jin said, waving its right paw round, "lives a Han: And in THAT direction," waving the other paw, "lives a Ming Hare. Visit either you like: they're both mad."
"But I don't want to go among mad people," Max remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Jin: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Max.
"You must be," said the Jin, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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Old December 09, 2019, 22:39   #6
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this is an 1890 spandau action. i have a 71 sporting rifle chambered for the M70 vetterli cartridge, done up in an 1880's austrian 200 meter offhand style, and am aware that these actions were made in various lengths.
Okay cool Shooter

I started jacking with this crap in the 70s, drove me nuts on 71' sporting guns I was repairing. The military spares were not even close, could not even be fitted. Ran into it on 88's as well
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Old December 25, 2019, 08:35   #7
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I have one in 7x57 caliber that appears to have started life as a military carbine but was converted to a sporter type before it left the factory. I think they were part of a large order by some south American country that cancelled and the armory, Haenel, redid the stocks and sold them as sporters. Neat little carbine but I have trouble with seeing the sights well enough to consider it for hunting.
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