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Old May 11, 2018, 22:47   #701
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Old May 12, 2018, 13:40   #702
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The US is like a giant with a glass jaw, one hit in the right place and we are done. It is ironic, with all that has been spent on the military and weapons, one backwater nation can take us out with 1 relatively small EMP nuke. In any nuke attack the US would have to destroy every single incoming warhead, we would have to be right 100% of the time, an enemy needs only 1 to get through, they need to be right only 1% of the time.

The odds are not in our favor.
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Old May 12, 2018, 20:05   #703
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That is the issue. China and Russia have invested in fewer but new technology to evade interception. Russia especially has let the old systems rot (as Huey pointed out) and focused on new warheads so each missile carries multiple warheads which can detect interceptors and move to avoid interception and deploy decoys. The hypersonics are also interesting because they can take out critical infrastucture without nukes. Where the hypersonics are deployed is very interesting. You saw the TU-95 interception yesterday. What if ......
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Old May 12, 2018, 23:34   #704
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C2, are you referring to the hypersonics taking out the grid with non-nuke EMPs?
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Old May 13, 2018, 09:30   #705
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The US is like a giant with a glass jaw, one hit in the right place and we are done. It is ironic, with all that has been spent on the military and weapons, one backwater nation can take us out with 1 relatively small EMP nuke. In any nuke attack the US would have to destroy every single incoming warhead, we would have to be right 100% of the time, an enemy needs only 1 to get through, they need to be right only 1% of the time.

The odds are not in our favor.
Or just the sun being hyperactive on a day when the earth's magnetic poles are in a weak state and majority of planet facing the sun if not entire planet goes down to no malicious intent but mother nature. Glad we are finally moving some of our major distribution transformer manufacturing back U.S. soil. Post grid melt we won't be waiting for China to feel like shipping transformers if they rebuild anytime soon.

Have always had a healthy respect for mother earth and our own corner of the galaxy. Look at Hawaii right now... I see California earthquakes (not to mention politics) have taken shelter in steam vents all over the Cascades so know Washington State and Oregon could bust open anytime, been all over Yellowstone in summer and winter and on both sides and something about acid boiling out of the ground just isn't right, Bismark in January and know that will suck without power as not many trees to burn when -40 with 40 MPH winds, northeast bleeding heart liberals, noreasters, costal hurricanes and more so feel our biggest threats are nature and ourselves. Why I have prepped for as many things as I can without dot gov resources or Bill Gates cash. Choose to live in a geological stable area away from the coast and conservative politics with Bible believing population. Also keep a keen eye on items inside a short drive from house already on trailers or that will slide on mine in first hours of an event.
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Old May 13, 2018, 10:38   #706
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and other key items.
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Old May 13, 2018, 10:44   #707
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A bit dated but the seismic velocities are increasing. The line runs up the Hudson and out along long island sound toward Boston. Boston has one about ever 200 years. Come to think about it, all the places that have these types of events tend to have progressive liberals living there.
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Old May 13, 2018, 10:49   #708
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Old May 13, 2018, 14:41   #709
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Here are part of the EMP commission reports. There are 7 volumes that are being held back from public release.

http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2...ission-7MB.pdf
www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a484672.pdf
https://michaelmabee.info/three-new-...orts-released/
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"Come to think about it, all the places that have these types of events tend to have progressive liberals living there."

Well, I guess it really is all their fault then, isn't it?
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From up north.
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Old May 24, 2018, 12:32   #712
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Back from whacky land. Got to chat with Peter. Certain things better but a lot of resistance. Interesting discussion with Japanese military folks on Chna.
I think what I find most amazing is how the leftists are so against this country and how we as a nation put up with it. They are really nuts and are very willing to die for the cause as long as it takes us out.
Just an example of the logic and "expertise".
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Old June 05, 2018, 11:28   #713
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Working to get another document here from the task force on Russian capabilities but this document this was referenced in it.
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Old June 11, 2018, 12:22   #714
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This horror story doesn’t need zombies or genetically altered mosquitos in order to be scary. Using data from the United States Department of Energy, the International Business Times reported in 2014 that the United States suffers more blackouts than any other developed country in the world.
Unfortunately, not much has been done since then to alleviate the system’s critical vulnerabilities.
In theory, we all understand the wisdom about not putting all our eggs in one basket, as the old-adage goes. Yet the U.S. has done just that with our U.S. power grid. Sadly, this infrastructure is failing, and compared to many other countries, the U.S. is sauntering slowly behind many other more conscientious countries, seemingly unconcerned with its poor showing.
The Grid, by Geography and Geopolitics
According to the United States Department of Energy, the American power grid is made up of three smaller grids, known as interconnections, which transport energy all over the country. The Eastern Interconnection provides electricity to states to the east of the Rocky Mountains, while the Western interconnection serves the Rocky Mountain states and those that border the Pacific Ocean.
The Texas Interconnected System is the smallest grid in the nation, and serves most of Texas, although small portions of the Lone Star state benefit from the other two grids.
And if you’re wondering why Texas gets a grid of its own, according to the Texas Tribune they have their own grid “to avoid dealing with the feds.” Now that’s true survivalist savvy—in theory.

When you look at the layout of the grid above, it’s easy to see that a single grid going offline would disrupt a huge segment of North America.
Wait—make that all of North America.
To give it to you straight, our national electrical grid works as an interdependent network. This means that the failure of any one part would trigger the borrowing of energy from other areas. Whichever grid attempts to carry the extra load would likely be overtaxed, as the grid is already taxed to near max levels during peak hot or cold seasons.
The aftermath of a single grid going down could leave millions of residents without power for days, weeks or longer depending on the scope of the failure.
So although on the surface it looks like the U.S. has wisely put its eggs into three separate baskets for safer keeping, the U.S. has in essence, lined up our baskets so that if one were to drop, or if the bottom were to fall out, the eggs from basket #1 would fall into basket #2. Which would break from the load, falling into basket #3—eventually scrambling all the eggs. Sorry, Texas.
When multiple parts of the grid fail at the same time, it’s not necessarily more catastrophic—the catastrophe just happens more quickly.
According to Jon Wellinghoff, chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, in an interview with USA Today, “You have a very vulnerable system that will continue to be vulnerable until we figure out a way to break it out into more distributed systems.”
Written by Julianne Geiger a couple of years ago. This is why you don't need a huge EMP pulse to cascade the system ( or cyber or a ground attack at key locations ie:San Jose)
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Old June 11, 2018, 13:09   #715
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A good friend of mine is in the power business. For the last decade he has been pushing for micro grids. They are doing some projects right now in Alaska. From solar/micro turbines to software to manage it.
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I've got part of another. Once I get in the right format I'll post.
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Old June 13, 2018, 07:49   #717
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There’s a layer of 300 million-year-old rock under Interstate 95 that’s capable of killing the lights from Washington to Boston and beyond the next time the sun erupts in all its fury.
Sound far-fetched? Perhaps. But not to scientists. A solar storm is now viewed as enough of a risk in fact that grid operators across North America are working on plans to respond to just such a disturbance. And a draft of a soon-to-be-published U.S. Geological Survey report pinpoints the Eastern Seaboard as one of the areas most in danger.
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That’s because this Paleozoic-era rock doesn’t let the energy from a major geomagnetic storm -- a once-in-a-100-years kind of event -- pass through it but instead acts as a backstop that sends the surge back up above the ground for a second shot at causing mayhem.
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Old June 21, 2018, 17:23   #718
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Old June 22, 2018, 18:38   #719
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I think I'll drop this here as this is a much trafficked thread.

A fairly interesting 12 minutes.
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Old June 24, 2018, 17:45   #721
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possibly 45 YH, yes very surprised too.
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90 men, working together, with a simple plan, can shut down the whole of the USA inside 5 to 10 days.

Am surprised every single day it has not been done yet.
Of the nations which have the capability right now to disable our grid remotely, I do not think any of them have a business case to do so. And they have not offered to rent those services to the nations who think they have a moral and religious duty to do so.
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We are dancing on the head of a pin. Sooner or later it will unwind. Of the folks I talk too, they believe AI maybe the way out of the immediate problem because AI can operate in solving multi-dimensional issues. I am aware of one problem that had been worked on for 3 years by PhDs and two guys with basic BS degrees used an AI program and solved the problem in 2 weeks. Like EMP, will we act upon the solutions and will the cure be worse than the disease.
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There are other choke points also. Physical and electronic. That is why if push comes to shove, a war will not have to be firearms. What she discusses is true. As systems grow in complexity they become more vulnerable and a cascade can be induced easily. The San Jose attack is a prime example of a test run. As has been said it is amazing it hasn't happened yet.
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The longer we go with more and more advanced technology, more nodes, more connections, more complex interconnectedness, the more minor of an event it will take to tip the system into cascading failure.

Plan accordingly. Live simply.
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Old June 25, 2018, 00:13   #727
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90 men, working together, with a simple plan, can shut down the whole of the USA inside 5 to 10 days.

Am surprised every single day it has not been done yet.
Yes, the deal is NO ONe wants to come off as crazy/premature/jumping the gun, etc. I Think. OR there are not enough Men who ARE willing to walk away from all they have earned in life? Ready to give their Life?

No one wants civil War But I Believe it is coming and not that far away, Gun CONTROL Crap will start it is My hit .
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Last piece on Poseidon.
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More task force releases.
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For those in the Huntsville area, this is coming up. You can chat with Peter and folks and get some first hand info as to what is going on.
http://powergriddefense.org/PGDCcon2...Ccon2018.shtml
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Let me try that link again:
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The Russians and everyone else must shake their heads in disbelief.
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Georgia Power is now leasing whole house surge protectors for $9.95 per month. Installs at your meter and includes $5,000 or $50,000 of equipment insurance with no deductible and fairly sure it's $5,000 from memory. It covers most damage one would have without filing an insurance claim and if exceeded $5,000 your homeowners deductible is covered plus some of the damage. We are on the waiting list.

Don't know if it's related but three crews came by house in stages this week and excavated the first four feet of power pole ground rod and connection then added a second rod. They inspected the pole, sprayed with some chemical and wrapped the four feet they excavated with some type of rubber membrane and backfilled. Third crew installed devices power worker could insert steps that would get him to the steps that start at about twelve feet if didn't have a ladder, inspected all the steel rungs replacing two. Final crew checked transformer, fuses and top pole along with insulators.

This is second time have seen them do this at house since owned and seen them do same at work at least four times. They drive new inspection tags and move on. Hope to have our new whole house surge protector and tech rep had to consult with engineer to determine if their whole house surge protection and my whole house system installed at breaker panel would create some sort of unbalanced situation. They took model number of my surge protector and called me back three days later saying would not be a problem just give me an extra layer of defence from a power impulse. Mentioned to rep had a halo ground system with over a dozen ground rods with phone, cable and all systems feeding into house attached along with their own surge protectors and said engineer wanted to know if I was an EE. They are not offering for commercial three phase customers yet.
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All the utilities on a pole are all supposed to be bonded and grounded at each pole.

Each utility is supposed to be grounded and bonded to your ground rod at your service entrance or in older homes and communities metal water pipes.

Trailers and mobile homes are supposed to additionally have the frame bonded to ground.

What really gets interesting is all the damn thieves that like to steal the copper ground wires that go down each pole and coiled at the bottom to increase surface area, which then only leaves down guys at certain places serving as the ground mainly where the line changes direction or needs additional anchoring where it crosses a road or something, which in fairness does have a separate path to ground on each one and will handle a lot more current than ground wires will.

Yeah, after spending most of my adult life as a broadband lineman has taught me a thing or two.
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Back from that place. All I can say from the senior folks solutions, we are absolutely on our own. What was recommended was so STUPID, that if it wasn't so serious, it would be part of a stooges TV program. It was like listening to valley girls. "Like, like we can just get stuff from the next town. You mean, like they won't share and they don't have water or food either. Bummer!" As Charlie Brown would say: Aghhhhhhh!
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I think both are going to come into play. This is for the marbles so they are using the useful idiots from within. This has been a long time in coming and it plays well as part of a complete disassembly of our role in the world. Both Russia and China have issues and they need to bring us down a few notches to level the playing field.
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YH, you do remember the incident where we all found out that the air force was paying $900 for toilet seats? I would bet that the Russians ain't being scammed like that. Heads would roll. Literally. This is my take on why they can spend 12 cents to our dollar on their military.
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I can't disagree with anything you've said. I guess it's like the newest electronic thingamajigs cost $500. Two years later, $30 at Wal-mart.
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A very good friend of mine passed away two weeks ago, yesterday. Worked on the above. More there than meets the eye.
Primer on the issue for those that care to go there:
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Anyone got the number for the space station?????

Have a hand held ham radio and the right antenna??


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General Chuck Yeager once said something that stuck with me all these many years later.

He was being asked, for the hundredth time, does he believe in UFO's and had he ever seen an UFO, with him flying his whole life in high performance military aircraft, combat, etc.

Yeager smiled and said, Whenever one of them UFO's lands anywhere out in the public view, ya'll look back toward the rear of the thing and you will see an AF number stenciled on it and I assure you, those two young LT's flying the damn thing will be in for one hell of a dressing down by their Wing commander.

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We have a small, maybe small, fleet of space aircraft, that get sent up, and stay up for years, then lands, gets refueled, cleaned up, sent back up for another year or more.

What type engines do those things have in them?
What type propulsion and fuel allows that shit to take place, when everything else being sent up, runs out of gas it seems overnight??

Rule of thumb, if the AF allows their stuff to be seen, discussed, its already been replaced by something even better.

My guess, those little ships, can knock down ALL nukes being fired at us, reason we are willing to reduce our nuke stockpiles.

Nuclear tipped missiles has been the number one threat to the USA for decades, so it makes sense, to make something to render that threat useless.

The USA has not been attacked because Russia and China can't pull it off, which means we have the means to defeat all of their stuff.

This country can and does keep its secrets secret!
When it wants too.
I don't think we would have abandoned and then donated the space shuttles to museums if not for replacement fleet already in service. We still have WW2 war ships mothballed in case we need to double the size of the Navy overnight. Still have WW2 rifles in storage as well. If didn't have a replacement the shuttles they would all be in storage with techs upgrading systems and keeping them maintained in event the Chinese stop letting our astronauts from hitchhiking on their rockets. Doubt we are not going to keep a way to maintain our critical satellites if need.

Virgin will soon be selling tickets to space, think we are not already ruling space travel and keeping it quiet? NASA was been so close even 20 years ago I belive they have a horizontal traditional takeoff vehicle that refuels at highest altitude possible and then slides into orbit. Why brag it up as keeping the enemy guessing is better. Bet they know we have such vehicles but unsure their true capability.
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Old August 20, 2018, 14:05   #742
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As to propulsion, we have reliable ram jet aircraft dropped from wings of larger craft that are blindingly fast. Have published testing for scram jets hitting mach 9.6 so we are likely we'll past mach 10. For decades we have used ion generators to push satellites around and drive deep space probes at low speeds. The new X3 ion engine has been tested multiple times as they work toward a manned mission to Mars and is capable of 1,491.3 mph using only 260 amps of electricity and standard xenon gas as used by most current space probes. They are working on a magnetic shielding for the new ion engine that should allow it to have a hundred thousand hour service life.

If kids at Michigan State have this engine working imagine what the guys working for DARPA, Lockheed Skunk works and others already have in service? I believe these cutting edge university research studies are nothing but disinformation programs that in the process weed out the really smart and trustworthy students that will get a job in which thier families believe they just design parts for planes and nothing really special. If our space fleet isn't taking off from runways at Area 51 or other top secret areas their launch vehicles are then dropping them from their wings and use a ram jet or scram jet till leave orbit and there the Ion engine picks up and can give them easily months on station doing anything from satellite repair, surveillance and patrols to be on station in event of an ICBM launch.
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I thought about putting a question here but I don't want a black van showing up. No I don't deal with Sn or Al hats.
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Its not just the grid I'm concerned about, far simpler than that.

Everything we have in this country moves by truck at some point, this country is VAST in size, impossible to guard our roads.

Shut down the trucking industry, even just slow down the movement of all goods, people will begin to die in short order, but the resulting panic is what does the real damage.

90 men, 90 targets, drivers, in 90 different locations, at the exact same minute of a chosen day, the trucking industry of this whole country shuts down before midnight hits.

Figure five to 7 days, to organize armed convoys, store shelves will be empty, people will be hungry, power plants out of whatever they need to run, electrical grid shutdowns, computers not fixed when broken, fuel shortages, or simply no fuel, people are not eating, water plants fail, no chemicals, no electricity, people can't get to work, where they work can't move their products, commerce comes to a stand still.

Once panic sets in, all of the old hatreds boil over, people begin shooting at one another, hospitals become war zones, police can't handle issues on a good day, with a small problem, with everyplace in the toilet, they go home to protect their own families, things then escalate out of all control.

Why 90 drivers in 90 different locations, psychological warfare.
We get one terror attack, all resources are rushed into that one area, with 90 connected attacks, which will shut down the whole transportation system, as in, mama won't let her husband go drive them trucks, if he's going to get shot, the system stops working.

I'd expect the military to be called in, but hell, there are not enough trained truck drivers, and even if impressed into duty, would take a week or 10 days to ramp up the system, and by then, all hell has already broke out everywhere in this country.

300,000,000 plus Americans, 5,000,000 GI's, another 300,000 police, no one can control 300,000,000 hungry, scared, thirsty, panicked people, no one!

Three days of food in peoples home, on average, maybe one day of water, just in time stocking of stores, as in, no truck tonight at Safeway, no food tomorrow, panic takes over, store runs, police can't cope, banks shutdown, people stop going to work, just pure panic of the masses takes over and it all comes troubling down.

Wait 24 hours, use those 90 men to shoot up everything not protected in the power grid, which is a ton of stuff.

Just ask yourself, if say 90 men, targeted 90 different locations, things, places, peoples, connected to transportation, electrical grid, movement of peoples, what would happen?????

Add in, how people react to stress, how they panic, hell, hit the communication systems, watch what happens when the "news" is only being put out by the feds, the nutters would use that action to become even more major nutters and we have more than our fair share of them folks.

Martial law would have to be declared, and that right there would increase the panic in the streets, set off tons of, don't thread on me folks, which would call for an even stronger response, which would piss off even more people on the fringes.

Our country, this mostly peaceful, working high status national community, fully functional today, can be all gone within 24 hours.

We are now and have always been only 9 meals away from anarchy.

As an old survivalist, I asked myself one day, how would I shut down this country?

The answer was, 90 men, in 90 different locations.
Pretty simple actually.
With an interdependent country such as we have today.
Knock out one leg, whole thing falls apart from its own weight.
Nearly overnight and not a damn thing can be done once it slips into chaos.

That scenario has happened where I live before. It's called a hurricane. And we're still here.
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All the utilities on a pole are all supposed to be bonded and grounded at each pole.

Each utility is supposed to be grounded and bonded to your ground rod at your service entrance or in older homes and communities metal water pipes.

Trailers and mobile homes are supposed to additionally have the frame bonded to ground.

What really gets interesting is all the damn thieves that like to steal the copper ground wires that go down each pole and coiled at the bottom to increase surface area, which then only leaves down guys at certain places serving as the ground mainly where the line changes direction or needs additional anchoring where it crosses a road or something, which in fairness does have a separate path to ground on each one and will handle a lot more current than ground wires will.

Yeah, after spending most of my adult life as a broadband lineman has taught me a thing or two.
They came and inspected power pole at my house for rot, ground rod corrosion, ground rod bonding all the way from transformers to ground plus excavated three feet below ground level, coated pole with a rot preventative and then wrapped it with a rubber type membrane before filling hole back up, packing soil and driving an inspection tag. Looked at all the tags, looks like Georgia Power inspects their poles every five years. Looked at the two at work, main pole with transformers and pole between it an building were inspected four years ago.

Do a lot of work at a mountaintop antenna site. Has eight foot chain link fence with razor wire and gate has two grade 80 transfer chains each with a five pin security padlock. That said they laid a copper ground mat that was tired to ground rods all around the perimeter and three or four rods at every tower plus rods at each corner of every building then poured six inches of gravel on top.

Group of men with several four wheelers and trucks went up the rough road, cut chains then attached the four wheelers all along one edge of the ground mat with chains or cables and started yanking. Ended up getting mat to moving and pulled a 100'×150' copper weave mat up, severeal ground rods came up with it then they started trying to pull each rod left out. Got most but some at tower base had a 4" slab of concrete apron poured from tower footing so could not pull those. From each rod to tower base was about 24" of #2 grounding copper. They snipped each one and put all the police, sheriff, fire, ham radio repeaters, hospital comms and cell towers floating ungrounded. Had over 1,000 pounds of copper already and risked the entire system to get about five more pounds clipping those last few small pieces that at least gave the equipment some protection.

Tower company sent a crew back who scraped all the gravel down to soil, put down a new copper ground mat so had good ground plane for towers to get good coverage, replaced all missing rods and jumpers, poured a foot of gravel on top and inside of 90 days could tell they had done it again as my vhf, uhf and public service radio all lost a solid 20 miles of range due to loss of ground plane. Asked repeater owners if we could put a few cameras on the towers with a radio broadcasting SSTV back to us hams who would monitor and record so could get video of the perps. Offered as free service but they said if we wanted another radio on the site would have to pay for the tower and rack space.

Guy crawled down in manhole to steal copper, cut and removed over 500 feet of fiber which he found out had zero value at scrap yard but they all had been alrted to be on lookout for someone trying to sell Ma Bell fiber. Workers kept him distracted saying would get him weighed and a ticket soon as finished what they were working on while owner called cops. He did two weeks in jail and some probation but cost Ma Bell six figures and took half a counties internet down for almost two days.

In southern Cali telecom workers strike had gone on for some time and we're tired of strike pay so one decided to speed the process up. Went into three manhole covers and snipped fiber bundles which took down the land lines, cell phones, internet and all public service digital trunking systems and 911. Hospitals, cops on patrol, fire department, everyone lost comms. Even shut down all the gas pumps and cash registers for retail stores as most link back to home office servers and without internet gas pumps and cash registers lock up, credit cards don't work, etc. The few mom and pops along with people who had cash (banks and ATM's were down) were only people that could trade goods for almost three days.

I know one place where I can take my entire city down and keep it down for several days. If also attack the fiber bundle going to Athens, Cumming and Atlanta (be fairly easy, take a few hours and nobody would really notice more than a man working on side of road) it may take a week to get partial comms back to our entire county and big chunks of surrounding counties.

Have hundreds of stories where contractor took a town down accidentally or scrap metal theif. Give me a dozen men each with a half dozen four to five foot pieces of chain could pick the dozen biggest substations surrounding Atlanta or most major cities and throw the chains over fences into the wires that are not supposed to touch each other to create dead shorts and as each station pops it's fuses will unbalance the load causing substations upstream and down to pop as well. The result would be that majority if not all of Atlanta would loose power for days while they got the parts shipped in to repair all the blown substations.

Back during Reagans term Ma Bell uploaded a firmware push into the long distance system where one line had one character of code mistyped. Took down entire U.S. long distance phone system for 8.5 minutes. White House, Pentagon, Norad, nobody could make a long distance call. We have 51 long distance switches in the U.S. Would guess a group of three dedicated men for each, 154 people could easily over run each switch killing workers, leave a device then run and result would be no long distance phones for months. Add in some attacks on larger area codes in major cities and U.S. cell and landlines comms go down. Have played out dozens of easy scenarios.

After Katrina Corp of Engineers raised all the levies around New Orleans taller so will hold more water. One area that wasn't under water was Bourbon St. Wait for a significant rain event then a few groups of three men go hijack some barges whose men are on shore leave with just one man watching the wheel house. Kill or toss him off, run four to six barges into key levies or locks around the city and it once water begins moving it will cut the levies in half which will fill the city up like a bathtub in hours with no warning or escape. Believe the water level can go high enough now to flood Burbon St and more of the city than after Katrina with the increased capacity.

Whether one motivated person, 20 or God forbid 200 with a real plan and the entire country is whacked. I know lots of truck drivers that would grab their guns and keep tucking if the price per mile was right even if 100 were shot at random.
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That scenario has happened where I live before. It's called a hurricane. And we're still here.
A hurricane is not what he described - in any way, shape, or form.

Unknown people hunting and murdering random members of the food fulfillment system is not a storm. And the reactions to said event aren't even *close* to the same.

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Rather than nuke plants would do natural gas fired right at the well head. Much lower tech, easier to spool up and get runnimg. Would say an gas fired emergency power plant could be up and running in hours but a nuke plant would take days or weeks to get fuel rods in reactor and fired up. But the grid is the real weak poimt, I would attack the grid,not the plants but as load unbalance as sub stations pop it's also going to run back to many plants and smoke the generator turbines if operators can't shit them down quick enough. 100 Muslims or skinheads with five foot pieces of chain could wreck most of the system if they hit right substations and the cascading failures ran up and down stream fast enough.

As to trucking, dot mil and commercial air could move a lot of drugs and food. Just stop shipping televisions, I Phones and any non life essential products then just truck them short run to and from airports. Have actually seen plans similar to these. Takes three days to set in motion and two weeks to have working so reason wife and I keep two to four years of everything plus enough ammo to build a 30 foot wall of dead bodies outside the fence line. A lot of the morons dying would make the country better as we need a good gene pool clensing.
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My favorite truck broke down on me Saturday. Had the wrecker take it to work and wife come get me and the guns after cleaned out all tools. Had no 5 volt control voltage at throttle position sensor, cam sensor or any device that uses five volt control to talk to the ECM aka computer. My high dollar scanner that does engine codes, transmission, brakes and chassis codes just said "could not connect to computer" then if tried to come in the back door said "no trouble codes available".

Tested every fuse and relay under the dash and in the engine bay. Still no joy. Fuel pump spooled up, had full fuel pressure to rail, starter would spin, battery had full charge so dangit the ECM can really be only thing but did get my scope meter and spent the time to test the ECM while watching voltage and the oscilloscope which said it was not sending 5 volts from its on board voltage rectifier. It has a 5 volt and 8 volt rectifier and the 8 volt was working. Bread-boarded up a 13 volt to five volt rectifier and hoocked to battery, clipped it to the 5 volt output on ECM and truck cranked but had a slightly rough idle. Am putting that rectifier in the dash with my spare fuses.

Can dig the potting compound out and replace the 5 volt rectifier but its a 25 year old ECM so went to my favorite local parts store who said their vendor had none, could send then mine and would rebuild it for $250 but showed me Rock Auto had them for $199 and Ebay for $229. Called dealer and said if could find it would be over $500 easy.

Called my bottom tier vendor O'Reilly where I have an account who told me $183.99 out the door with a none year warranty and no core charge. Said it would be here in three days, meanwhile am already digging into potting silicon around the 5 volt rectifier which have read and sen on Utube where that part has a tendency for one of the four legs to pop off board on really hot days due to cold solder joints and it bad can be sourced from Mouser or Fry's for under $10 bucks. If able to fix the ECM will wrap it and put in Faraday box then install the rebuilt unit. If cant fix it going to buy another rebuild to put in Faraday box.

This was how many fuses found in the console of one little 1993 Dodge Dakota. Reckon I carry enough fuses and relays?



The under hood electrical box after changed every fuse and relay that could have had any impact on the system even though tested all the old ones.



The real moral of this story is if drive a 20 year old OBD vehicle a lot of functions that should be fused or pull and plug new in like the 5 volt and 8 volt rectifiers in the computer can be bypassed and truck made to run in a pinch. Had I known this on the side of the road and had either a code scanner (my older good one lives at house purchased new when it would not take the 2017 updates) or a scope meter in the truck could have pinched the end off my phone charging cord as is 5 volts DC and hooked to the TPS, cam sensor or anywhere the computer needed 5 volt control power and limped the truck home instead of paying a wrecker.

Going to shop under $100 code scanners soon, never been interested in a cheap one before as like to be able to pull all the codes including transmissions, anti-lock aka anti-stop brakes and chassis codes as just an engine code is no good if the trucks with an automatic start shifting odd or have a brake issue beyond rotors and pads. Also going to check fleabay for a $100 scope meter. Without an oscilloscope to go with multimeter functions its hard to diagnose complex electrical issues for sure.
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