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Old September 05, 2019, 22:32   #1
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Messican Food In New Messico is Blah

No cumin in the meat and zero chile gravey slopped on top.
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Old September 05, 2019, 23:06   #2
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I disagree.

New Mexican food is really itís own unique style. I think itís great, better then the texmex junk food you get most places in the USA.

Itís served with green or red chilies but I liked the ďChristmasĒ style with both.
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Old September 05, 2019, 23:22   #3
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I bet it beats Mexican food in Minnesota.

There are few enclaves of Mexicans in Minneapolis that make traditional food, but I tend to avoid places where I need to carry. Sad really.
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Old September 05, 2019, 23:24   #4
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I have to say new mex is best. I have encountered some disgusting shit in texas & oklahoma . I do not eat mex food in ok anymore. Its green chile season & if you donít know what green or red means then you is ignorant.
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Old September 06, 2019, 07:00   #5
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No cumin in the meat and zero chile gravey slopped on top.
The idea of "chile gravey [sic]" tells me you should stick with hamburger helper.

Hope this helps.

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Old September 06, 2019, 07:28   #6
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Ok, I'll give it another try. This place just didn't have any flavor.
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Old September 06, 2019, 07:29   #7
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Mexican food varies tremendously by region. I love most of the local flavors: Oaxaca for its smoked chili peppers, Jalisco for its spices, and both Guerrero and Veracruz for their seafood [very different styles BTW].

New Mexico, OTOH, was never a culinary hot spot for Mexican cuisine. At the risk of dissing somebody's New Mex abuela, you can only do so much with eggs, beans and tortillas. It's kinda Meh, even at its best.
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Old September 06, 2019, 07:31   #8
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Mexican food varies tremendously by region. I love most of the local flavors: Oaxaca for its smoked chili peppers, Jalisco for its spices, and both Guerrero and Veracruz for their seafood [very different styles BTW].

New Mexico, OTOH, was never a culinary hot spot for Mexican cuisine. At the risk of dissing somebody's New Mex abuela, you can only do so much with eggs, beans and tortillas. It's kinda Meh, even at its best.
Seems Texmex in San Antonio is more related to Jalisco as there are many restaurants that advertise the name.
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Old September 06, 2019, 07:31   #9
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East Tulsa has some of the best Mexican food around.

Tex-Mex crap abounds in most places, however.

New Mexico has some great food, but seems to be like a lot of places in TX, OK - the Mexicans can cook some great stuff, but instead serve up piles of cheesy, greasy crap aimed to please the gringos.
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I disagree, I've always enjoyed the food in Las Cruces, especially the Hatch Green Chile sauce
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How do New Mexicans even eat outside of the state... do they bring their own green chilis to put in f'n EVERYTHING? First time I spent any real time there I found more often than not I had to ask for too may things "hold the chilis." "You mean you don't want the green chilis on your cheeseburger?" Yes, that was a question I was asked in Tularosa some years back.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE NM, spent most of my vacation there this year (still have the white sand in the truck), but when a pepper is to NM what pumpkin spice is to every white 20-something girl come October, putting that $#!+ in everything just means everything tastes the same.
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Old September 06, 2019, 09:46   #12
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I have to say new mex is best. I have encountered some disgusting shit in texas & oklahoma . I do not eat mex food in ok anymore. Its green chile season & if you donít know what green or red means then you is ignorant.
Garbage Mexican fare abounds everywhere. I call it Mexican food made by white people for white people. Bland , wrong seasonings , partially cooked , tasteless peppers etc etc. I found in my area if you are in a city/suburb it's universally crap. If you go to small town/rural area Mexican places it's almost always awesome. But I have to say there are exceptions to the rule. For example where I have been working a lot of late in Indianapolis - in Carmel to be specific there is a placed called AGAVE on mainstreet , and man is it killer fresh and pretty damn good.
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Old September 06, 2019, 09:50   #13
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Ok, I'll give it another try. This place just didn't have any flavor.
Maybe try somewhere besides Taco Bell?
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I've noticed that Mexican food varies in NM. Green chili in the south to more red in the north. Southern NM green chili dishes tend to be spicy hot, especially when I arrived in 1970. Seems they offer more mild stuff now for the "visitors". If you hit the places the locals eat you will get hotter stuff unless you ask for mild. Hot green chili can be found from El Paso to about TorC. After that you have to hunt for it. Also is the flavor of the green chili. You get good taste from the Hatch and Deming green chilis. The stuff from India, which a lot of places use, give me a break.
I can tell you this. I was in Russia doing work. When I hit the Frankfort airport, all I could think about is landing in El Paso and getting a good green chili meat burrito. Yes, it is an addiction. However, I do draw a line at green chili ice cream.
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Old September 06, 2019, 11:03   #15
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If you go to small town/rural area Mexican places it's almost always awesome.
Pretty much true I'd say for Texas anyway. There are crummy TexMex cafes owned by Mexicans but the majority of them are damned good. Our town has about 6,000 population and there are four good places for TexMex here. It's a starchy diet though...
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Real Mexican food is frequently rather bland in my experience but it also depends on what region of Mexico you're in and who's cooking it. Real Mexican food frequently uses sauces that are rich and flavorful, but often not terribly spicy.

Tex-Mex is often spicy because we Gringos like it spicy. In Texas, the restaurants make use of a lot of jalapeno, poblano, and serrano peppers. In rare establishments, you'll find a small container of chili pequins on the table to add as a garnish- be forewarned, they're spicy like fire. Tex-Mex also makes use of a lot gravy like sauces as Melt refers to; something has to cover the enchiladas. And cheese, we love cheese on our Tex-Mex.

New Mexican cuisine as best I can tell is a specialty unto it's own. Lots of locally grown hatch chilis and decent sauces. Often a far different flavor profile than the Tex-Mex somebody from say San Antonio or Dallas might be used to. Not necessarily any better or worse; just different.

Personally, the best Tex-Mex and Mexican food is at the local places you can't hardly pronounce correctly. I had a pretty whoop-ass red snapper cooked in cilantro-tomatillo sauce at a local Mexico City style seafood joint last weekend. That restaurant was pretty authentic; the waitress and I had to use Google to translate back and forth because her English was about as good as my Spanish. And the snapper wasn't all that spicy, either.
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Old September 06, 2019, 11:49   #17
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Lol the town I am in AZ has just crap mexcian/southwest food ..About taco bell level ...Have yet to find one good mexcian place
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Lol the town I am in AZ has just crap mexcian/southwest food ..About taco bell level ...Have yet to find one good mexcian place
You live in the one area of the state with crap Messican food.

New Mexico has decent grub, as does Detroit. Never have been impressed with rest of the Midwest or Texas.
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Sad, but the only Mexican I have had in New Mexico is at the ABQ Airport....I thought it wasnít bad and like their salsa/sauce....
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Mexican food varies tremendously by region. ........
This ^

I grew up consuming Sonoran style food.

Not much "sauce" , but plenty of flavor from simple ingredients.

It is still my comfort food, but I must make it myself.


Here in OryGun, the natives make what they call chili with Kidney beans..

......fuggin abomination.....the Borgias would approve....


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Just about every "Mexican" restaurant I've ever eaten all tastes the same. The damn menus are interchangeable! Mostly its a hot plate holding mushy re-fried beans, dry rice, and some something covered with melted cheese. Regardless of the meat - fish, beef, chicken, pork, or shrimp - its all seasoned the same.

One place... a real 'hole in the wall' run down little building with five or six wobbly tables and only room outside for the same number of cars, seems to be authentic. All the Hispanics stop by. Only place I can get beef tongue tacos.

Started to learn how to make it at home. Creamy chicken enchiladas with green tomattia sauce the other night. "Maqueca" (Brazilian shrimp and fish stew) with homemade hot cherry pepper garnish, too. Often difficult to find the right ingredients, but comes out better than in the local Mex/Tex restaurants. I have to seek out grocery stores that cater to the local Hispanics.
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Went to another that was recommended by a local who speaks Spanish. It was pretty blah. Strike 2.
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Went to another that was recommended by a local who speaks Spanish. It was pretty blah. Strike 2.
Hint: potential good Mexican joints will have menudo on the menu, and the parking lot will most likely have trailers and roofing company trucks....the Mexicans working hard won't patronize crappy taco joints. Painted lettering on the windows brightly advertising TORTAS or MOLCAJETE are usually good indicators of quality cuisine. If there's a nearby convenience stare advertising money transfers to Mexico, you're getting warm.

If you're at the mall, or you don't feel just a bit uneasy about the area, your odds of getting truly great food are diminished.
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Lol the town I am in AZ has just crap mexcian/southwest food ..About taco bell level ...Have yet to find one good mexcian place
Check out Poco Cosa in Tucson. Pretty damn good IMHO!
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I bet it beats Mexican food in Minnesota.

There are few enclaves of Mexicans in Minneapolis that make traditional food, but I tend to avoid places where I need to carry. Sad really.
That's because the competition for Mexican style food in Minnesota is weak. You should try the Somalian restaurants where the competition is fierce, as is the neighborhoods they are int and the crowds that frequent them.

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gordos is fairly typical

https://m.yelp.com/biz/gordos-restaurant-gallup

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Went to another that was recommended by a local who speaks Spanish. It was pretty blah. Strike 2.
Where are you located in the state? Mexican food varies around the state.
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Where are you located in the state? Mexican food varies around the state.
Roswell. All the Messicans here are just aliens in disguise.
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I married a Mexican (Jalisco). Makes Mex food but won't eat chilis. Go figure. Tamales every Christmas (Tradition). Carne Asada, chiles rellenos, tacos, etc. many nights. Unfortunately she won't make me menudo or pasole though.
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Lol the town I am in AZ has just crap mexcian/southwest food ..About taco bell level ...Have yet to find one good mexcian place
El toreo in Clarkdale is pretty damn good.
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Never knew Ketchup could be used as salsa until I visited Idaho. Best Mexican food I've found was in California. Worst; hands down, Idaho.
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Check out Poco Cosa in Tucson. Pretty damn good IMHO!
Do they still have Los Betos in Tucsun? I used to chow down at the one on Speedway as they were open 24/7.
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So, you other New Mexico FALers, name some places you like to go! I am always interested in some good food!

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I just pulled out a bag of $1 chips and the last of the frito lay spicy queso till I get to Mama Margies soon.
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Do they still have Los Betos in Tucsun? I used to chow down at the one on Speedway as they were open 24/7.
Yes as far as I know, but it's not a place I ever went to more than once! Try Poco Cosa!
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In gallup: el sombrero, gordos, davids, don diegos, virgies. My fav us gordos. The flea market on saturday is good too. Go by bill petersonís reloading & gun store for ammo, guns, good stories and access to the shooting range.
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In SLC we tend to go to The Red Iguana for the moles. Usually long lines outside the building and around the parking lot.

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Well, here's what you're looking for; as TexMex fans and fans of that little ol' band from Texas will tell ya, it just doesn't get much better than this, bon appťtit!



See that little bowl of salt at center right? You dip your jalapeŮos in that...

That is one of the most famous, and most popular gatefolds in album history. I've often thought about taking that album to a TexMex cafe and asking them to recreate it in all its glory, damn the costs! Here'a good story about how the meal, originally made at now-closed Leo's Mexican Kitchen in Houston, was recreated a few years ago by an Austin chef:

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/zz-t...-hombres-meal/
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^^^funny, I was thinking about that spread yesterday from Tres Hombres
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No cumin in the meat and zero chile gravey slopped on top.
Sorry to hear that. New Mexican ďmexican foodĒ is our favorite if correctly done. Green chili, queso fresco, carnitas, black beans, blue corn etc.

We are actually roasting hatch green chilies now and the wife is making the meat potatoes, onions, and hominy. Thatís our version of green chi.
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I've lived in NM for over 45 years. It took me three years to figure out this chili thing. Over that time I have seen the food change to appeal to those from NJ and Minn. You can't count on Yelp because it will be biased toward Yankee transplants ( I was born in Pa and love good Italian and German/polish foods. But when in Rome... Jerseyites still p--s me off!)
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Sit down, fast food and Cheeseburgers. Places I hit:
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La Nueva Casita, good green and red sauce, excellent home made salsa. Been there since before I arrived but is starting to get the transplants.
Andele's dog house in old Mesilla Excellent green chili chicken. Pretty mild for the transplants.
Delicias del Mare on El Paseo. Hard to believe but excellent mexican seafood. Fish soup good but the grilled smoked octopus with black bean sauce. Best I've had anywhere.
La Morena on Dona Ana rd. Out in the fields, no transplants here. The cook worked a chef for one of the governors in Mexico. Just working thru the menu.
Fast food:
Saenz Gorditas on Solano. Been there for at least 25 years. Walk up window, sit outside. One of my son's favorites.
Burgertime: order a green chili burrito (mild or hot) add queso which they put in as they cook the hamburger meat. Messy but tasty. They also make there own rolled tacos. ( I had an order from Congressman Skeen back in the day, which I picked up and carried with me to DC)
Green chili cheeseburger:
Burgertime again: Order a super large but have them put it on a medium bun (less bread), not to crisp bacon and green chili.
Day's burgers downtown. Been around since 1928. Handformed patties with home cut fries and a bottle of mexican Coke. Yummm!
I love the GCCBs at the antelope bar in San Antonio, NM. Owl bar and grill were good but the antelope has overtaken them.
I think Bug Tussell will agree that Bodega burger in Socorro is pretty good too. Worth a stop.
Just this is just my taste buds speaking. Opinions may vary.
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There is one food unique to the Navajo reservation this time of year. That is the Kneel down bread made with hand ground corn And green chili. I used to buy this on the way to go elk hunting. Itís usually sold from vehicles along the highway on the Navajo reservation. Itís usually sold from vehicles along the highway on the Navajo reservation or at Navajo towns. Good stuff . Green chili is roasted this time of year and put in everything. Hamburgers, burritos, tacos, eggs, Navajo tacos, damn Iím starting to get hungry again
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This ^. There is a place in Arizona they make a burger on this bread. That Homer look
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No cumin in the meat and zero chile gravey slopped on top.
I you like cumin in your meat try taco bell.....
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Iíve been to Santa Fe numerous times over the last decade for work and have yet to find a place in that town that has green chile that lives up to the hype. Each time I go down there Iím on the hunt for a new place I havenít been to yet but so far no dice on awesome green chile.
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