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Old September 04, 2019, 21:45   #1
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Hawk rescue

Friday afternoon on the way home from work I passed a notorious intersection.
Cars on the side of the road, shocker. I shrugged and drove on. But as I drove by I saw two women standing next to a big BIRD on the side of the road.

Mind you this is fairly rural area, 1 mile north of Wilimington OH on a state route.

So seeing this I had to turn around and go back.

Two cars, two women, one red tailed hawk. Hawk just stood there, unfazed by people, with his left eye closed.

Women seemed to think he'd been hit by a car. No mention of witnessing such, just a supposition.

Hawk was clearly not in the best condition. I had leather gloves in the ranger ( wood cutting and such ) and a flannel shirt so I gathered him up and took him in to town, where a good vet had a young woman who happened to love raptors looked him over and gave him stabilizing treatment. Meanwhile I discovered ODNR had a reference for wildlife rescues, and a raptor rescue was 45 minutes away. After reaching out to them, it became clear that I had to house the hawk overnight till I could get it out to them.

And so I had a juvenile red tailed hawk spend the night on my dryer.

Good thing I put towells down.

The vet Friday evening noted that there was fresh blood on the skin around the talons indicating a fresh meal. My towells on top of the dryer seemed to confirm that.

The expert out at the raptor center said that by the plumage, the bird was a very healthy juvenile at about 2 years of age.

And so there the bird is, recovering, in the right hands. If it can regain it's sight out of that eye, perhaps I can participate in releasing it into the wild. If not then maybe it will get to live out its life there at the raptor centor. I dunno.

But this is the day a red tailed hawk came home with me and spent a night in my laundry room.





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Old September 04, 2019, 21:57   #2
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You have done your good deed for the day, bravo sir. Thank you for rescuing this hawk.
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Old September 04, 2019, 22:47   #3
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cool

Had a sharp shin go down in my AO decades ago.

He recovered.

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Old September 04, 2019, 22:52   #4
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As a Federally licensed Master Falconer I can tell you 50% of the birds hit by cars, need 24 hours of rest in a dark room to shake off the concussion. The other 50% have injuries that will take them from tier 1 predators to bottom feeder prey in a matter of days , if not hours. Unfortunately, it is the cycle of a wild animals life. I hope the Red Tail recovers and can be released.
For anyone recovering an injured bird, first rule is unless it is in imminent danger, leave it along. The capture can do more harm than good, it will either shake off the trauma or die on site due to injuries or other predators. Dragging a wing is damaged beyond repair. That is a death sentence. Head tucked under a wing is a concussion and 50-50. Blood from beak and eye is typically terminal. Just sitting/standing on the ground but semi alert is mostly recoverable and you just need too leave it alone. 90% chance that bird will snap out of it and fly off. If it is in a dangerous place (roadside such as yours) throw a blanket over it, cradle it covered and get CONTROL OF THE TALONS. They don't BITE, they use the Talons like a professional razor blade knife fighter. Your face, eyes and exposed flesh will suffer greatly from their defensive maneuverers. Place it in a small dark space like a dog crate covered in towels or large box. DO NOT FEED OR WATER IT. Leave it alone. If it survives 8 hours, okay, 24 hours is good, 48 hours is really good. Allow a Wildlife professional to access the bird for release. Keeping one captive is a full time job and ILLEGAL in the US without FEDERAL permits.
Been capturing (healthy juvenile Red tails) for 25 years and training them to hunt squirrels and rabbits. Most fun you can have fully dressed in the lower 48....
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Good for you. Not many would have the presence to take the actions you did to help the hawk. Let's hope it recovers and leads a long and happy life.
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Thank you for all efforts on saving this beautiful bird. Thinking back over the years at all i have saved to include a bobcat,wild boar ( before there was trillion of them ) lots of hawks and what turned out to be a good pet several crows.
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I'm non-interventionist, mostly, but nice work guys!

Hopefully, Mr. Hawk will soar and hunt again.
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That is a bad ass bird! Good Job!

I once saved a kestrel from a larger gray hawk or falcon, happened in college.. but on the way to the wildlife way station it got loose in my baja bug and ended up on my right shin... sat there while I drove 20 miles in the Bug rowing the gears.. I was just hoping he did not start flexing his talons.. He caught me a bit on the hand initially and yup! SHARP AS SHIT!!

Got 'him' there safe and sound and i think it made a full recovery.. best I remember...
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I've had a red tailed hawk around my property for close to ten years. I see and hear him all the time.
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Way too many of them where I grew up. I wouldnt have lost a moment of sleep if a red tail expired.
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Nice. Always had an affinity to Red Tailed Hawks. Goes back many years. Use to love hanging my legs over a tall ledge watching Red Tails and Ravens fly along the ridges I used to hike. Good on you. Thanks for the pics.
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Old September 05, 2019, 23:18   #13
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Great pictures. Thank you.

30 years ago it was rare to see a hawk or an eagle. Now I see them every day. This is a good sign I think. Must be global warming.

Intervention with wild animals is usually not productive. But it usually isn't counter productive either. I say good on you for the rescue. I hope the bird survives.

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As a Federally licensed Master Falconer I can tell you 50% of the birds hit by cars, need 24 hours of rest in a dark room to shake off the concussion. The other 50% have injuries that will take them from tier 1 predators to bottom feeder prey in a matter of days , if not hours. Unfortunately, it is the cycle of a wild animals life. I hope the Red Tail recovers and can be released.
For anyone recovering an injured bird, first rule is unless it is in imminent danger, leave it along. The capture can do more harm than good, it will either shake off the trauma or die on site due to injuries or other predators. Dragging a wing is damaged beyond repair. That is a death sentence. Head tucked under a wing is a concussion and 50-50. Blood from beak and eye is typically terminal. Just sitting/standing on the ground but semi alert is mostly recoverable and you just need too leave it alone. 90% chance that bird will snap out of it and fly off. If it is in a dangerous place (roadside such as yours) throw a blanket over it, cradle it covered and get CONTROL OF THE TALONS. They don't BITE, they use the Talons like a professional razor blade knife fighter. Your face, eyes and exposed flesh will suffer greatly from their defensive maneuverers. Place it in a small dark space like a dog crate covered in towels or large box. DO NOT FEED OR WATER IT. Leave it alone. If it survives 8 hours, okay, 24 hours is good, 48 hours is really good. Allow a Wildlife professional to access the bird for release. Keeping one captive is a full time job and ILLEGAL in the US without FEDERAL permits.
Been capturing (healthy juvenile Red tails) for 25 years and training them to hunt squirrels and rabbits. Most fun you can have fully dressed in the lower 48....

Most of that was on my mind when I came on him on the side of the road. I have leather gloves in the truck due to woodcutting regularly and a flannel as the mornings have been cool. The bird was approachable and the flannel over the head and gloved left hand made it a very easy affair. He rode calmly that way into town as I spoke with two vets and did some research. One vet referred me to another, where a young woman that had an affinity for raptors and experience at a rescue while she was in school worked. I helped her give the bird a checkup, and finding no broken bones or other damage other than the eye, she gave it pain meds and a drop of something in the eye, and turned me loose with the bird and her evaluation, and a warning not to try to keep the bird. Meanwhile I had discovered that the Ohio Department of Natural Resources keeps a .pdf of wildlife rescues around the state, listed by county and with areas of expertise, points of contact, and addresses listed. 45 minutes away was a raptor rescue. I did get ahold of someone there right away, and after discussing the birds rather stable condition, it was determined that a dark quiet night followed by bringing it in the morning would be best. So he camped out on the dryer in the dark laundry room.

Saturday morning we went in. The young woman there looked him over and gave him high hopes for recovery. I am going in tomorrow to see how he's doing. They said he was a two year old juvenile, and as such, his instincts when stressed are to just chill out and be still. Adults will struggle, she said, but the injury may have played a role as well. I was always aware that the head can rotate like an owls, the beak is a tearing device, and the gloves were really just there to make me feel better about the situation.

As much as it really pains me to say something nice or work with something as liberal as Antioch College, I'm just going to focus on the birds and and try to ignore the rest. Here's where he went.

https://www.glenhelen.org/raptor-center
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Old September 07, 2019, 06:54   #15
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Good job!

Like said hold your breath at Antioch but do run up 68 and get you some Young's ice cream.
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Good on you,,,

I rescued a barred owl that got blinded in one eye and was seriously malnourished years ago...After he decided to make my back deck his new home...He went on to a raptor rehabilitator, regained his health and then ended up at a small county zoo in IL...
At least he lived...
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Glad this one might live to fight another day. Definitely beating the odds if it recovers.

Raptor "rescues" are a double edged sword. One the one hand, natural selection is critical to a long term healthy population of any species. Hunting roadsides and getting whacked by cars isn't a long term strategy for keeping ones bloodline viable! Neither is flying into large glass doors or perching on Power pole transformers. The terminal nature of most of these activities helps reduce the number of Raptors that pass this behavior along to offspring!

Since these birds are federally protected by the Migratory Bird treaty Act, possession of birds, bird PARTS including an individual feather, is pretty taboo without a shit ton of permitting. As a Falconer, I'm allowed to keep up to three Raptors for sporting purposes. It is against the law for me to rehab or keep a bird for medical rehabilitation. Even though I have more intimate medical knowledge then most rehabbers (most are licensed baby sitters) I can't intervene without risking my license for sport. (crazy I know). Once someone takes a bird to rehabber, the bird becomes the rehabbers responsibility for the LIFE of the bird. Blind and birds with broken wings will never hunt wild again, must be maintained until natural events take the birds life. There are a limited amount of birds a rehabber can accept. Most rehabbers will only accept "repairable" birds because once they reach the number of birds allowed on their permit, they can't take any more. Birds that could possibly be saved are routinely turned away to die because there is literally "no room in the Inn" because birds that "Should" have been allowed to die from their injuries were instead "saved" and now get a free welfare ride at the cost of other viable birds... I wish we could save them ALL, but the reality is much more cruel. I get calls several times a year about advice on rescues and as heart breaking as it is, the BEST advice 95% of the time is to do nothing and let nature take its course. Roadside rescues often end up as roadkill when the rescuer chases the injured bird in front of a 18 wheeler... each state administers and enforces the Federal regulation differently. Some are very accommodating , other states are down right draconian. Sounds like you have a pretty good Wildlife Resource division.
I am very pleased it worked out well in your case. I'll be curios to hear updates so please keep us posted. As powerful and majestic as ALL of these birds are to us, the truth is they are incredibly FRAGILE. There is no margin for error in their world. Raptor care is a dark art ( more leeches and voodoo spells/ hand me down recipes and home remedies ) then real world scientific veterinary care. The number of bird specialist nation wide in the hundreds if not less.

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Very good thing you did there! Not too many Red Tails in my AO but certainly see Bald Eagles and Osprey often. Spotted one a while back that must have been a juvenile Gyrfalcon, it is the only one of those I had seen and had to look it up to see what it was. The fall Chinook run up the Siuslaw River should be bringing in a few more Balds. And we have no shortage of Grey Heron and Snowy Egret on the river too.

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Stopped out there today to inquire. The report is that his closed eye has opened but they are not sure how well he is seeing out of it. He is flying very well. Red tails have apparently been know to do pretty well with one eye (what they said, hard to believe but what do I know) and the hope for release is high. They keep published stats on the birds they take in and what happens to them; an unfortunate many are euthanized. I suspect that follows the grim reality you describe, freak. Many are released, though, and the ones that survive on as guests there at the center serve as educational ambassadors and increase raptor awareness. I had no idea Ohio here had SO many birds of prey. So in the end I suspect that the program does have a positive overall impact on conservation. I like the idea even if it does come from Antioch College.

Yellow Springs is it's own breed of crazy, but as mentioned, there is Youngs dairy there, and right now the sunflower field at Tecumseh Land Trust. We'll wander over there for those things. I steer clear of the town itself at all costs.
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So, here's how it all worked out. His eye did not recover, but the rehab center said he was doing OK with one, and hawks had a good reputation for being successful in the wild with one eye, so best to let him have a go at the wild. I got to do the release, and I took him back to a railroad crossing with trees a couple hundred yards from where I picked him up. It took him a couple minutes to get used to being free, then he circled the field and settled into a tall oak several hundred yards away. As good as it gets I guess. He fairly burst out of that box though. Looks like I could maybe burst into the gym a little more too... dang married life and all.





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Nice save Adam! Goon on you brother.
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