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Old April 22, 2019, 16:51   #1
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Who made the best bayonet?

Is there a consensus that one bayonet is better than all the others.
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Old April 22, 2019, 17:28   #2
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Turkish ersatz for the G1.

Opposition looks at the G1s and think the Turks have no bayonets, then SURPRISE!
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Old April 22, 2019, 17:33   #3
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Turkish ersatz for the G1.

Opposition looks at the G1s and think the Turks have no bayonets, then SURPRISE!
I've got one. The are pretty gruesome looking.
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Old April 22, 2019, 20:43   #4
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All I'm really asking for here is a knife that will not jam and a unicorn that doesn't need sharpening. Will_Power
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Old April 22, 2019, 21:03   #5
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Old April 22, 2019, 21:48   #6
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Purely for parry and thrust.... the Chinese spikes are probably best for the task....but more and more kept being asked of a bayonet till they have become more knife/utility than implement for delivering life taking thrusts at close range and instilling fear in the enemy....
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Old April 23, 2019, 09:53   #7
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Is there an American made bayonet that is considered the best of all of them?
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Old April 23, 2019, 12:02   #8
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Old April 23, 2019, 12:20   #9
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Is there an American made bayonet that is considered the best of all of them?
Andy pretty well nailed it in his post

If you are asking what's the best bayonet for sticking folks with ?
Anything prior to the Krag, most all have a triangular cross section

The idea behind that is it is designed to create a self supporting wound channel
puncture and run it through a major organ the bleed out is massive

Same principle was applied to 1st series American Trench knives in WWI and after that to certain English SOE daggers during WWII
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Is there an American made bayonet that is considered the best of all of them?
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Old April 28, 2019, 01:17   #11
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Old April 29, 2019, 14:55   #12
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Thats like buying one of those electric chain saws with the power cord only 18" long. Got's to do all your cutting close to the outlet! *laugh*
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Old April 29, 2019, 15:17   #13
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Thats like buying one of those electric chain saws with the power cord only 18" long. Got's to do all your cutting close to the outlet! *laugh*
You have obviously never made a P B and J with a glock bayonet.
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Old April 29, 2019, 18:02   #14
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Old August 21, 2019, 14:19   #15
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Is there a consensus on Tanto-blade bayonets? The only two major ones I can name are the CZ 805 bayonet/field knife and the Eickhorn SG2000 series, such as the standard, the WC (wire cutter) and WC F (wire cutter, French model).

I find the 805 and the SG2000 WC F to be pretty potent knifes, let alone bayonets. They're intimidating looking, beefy enough to be used as crow bars and are just impressive looking and probably hugely useful, even when not used as a fighting knife or bayonet. I'd be more impressed though if they were used on rifles that had barrels longer than the 14" of the Bren 2 or the 14.5" of the HK416FS. That being said, they'll fit on about any rifle that will take NATO spec (M7/M9) bayonet fittings.
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Old August 21, 2019, 21:34   #16
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Arguably, the French 1866 Chassepot bayonet is the best of the bunch...

https://www.arizonacustomknives.com/...t_186554_1.jpg
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Old August 22, 2019, 09:15   #17
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Thats like buying one of those electric chain saws with the power cord only 18" long. Got's to do all your cutting close to the outlet! *laugh*
But... what if you attach the electric chainsaw to the rail in a Glock? Automatically it went from ridiculous to awesome in a warhammer 4000 way
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Old August 22, 2019, 10:37   #18
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I'm with RSS on this one.



I would, however, use one of each with my Krag, as seen below.





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Old August 22, 2019, 11:17   #19
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Overall, my vote goes to Fiskars in Finland.
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Old August 22, 2019, 14:23   #20
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I'm no expert on bayonets, but I've always thought the Arisaka type were very impressive. Fairly long, and usually very sharp.
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Old August 22, 2019, 23:30   #21
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I was going to say, "If it doesn't start with 'The Swiss...', then it's wrong. "

But TerryN for the win.
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Old August 23, 2019, 08:31   #22
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I’d vote for the Swiss STGw 57as the nicest maybe best as far as workmanship and quality.

My favorite military edged weapon smaller than a sword is the m1904 Hospital Bolo. I got one from my grandfather.. this is the machete of all machetes. Fits like a tailored glove. So much weight in the blade. When I found out it was a hospital bolo, all I could think of was a field amputation. Kind of sobering.

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Old August 23, 2019, 10:44   #23
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Dahlgren gets my vote. It wouldn't likely have been the best choice on the battlefield, but within the confines of a ship's deck, it likely worked pretty well.

Originals go for $1500+ depending on condition. Dixie used to sell reproductions, somewhat crude of course compared to those made by Ames of Chicopee, Ma.
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Old August 23, 2019, 11:20   #24
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While it may not be made by the Swiss, the Soviet Type 2 6x4 Bayonet is the most practical for combat.

Clipped point, saw back, blade.

Built-in insulted wire cutter for cutting electrified fencing.

Heavy steel pommel for hammering stuff.

The US ripped off the design with the Phobis M9.



The gopniks also made their version of the "Woodman's Pal" - the Spetsnatz Survival Machete that was pretty bad ass, too. Don't know how much service it ever saw, though. Definitely not as much as the standard issue bayos.

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Old August 24, 2019, 09:19   #25
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Now we know who Mauser and Enfield copied their bayonets from.

Personally I think something like this (sawback)

with some rust and dings so it is not cutting only in one plane would be more interesting. Which goes back to warhammer
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