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Old September 15, 2019, 14:46   #1
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Please Help Me Value A Friends L1A1

A friend of mine is liquidating his firearms and has requested my help. While I am fairly knowledgeable regarding some firearms, I know very little about the L1A1 rifle. He bought it about 9 or10 years ago.

It has made in Canada stamped on the magazine well and CAI L1A1 also stamped on the receiver.

Any help I can get to value this rifle is very much appreciated.
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Old September 15, 2019, 14:48   #2
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Sorry, it looks like I posted in the wrong forum.
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Old September 15, 2019, 15:12   #3
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This is the correct forum to ask that question. Photos would def help, and some details like cut for FAL or L1A1 mags, etc.
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Old September 15, 2019, 15:27   #4
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Try this link. If it works, I'll post others. If you right click the image and select 'view image' it will open up.


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Old September 15, 2019, 17:22   #6
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Figure a British L1A1 Parts Kit sells for $700 - $750 depending on condition of barrel

Scope no clue

Top cover no idea

Century Receiver 200 - 300 range

Gun smith service to put it together varies.

So you can better estimate the value of this complete rifle.
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Old September 15, 2019, 20:30   #7
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Looks like an Imbel receiver to me. Separate from the kit the receiver is worth about $500-600. Would help to know if it takes inch or metric mags. The kit is worth about $600-650.

If you sell it as a complete rifle then probably $800-850 (crazy FAL math).

Scope is basically worthless to FAL people, so best to sell alone.
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Old September 15, 2019, 21:51   #8
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Can you post a pic of the front of the magazines he is using in it. While it does not rule out inch if he is running metric it will confirm it is cut for inch if that is what he is able to use. Trust us on this...
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Old September 16, 2019, 01:20   #9
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Made in Canada stamped Century guns were all on imported receivers, generally Imbels. Never seen an Argentine but maybe GP has

These were all assembled in Montreal, best of century builds mostly by former canuck armorers...I knew a couple

not seen a one recut to inch mags, the wells were all metric when CAI rolled them out so far as I know

later they moved assembly stateside to their crew of apes who attempted to grind in inch mag well cuts
after that the monkey squad was building on Hesse, Coonan and other domestic type three receivers.

my understanding is the Imbels Century ordered to Montreal were factory cut for tabbed inch pattern covers, every one I have inspected over the years was.

Great Receiver, easy $500 stripped
the rest ?
$400+ torn off it depending on barrel and how the suppressor was mounted
seen them literally glued in place

if you snag it contact member yellowhand for wood furniture, that will enhance it a bit. Shit, I'll toss you a ratty top cover for free that will need a refinish. It's rusty but it's the right price

GunJuicy, I mean GunPlumber can go through it, refinish it to near new spec but he is usually backed up some

Do that and value will be seriously enhanced
as it sits though, maybe an $800 rifle
some might pay more, most less

btw, the Made in Canada marked guns are very early CAI assembly
like early 90s

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Old September 16, 2019, 07:20   #10
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$800 as a complete rifle. Parted out $500 for the receiver, $500 for the british parts kit.
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not seen a one recut to inch mags, the wells were all metric when CAI rolled them out so far as I know
You haven't seen them all, then.
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Old September 17, 2019, 20:28   #12
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The magazines have the metric, or European, semi-circular catch and that's how the mag well in the receiver is cut also. Can I refer to it as an IMBEL receiver? One of the magazines still has a $25 price sticker on it. Probably higher today?

Really appreciate everybody's' help!
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Can you show the markings on the receiver? Not serial number but everything else. It does look like a Type 3 one. For instance, it looks like there are some markings inside the mag well.

Also, I can't see the codes by the safety selector.

About magazines, look at the marketplace or gunbroker for an idea on price. Proper British mags still go for more than metric ones.
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Made in Canada stamped Century guns were all on imported receivers, generally Imbels. Never seen an Argentine but maybe GP has

These were all assembled in Montreal, best of century builds mostly by former canuck armorers...I knew a couple

not seen a one recut to inch mags, the wells were all metric when CAI rolled them out so far as I know
Nope. Imbel machined an unknown number of their receivers with the inch magwell cut for further assembly by CAI. Had several over the years. In 2005, I also had Entreprise cut several type 3 receivers with inch mag cuts as I had and still do, have a ton of inch mags that the British Army gladly donated to me ( ) when they changed over from the L1A1 to the L85A1...
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Old September 17, 2019, 23:18   #15
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some more pics. There are no other numbers or markings inside of or outside on the upper receiver. Nothing in the mag well.
The receiver cover is marked DSA SA58. Don't know when it replaced the original.










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Just updated pics. Would like to know if this is an IMBEL receiver. There are no other markings on the receiver, inside or out, other than what is shown in the pics.
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The upper is Imbel. GLWS
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Old September 18, 2019, 11:54   #18
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A similar L1A1 on GB with wood furniture for reference.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/831770177
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Thank you, Sir. What is GLWS?
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What is GLWS?
"Good Luck With the Sale".
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Old September 18, 2019, 16:37   #21
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Thank you, Andy.
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Old September 21, 2019, 17:39   #22
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The upper is Imbel. GLWS
Are you sure? Something about it just says Argy to me. I guess it's the color and the smoothness of the finish. Of course I could be wrong though.
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... Something about it just says Argy to me...
iirc, CAI-imported Argy receivers have the serial# (typically 'C-xxxx) on the right/rear, of the mag well, but stranger things have happened...
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Are you sure? Something about it just says Argy to me. I guess it's the color and the smoothness of the finish. Of course I could be wrong though.
It’s Imbel. I know of no Argy uppers that were cut for L1A1 top cover tabs. To the best of my knowledge all the CAI imported Argy have the “C” prefix S/N located on the right rear of the receiver.
Also the Argentine receivers have the “notch”(like the FN) at the top of the rear right side. The one in the photo does not.
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