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Old July 16, 2019, 21:47   #1
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Shortages,yet?

I'm seeing stuff on some youtube channels referencing shortages in the supply chain,of things like peas,and some other canned veggies in the food supply.
Stooped at the dollar store the other day to grab cans of various fruit to throw in the truck,and it seemed like they didn't have squat for variety. You guys noticing anything?
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Old July 16, 2019, 21:52   #2
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Seems normal in Northern Idaho but up here we lean more on the farmers market business for veggies.
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Old July 16, 2019, 22:12   #3
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I haven't noticed anything. Where are the shortages supposedly from? The wet spring weather?
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Old July 16, 2019, 23:23   #4
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I started noticing less stuff in general in grocery stores about a year ago. Less shelving, more floor space. Specific items missing and not being restocked. Years ago I noticed sardines in sardine oil just went away. Products come and go, but for some time now I've had a perception of a gradual draw down.
Think I'll buy some canned soup & fish tomorrow.

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Old July 16, 2019, 23:24   #5
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I’ve heard of shortages on “prepper” type foods due to emergency response and general post-event panic in California (earthquakes), the Midwest (floods), etc. Haven’t seen any noticeable shortages outside of that though.
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Old July 16, 2019, 23:50   #6
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I will do my monthly shopping this Friday at Winco, that's the earliest I can check out the shelves.
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Old July 17, 2019, 00:45   #7
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A little here and there.

This fall should be interesting,,,all the summer crops,,,being under water with all the heavy rains.

LDS store seems to still have everything in stock.

They are my barometer for all this.

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Old July 17, 2019, 07:12   #8
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Retailers, especially groceries, use of "just in time" inventory practices are likely to blame for some items being unavailable. Personally, I haven't noticed any shortages other than that. Fresh vegetables, including lots of organics, frozen and canned vegetables are still in abundance here.
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Old July 17, 2019, 10:29   #9
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Nothing specific but it always surprises me when WalMart does not have certain things on the shelf. Some different canned stuff is missing at different times, Applesauce, certain peanut butters. It blows my mind that a firm that was built on logistics and should be the absolute master of the universe of it can not keep stuff on the shelf. But I try not to see anything nefarious when simple stupidity or sorryness might be an easier answer.
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Some signs showing up at Kroger's (Smith's) and Wally World now.

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Old July 17, 2019, 12:42   #11
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Canned foods last a very long time,,,people have been warned.
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Old July 17, 2019, 14:50   #12
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Up here,in Michigan,the wheat still looks really good,and is damn near ready to start threshing. Sugar beets look okay,I guess. Soy beans are kinda meh..lots of guys just got them in,like a week back or so. Dry beans..same story. Corn is all over the place,growth wise. Some is a couple feet tall,some just ankle high. We get rain this fall,in quantity,we could be screwed.

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Old July 17, 2019, 16:49   #13
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I checked at a local WalMart today and it does appear that canned vegies are kind of underrepresented on the shelves compared to 'normal.'

Of course, it's hard to tell whether that's due to real scarcity or just from people starting to hoard due to the news...

And, as yellowhand says, canned goods do last a long time and, if you don't have a bunch stored away, well, you may already be behind the curve...

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Them canned LDS carrots, beans, rice, are calling my name,,,again.

Stored properly,,,stuff keeps for decades upon decades.

One day,,for some reason,,we're going to have a severe food crisis.

For a pretty low cost,,,food insurance just makes good sense.

For some.
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Old July 17, 2019, 18:32   #15
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Them canned LDS carrots, beans, rice, are calling my name,,,again.

Stored properly,,,stuff keeps for decades upon decades.

One day,,for some reason,,we're going to have a severe food crisis.

For a pretty low cost,,,food insurance just makes good sense.

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Living just outside an urban/ suburban area ensures a plentiful supply of protein.
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Old July 17, 2019, 18:51   #17
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Though canned food does,indeed,last more than a couple years,I don't see Walmart shelving cans that are more than a year old. They have their inventory system so friggin' micro-managed,its scary.But they are dealing with millions of dollars worth of canned stuff every day.
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Old July 17, 2019, 22:03   #18
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As for canned goods on the shelf we are kind of at the end of the season. Usually the local places all run their sales on canned goods in October or November, usually 3 or 4 for $1. Right now a lot of things are 'out of season'. Potatoes, onions, apples. Give it a couple months before you panic, the shelves will be overflowing shortly.
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I started noticing less stuff in general in grocery stores about a year ago. Less shelving, more floor space. Specific items missing and not being restocked. Years ago I noticed sardines in sardine oil just went away. Products come and go, but for some time now I've had a perception of a gradual draw down.
Think I'll buy some canned soup & fish tomorrow.
Just the opposite here, grocery stores and WalMart have narrowed their aisles to fit more stuff.
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Old July 18, 2019, 14:41   #20
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Winco today had the shelves packed full and many cans of veggies on sale. No shortage here at all.
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POTUS got pissed at USDA for posting farm report last year that showed small farmers would get it worse than big corporate farms on his proposed tax bill.

So, he banished the entire USDA Economic Research Service from DC to Kansas City. Get-out-of-town date is September 27. About 250 scientists/economists. Most have quit rather than relocate to the death camp in KC.

Big boss man will be free to just make up numbers and predictions now.

He's also booted-out (to Alabama) the FBI office that ran the Mueller investigation.

All of the DC office for BLM is being shipped to Colorado. Not sure what BLM's transgression is. Maybe nothing. Suspect a public-lands grab of some sort in the works.

Food will be on the shelves until it isn't.
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I gotta wonder how many of those 250 ag prognosticators have ever actually worked on a farm. Reckon maybe he figures they work better a little closer to the corn fields? Maybe appreciate what's on the dinner table a bit more? We,as a nation,just expect food to be there,24/7/365...what ever we desire.
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POTUS got pissed at USDA for posting farm report last year that showed small farmers would get it worse than big corporate farms on his proposed tax bill.

So, he banished the entire USDA Economic Research Service from DC to Kansas City. Get-out-of-town date is September 27. About 250 scientists/economists. Most have quit rather than relocate to the death camp in KC.

Big boss man will be free to just make up numbers and predictions now.

He's also booted-out (to Alabama) the FBI office that ran the Mueller investigation.

All of the DC office for BLM is being shipped to Colorado. Not sure what BLM's transgression is. Maybe nothing. Suspect a public-lands grab of some sort in the works.

Food will be on the shelves until it isn't.
Sounds like he's draining the swamp critters to me.
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Walmarts in our area were out of low priced orange juice for several days. I like the GV orange juice made not from concentrate and with pulp.

None to be had.......
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Was in Whalemart the other night. Looking for canned fruit,peaches mainly. Seemed like a lot of space not being used on the shelves. They had Whalemart brand,Dole,and Delmonte. Still lots of junk food.
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Up here,in Michigan,the wheat still looks really good,and is damn near ready to start threshing. Sugar beets look okay,I guess. Soy beans are kinda meh..lots of guys just got them in,like a week back or so. Dry beans..same story. Corn is all over the place,growth wise. Some is a couple feet tall,some just ankle high. We get rain this fall,in quantity,we could be screwed.

I watch Adapt 2030 channel,and Iceage farmer channel. Both are geared towards watching changing weather and solar patterns,and how it affects us.
I watch them also.
Try 'The Oppenheimer Ranch Project'. I think you will enjoy it.

I saw that there has been mention about canned veggie shortages, so today I had a few minutes to check Wallyworld. Yep, those notices all over the canned veggie isle.

Looked for canned Kippered Herring at Fred Meyer(Kroger) yesterday. Not even an empty space where they should be. So I bought a rack at Walmart today.

Last year the same Fred Meyer store reorganized the entire floor, widening all the isles. Hmmmmm.
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"Try 'The Oppenheimer Ranch Project'. I think you will enjoy it."

I occasionally do,and his other channel,magnetic reversal news. But that guy is such a wired nut,he gets hard to watch after a while. Not saying he isn't smart.

You gotta watch the Kipper snacks. I avoid any not canned either Here,Canada,or western Europe. Lots of them are canned in China. Who knows what's in those.
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We have so much food here its ridiculous. That said, I saw thousands of acres of empty fields driving through northern ohio. I didn't start looking till I noticed a guy working ground in the middle of july. We all had weird weather but apparently they had it worse.
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That's what the clown does now. What a guy!
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Sounds like he's draining the swamp critters to me.
I thought the “swamp” was supposed to refer to CONGRESS???

I guess getting rid of hard-working scientist-type employees who analyze proposals and who the write unpopular reports that go counter to the lies will have to suffice. And after all, it just FEELS GOOD to regurgitate pablum rhetoric in the smug (and false) belief that that good works are being done.
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I thought the “swamp” was supposed to refer to CONGRESS???

I guess getting rid of hard-working scientist-type employees who analyze proposals and who the write unpopular reports that go counter to the lies will have to suffice. And after all, it just FEELS GOOD to regurgitate pablum rhetoric in the smug (and false) belief that that good works are being done.
Speaking of unpopular reports no-one wants to know about, here is an eye opener for the 'Team 'Merica will always prevail' gang. A real eye opener.

http://www.airforcemag.com/DocumentF...or-FY-2018.pdf

Gettin' jiggy with it.
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Believe that specious justification if you like.
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We have so much food here its ridiculous. That said, I saw thousands of acres of empty fields driving through northern ohio. I didn't start looking till I noticed a guy working ground in the middle of july. We all had weird weather but apparently they had it worse.
I asked my farmer friend about crops yesterday. He related he had to take a couple trips out of state,and seeing very noticeable empty fields south of Michigan. Fields not planted. We shouldn't take the plenty we've always had as a future certainty.
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We shouldn't take the plenty we've always had as a future certainty.
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I thought the “swamp” was supposed to refer to CONGRESS???

I guess getting rid of hard-working scientist-type employees who analyze proposals and who the write unpopular reports that go counter to the lies will have to suffice. And after all, it just FEELS GOOD to regurgitate pablum rhetoric in the smug (and false) belief that that good works are being done.
Congress are the little swamp critters,,,the major swamp critters,,are all the federal agencies full of lifetime employees writing rules and regulations,, doing interpretations of laws,,, without any "we the people" oversight.

Elected members of congress are afraid of these people.

Ya want an example,,,remember when the CDC,,got on the liberal band wagon of being anti gun until they were told,,,we'll cut your federal funding????

All those hard working scientist,,medical professional, would disarm all of us in a NY second.
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With Hurricane Season here from June - November. Any squall incites mass panic and stores are run dry, water / bread / canned goods. Always try to keep several months worth of essentials stocked at all times.
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Crop security? Talk to a farmer. We live in agri land here south of Albuqueerque. Farmers around here are mainly alfalfa farmers. Maybe you get three cuttings, maybe you get four for a season. Maybe it rains after you cut so now your premium horse bales are now black cow bales.

We have a small apple crop this year. Used to be that we had a crop most years now most years we don't have a crop due to blossom freeze. This year's crop is small due to blossom freeze timing. Some trees are loaded, some trees are bare, and some trees have a nicely nature thinned crop of apples.

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Bought a flat (12 cans) of 75 cent fruit cocktail in light juice last night, and two cans of pork&beans, I should be good for the remainder of hurricane season. Seriously though, I was telling somebody just the other day that I rode out Michael last year without being part of the problem. In other words, I did not need to go to the bank for cash, the pumps for gas (either for the car/truck or the generator), or the store for food. Power was out for a week or so at the house. We got a little warm sometimes but not bad, ate good though.
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Been adding more little by little. Today bought 100 lbs of long grain rice at Costco for storage. May get another 100 lbs this week since I have a few more empty gray water bricks.

Did the same thing about 4 years ago with these water bricks. Great for grain storage:

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