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Old August 10, 2019, 19:21   #51
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Lets see the body!

Me too. Maybe someone died in his place.
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Old August 10, 2019, 19:24   #52
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Me too. Maybe someone died in his place.
Right - very easy to do if there's no camera on the cell or in the cell.

Someone that well connected with that much money...easy to believe he was just announced dead an then whiskey away to hide somewhere to be kept quiet til the end of his days.
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Old August 10, 2019, 19:37   #53
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USAG Barr is "livid" after learning of Epstein's death by suicide. He has promised a full DOJ investigation into the matter.....

Anyone want to bet that after said investigation the BOP staff at the MCC New York who were on duty this morning will find themselves out of a job and quite possibly facing charges of dereliction of duty.

In the end the matter will just go away like it almost always happens. Life goes on until the next one.....

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PMSNBC has their hair on fire claiming AG Barr is behind this. They think he ordered Epstein's murder in prison to keep damaging info about Trump's involvement with Epstein's pedo island. They are convinced DT was there too. Even with dems names already in the public eye, they seem to be willing to let other dems fall if it will take Trump down too. They will go to any lengths.
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Old August 10, 2019, 19:40   #54
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Whitey Bulger did not last 24 hours, in his new Va Fed Prison.

The Deep State acted to protect Bill Clinton; the dumbass guards who allowed it, will be dead along with their families within a short period of time, homes full of coke and cash..

On Cuomo/DeBlasio/Letitia Jame's watch.
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And now the prison is saying the CCTV cameras stopped working at the time of Epstein's death

Isn't this one wild shitshow?

What about the prison guard on suicide watch detail?
He's got to go.
Will he be diagnosed with a rare and fatal form of cancer or will there be a fatal car accident or will he slip and fall in the shower.
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Sorry, no video, no pics. Jeffery is already buried at sea with OBL...... some of you guys fell for that one.





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Bodies of under-aged sex slaves should be discovered any day now.
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I think that from time to time there had to be girls that thought about calling the authorities. I wonder how they were dealt with?
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Old August 10, 2019, 21:28   #62
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Anybody wanna give odds on some sort of "surveillance camera malfunction" happening at the jail?
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And now the prison is saying the CCTV cameras stopped working at the time of Epstein's death

Isn't this one wild shitshow?
WTF? Are you sh!tting me? LOL!

The EXACT SAME SHIT happened during the Oklahoma City Bombing. All the storefront surveillance cameras along McVeigh's route to the Murrah Building. All the cameras "mysteriously malfunctioned" and "stopped recording" at the precise moment he was allegedly driving by them.

I thought this was bullshit when I first heard it, but a lawyer named Jesse Trentadue subpoenaed this nonexistent footage in his civil case against the feds for their alleged murder of his brother Kenny.

Jesse's brother Kenneth Trentadue was picked up crossing into California from Mexico and moved to a federal prison holding facility in Oklahoma City to await trial on a parole violation. While there, he was reportedly beaten to death and framed up for a "suicide". Story goes the feds mistook him for the infamous "John Doe #2" and were beating on him trying to get him to admit he was Richard Lee Guthrie of the ARA, or something. It was a big cover up.

Another guy who got "Suicided".

Please tell me this "camera malfunction" thing is a joke. It has to be. It's like they are trying to make this look as suspicious as possible or accidentally read a memo on how to do this sort of stuff written in 1992.
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Old August 10, 2019, 21:37   #63
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I m glad the name of Bill Richardson came up. He ran New Mexico like a mafia don & the hispanics the kissed his ass like it was sugar coated. Maybe its payback for that pinche pendajo
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The 'taint is already on a number of high profile people.

The civil suits will continue with the possibility of 'discovery', as well as more victims coming forward and outing even more of them.

Plus there is the hope that the evidence already collected leads to everyone of the guilty being found out.

I hope that everyone involved in this mess burns, in this lifetime and in full view of the public eye.
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I saw a clip this morning where Epstein was mic'd up at some deposition that had been filmed. The attorney asked him if he had "an egg-shaped penis". He got up, took off the mic, and walked out.
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*eta, what I meant was JHFC!
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Well, if AG Barr really is 'appalled' this happened, he's been living under a rock since the Klintons were in Arkansas. Did he really not see this event coming?!?!?
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Epstein dying while locked up makes the US look like a corrupt, third world, banana republic

You would expect this from any other country.
How many world leaders lost a bit of respect for the US because of this? You can say world leaders already had no respect for the US but it's not accurate. Due to political pressure they'll say such things but rarely do they believe it.
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My son worked in the nyc state lock up, a carbon copy right next door to this fed lock up.
He said suicides happened all the time, even under 'watch', which as he described is pretty much a joke and most time done by low risk prisioners.
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My son worked in the nyc state lock up, a carbon copy right next door to this fed lock up.
He said suicides happened all the time, even under 'watch', which as he described is pretty much a joke and most time done by low risk prisioners.
yeah, how many suicides had "help"?
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How hard would it be and how many involved to fake a suicide death in a jail?

Anyone here have first person knowledge and proof that he is dead?

Just sayin'.

It's a bummer when you have lost all trust in the MSM and .gov.
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yeah, how many suicides had "help"?
Exacly 17.4% of the time,,,,,

All I know about it is what he said, that it happens all the time.

They tie their jump suit or anything around their neck, twist it a few times, hook it to anything available and simply sit down. After a minute or two they black out and if not found quickly, their history.
My son said he's seen it happen in the time it takes for a piss break.
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Just another act on the stage of Clownworld. Really, has this stuff not gotten predictable to everyone yet? They don’t even have to bother at attempting subtlety. I bet they could’ve literally dressed up in Grim Reaper costumes and just walked right in and done it. Then hopped in a waiting limousine. They really have to be laughing at the public by now.
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Just another act on the stage of Clownworld. Really, has this stuff not gotten predictable to everyone yet? They don’t even have to bother at attempting subtlety. I bet they could’ve literally dressed up in Grim Reaper costumes and just walked right in and done it. Then hopped in a waiting limousine. They really have to be laughing at the public by now.
They are. And have been for decades. Why, what's the public gonna do about it, vote for someone else? Vote third party, yep, that'll scare the living bejesus right out of 'em. Make 'em straighten up and fly right, that will. Yep, that's the ticket sure as shootin ...
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They are. And have been for decades. Why, what's the public gonna do about it, vote for someone else? Vote third party, yep, that'll scare the living bejesus right out of 'em. Make 'em straighten up and fly right, that will. Yep, that's the ticket sure as shootin ...
Yeah Bubby, that is why we should just keep voting for more of the same.

Ya know, if a 3rd party was actually able to get into power, they might just gut the R and D criminal organization.

It isn't like there are lots of crimes and lots of proof that never gets investigated.




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Epstein dying while locked up makes the US look like a corrupt, third world, banana republic
The US is plenty corrupt and has been for a long time. Everyone who has been paying attention knows it.



Epstein had gobs of evidence against him in Florida and the feds swept in under the rug, bullshitted his victims that they were still pursuing him when he had long been given a pass.
Plenty of reporters sniffed out the story and it was quickly killed by their editors and higher ups.

He continued doing what he did in NYC and EVERYONE knew what he was doing.
The NYC police, the state, the feds, the press.

But none was odder than the day I was invited to lunch in New York City with the by now notorious figure Jeffrey Epstein. The golden boy of Manhattan and Palm Beach society now sits in a grim jail cell accused of having sex with underage girls. He’s been doing this in plain view since the early 1990’s but, until recently, he seemed bullet-proof.

Soon after I walked into the entrance of Epstein’s mansion on E 71st Street, said to be the city’s largest private home, a butler asked me, ‘would you like an intimate massage, sir, by a pretty young girl?’ This offer seemed so out of place and weird to me that I swiftly declined.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/07/...n-working-for/

Casually offering virtually anyone who entered the doorway a intimate massage with a young girl...... yet no one knew.

Epstein has a friendly state sponsor, who had enough pull to kill the crime the 1st time and kill Epstein in a federal prison.



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The US is plenty corrupt and has been for a long time. Everyone who has been paying attention knows it.

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Epstein has a friendly state sponsor, who had enough pull to kill the crime the 1st time and kill Epstein in a federal prison.
*cough* Izzitreal *cough* Ghislane Maxwell's father *cough* M0S$@d *cough-cough*... cui bono?... kosher nostra
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The FBI raid is another organization that makes the US look like a corrupt, third world, banana republic.

What police organization on the planet would conduct a raid for evidence 1 month after an arrest? Epstein was arrested on July 6 but the raid was done when?


A legitimate question. How long after Epstein's arrest do you think it took his associates to start scrubbing records. 24 hrs, maybe 72 hrs?

The FBI not only waited 1 month after his arrest, they waited until after he was dead.
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What police organization on the planet would conduct a raid for evidence 1 month after an arrest? Epstein was arrested on July 6 but the raid was done when?


A legitimate question. How long after Epstein's arrest do you think it took his associates to start scrubbing records. 24 hrs, maybe 72 hrs?

The FBI not only waited 1 month after his arrest, they waited until after he was dead.
The tentacles and entrenchment are so long and deep, it takes time to retract, destroy and bury.
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Yeah Bubby, that is why we should just keep voting for more of the same.

Ya know, if a 3rd party was actually able to get into power, they might just gut the R and D criminal organization.

It isn't like there are lots of crimes and lots of proof that never gets investigated.

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Third party IS more of the same dumbass .... don't you get it yet?
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Third party IS more of the same dumbass .... don't you get it yet?
You base that on what?
No 3rd party candidate has been elected to the house or senate, let alone the pres in recent history.

Yet you know they would be more of the same.


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The FBI raid is another organization that makes the US look like a corrupt, third world, banana republic.

What police organization on the planet would conduct a raid for evidence 1 month after an arrest? Epstein was arrested on July 6 but the raid was done when?


A legitimate question. How long after Epstein's arrest do you think it took his associates to start scrubbing records. 24 hrs, maybe 72 hrs?

The FBI not only waited 1 month after his arrest, they waited until after he was dead.

Well you pretty much spelled it out.
The corruption runs very deep.

It is more of a mystery why anyone would have any faith in our govt.



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You base that on what?
No 3rd party candidate has been elected to the house or senate, let alone the pres in recent history.

Yet you know they would be more of the same.


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... precisely, despite the existence of 3rd parties for the entire history of this republic. Do ya get it yet?
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... precisely, despite the existence of 3rd parties for the entire history of this republic. Do ya get it yet?

Of course I get it, you want R/D criminal organization to continue running the nation...…. right into the shitter.




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Of course I get it, you want R/D criminal organization to continue running the nation...…. right into the shitter.

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Uh, no. It's more like play the same game, expect the same result. You do not seem to get it at all.
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Uh, no. It's more like play the same game, expect the same result. You do not seem to get it at all.
Yea G-ds bubba

You do understand when Lincoln was elected the Republicans were basically a third party right ?

It can be done again and far easier than it happened in the second half of the damn 1850s
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Yea G-ds bubba

You do understand when Lincoln was elected the Republicans were basically a third party right ?

It can be done again and far easier than it happened in the second half of the damn 1850s
(sigh) yes, I do know that.

How did that 'Lincoln' thing work out for ya? Less government and all that?
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(sigh) yes, I do know that.

How did that 'Lincoln' thing work out for ya? Less government and all that?
hell I don't enjoy smacking folks with the dead fish bubs but this notion we the people have only two choices is bullshit

As I have many times previously noted Republicans started out as Americas version of 19th century European Communism embracing much of Marx and Das Kapital
by the late 1850s outside elements co-opted that new party to fold in former Whigs & other elements

My opinion today we can easily tear the soul out of the two party system via social media
a good third of America either doesn't vote or is Independent
actually half the nation don't bother to vote

We saw this here in MN years ago
well all the pundits ignored Ventura
folks like myself mobilized fags, dopers, etc
got tens of thousands non voters to vote and we won
we sweeped the ballots bubs and really no one saw that surge coming

Okay, half the nation don't vote
we need to provide reason to do so

fukkin' polls are bogus
used to be in that industry bubs
it boils down to how we phrased questions and when we called
past that the area we contacted

some things
how many run land lines today
polls are published land line based

further
If I set calling times between 9 to 5 I get housewives, generally few men

Region too, most polling is targeted to urban/suburban areas

don't get me started on questions, I was a script writer
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hell I don't enjoy smacking folks with the dead fish bubs but this notion we the people have only two choices is bullshit ...
That was not the notion son. It doesn't matter how many choices you have if you wind up with the same policy, the whole point of this alleged 'third party' thing is to change POLICY. Your example of Lincoln actually proves my freaking point. Cripes, even J is smart enough not to step on that land mine ...

And if POLICY is the objective it doesn't matter how many paths there are if they all lead to the same place, sheesh. You jokers are like a bunch of high schoolers, rooting for your team. Knowing nothing and caring less about what the game actually is, as long as your side 'wins'.

Sure. More that two choices, got it. You want that shit sandwich with ketchup, mustard,mayo or would you rather just use a knife and fork?
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"Fast action", like this delay, allows a good clean up of incriminating evidence by the Clinton Foundation.

No one is fooled by this insanity.

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And if POLICY is the objective it doesn't matter how many paths there are if they all lead to the same place, sheesh. You jokers are like a bunch of high schoolers, rooting for your team. Knowing nothing and caring less about what the game actually is, as long as your side 'wins'.
Only they are not the same polices.


Since the NL and 5 star parties were elected in Italy, polices such as immigration have changed radically.
And when NL gains even more power as they will shortly there will be even more radical changes to policy.

When in the past did the Italian Navy block immigration taxi ships to port?
When did the captains of those vessels get arrested in the past?
NL's Salvini,, We have gone from 76,858 landings in 2017 to 2,544 this year (midway through 2019).”

“I want to continue positive trend,” he said.



Of course, you will deny that reducing illegal landings substantially is a change.



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That was not the notion son. It doesn't matter how many choices you have if you wind up with the same policy, the whole point of this alleged 'third party' thing is to change POLICY. Your example of Lincoln actually proves my freaking point. Cripes, even J is smart enough not to step on that land mine ...

And if POLICY is the objective it doesn't matter how many paths there are if they all lead to the same place, sheesh. You jokers are like a bunch of high schoolers, rooting for your team. Knowing nothing and caring less about what the game actually is, as long as your side 'wins'.

Sure. More that two choices, got it. You want that shit sandwich with ketchup, mustard,mayo or would you rather just use a knife and fork?
"son" ???

look asshat you are not my dad or my Yoda
I don't apply those terms dickbag
I'm hardly your "son" in any way shape or form moron

your answer seems to be saying fukk it all
just vote Republican and pray for the best outcome
people who fukk the public as badly as any democrat

but that's all okay with you isn't it dickbag
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just vote Republican and pray for the best outcome
people who fukk the public as badly as any democrat


but that's all okay with you isn't it dickbag
More than OK, it is what Bubba wants.
All his protests otherwise are simply a distraction.



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