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Black Blade November 13, 2019 21:38

CIVIL WAR 2 in America - WHO WOULD WIN? In-Depth Analysis
 
CIVIL WAR 2 in America - WHO WOULD WIN? In-Depth Analysis

https://youtu.be/aJh7Ye1Qvc8

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Interesting analysis ...

def90 November 13, 2019 23:31

51 minutes? So who wins?

I have a feeling CW2 would look nothing like a “war” and would look more like the Balkans with rogue groups of people pulling their neighbors out of their homes in the middle of the night and their bodies found in shallow graves weeks later.

yellowhand November 13, 2019 23:56

WHO WOULD WIN?

The side that can shoot,,,move,,, and communicate better than the other side.:wink:

Jarhead504 November 14, 2019 08:46

I guarantee that there will be HUGH SURPRISES on ALL sides of the shooting. From what I've been reading over the last 40 + years on this, it appears that EVERYONE in the USA underestimates their future adversaries.

The (3) biggest ones will be:
1) Thirst
2) Hunger
3) Disease

Jarhead

Riversidesports November 14, 2019 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarhead504 (Post 4806862)
I guarantee that there will be HUGH SURPRISES on ALL sides of the shooting. From what I've been reading over the last 40 + years on this, it appears that EVERYONE in the USA underestimates their future adversaries.

The (3) biggest ones will be:
1) Thirst
2) Hunger
3) Disease

Jarhead

I'd debate that one just slightly Jarhead
An even greater one than thirst will be simple exposure
The grid goes down even if you run a LP furnace you have no heat to the home
no running water, hot or cold

Thing is a good half the Nation or more needs heating part of the year
other times we are talking cooling. Look how many die during heat waves

I'm reasonably well set myself, most are not even here locally

yellowhand November 14, 2019 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarhead504 (Post 4806862)
I guarantee that there will be HUGH SURPRISES on ALL sides of the shooting. From what I've been reading over the last 40 + years on this, it appears that EVERYONE in the USA underestimates their future adversaries.

The (3) biggest ones will be:
1) Thirst
2) Hunger
3) Disease

Jarhead

Them be the big three truly bad ass adversaries,,thats for sure...........

Show me the man that has faced starvation,,,and I'll show you a man that knows the true value of a can of beans..............

Wil-C November 14, 2019 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarhead504 (Post 4806862)
I guarantee that there will be HUGH SURPRISES on ALL sides of the shooting. From what I've been reading over the last 40 + years on this, it appears that EVERYONE in the USA underestimates their future adversaries.

The (3) biggest ones will be:
1) Thirst
2) Hunger
3) Disease

Jarhead

concur:

any group of people who cannot essentially be self-sufficient will not win such a conflict. Dont have the ability to handle the basic daily needs?
Not going to win, it's a major reason the south lost its war for freedom.

Only part of that not in there which should be in there is who wins the culture war which preceded the armed portion of the civil war. Another major factor in who will win.

Archilochus November 14, 2019 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by def90 (Post 4806816)
So who wins?

I can say with confidence - nobody wins this one. We'll all get a share in being the losers.

pistolero1911 November 14, 2019 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by def90 (Post 4806816)
So who wins?

The zombies win as they are the mindless horde.

Bubacus November 15, 2019 06:31

Zero sum game....politicians will hide and wait out the chaos while making plans for what comes next. Folks with chronic disease wont get meds, the mentally ill and substance abusers will go nuts and burn out. Looting, violence, disease, hunger will take it's toll after a few months and the white flags will go up everywhere.

Movies like the Purge make it look like fun and games....nothing worse than seeing friends and family die from simple infections from wounds that could have been cured in the ER during peace time.

2barearms November 15, 2019 13:11

Short answer is there are no winners. All the infrastructure is destroyed by both sides and the government in a bid to make one side suffer more than the other.
The folks that live in rural areas are better equipped to handle a crisis of utilities
than most urban denizens. Water Wells, generators, diesel and propane etc all make for short term survival.

FIANNAFAL November 15, 2019 15:30

I believe it will be more of a insurrection than a civil war. The lack of political leadership and lack of unity on all sides will leave it in local violence.
El Salvador is a better example of what we face. There conflict was made up of small opposition groups that latter consolidated around the FMLN.

Bawana jim November 15, 2019 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2barearms (Post 4807356)
Short answer is there are no winners. All the infrastructure is destroyed by both sides and the government in a bid to make one side suffer more than the other.
The folks that live in rural areas are better equipped to handle a crisis of utilities
than most urban denizens. Water Wells, generators, diesel and propane etc all make for short term survival.

:biggrin: howdy.... was there a winner in the last civil war, what were they fighting for? What will be the reason to fight the next one?

Tip_drill November 15, 2019 20:18

Well , for as impotent as Trump has been we all owe it to him for exposing the United Stated federal government that you and i fund with our tax dollars as the filthy dirty theft, bribery, kickback and selling their votes to the highest bidder graft vehicle for our elected "representatives" to fund their and their families extravagant lifestyles that it really is...And the weaponized federal government alphabet gestapo's (I include the MSM in this as well) as their murder INCORPORATED to murder, destroy and discredit any outside threat to this corruption....Hillary Clinton, the Biden crime family, Pelosi, Fienstien, Obama, Comey etc etc etc.....Net worths are all the proof of this that you need.

Im glad that Trump at least kept that promise, although i suspect it was purely by mistake.

xerzes November 16, 2019 03:54

As soon as they is a Civil war in the US. our enemies will be allies and start nuking us, This is my fear.

frankxtc November 16, 2019 08:39

I would expect the results of any civil disturbance now, to be the same as any others in the past.
Our government troops will put it down. Again.
Bonus Army
Waco
Ruby Ridge
Kent State
etc……
Those with power will do whatever is necessary to keep it.
Not just here and now, all over the world, through recorded history.

0302 November 16, 2019 12:14

Frankxtc gots it. D卐M☭CRATS have destroyed free speech & 2nd amend, the police surveillance state is a reality, everyone here is a dinosaur, waiting for the rats to feast upon.

yellowhand November 16, 2019 12:34

:rofl:

C2A1 November 16, 2019 13:02

This channel "Mark my Words" is only a year old and has gotten traction. I'm not sure if by accident or design, this civil war thing is being "brought up" more and more. That being said, there is a group that is fighting back using the same tactics as the "Justice Demo rats". This group is mentioned in Mark my Words video on the internal fight on the conservative side. Here, they physically meet, the major thrust is the use of the new AI systems to map peoples responses to certain words, appearences etc. and design a political action accordingly. The last one profiled Hispanic grandmothers and that groups response to AOC type politics. Kind of an advanced hearts and mind strategy. They have funding, so we will see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAU1dOuk-OQ

Bawana jim November 16, 2019 13:29

The last civil war was the Blue and the Grey fighting because the Grey wanted to divide the nation. Folks in the South wanted to go their own way and took up their guns to fight against Northern Tyranny. Clearly divided battle lines and both side knew what they were fighting for and winning determined which direction the country would go.

Today are the lines clearly defined ? What will winning a civil war look like for either side? My own opinion is that a civil war will have to have a lot more definition than just the bs folks pander today. It won't happen until sides are clearly defined and full of hate to kill their neighbors. Yet the government is watching and will red flag anyone who looks like they will go to battle.

Odds are the bs about civil war is just to spy on the public, get some post to use to cancel the person when they want to iN the future. At best all we will ever see are riots and not civil war in my opinion.

yellowhand November 16, 2019 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by C2A1 (Post 4807737)
This channel "Mark my Words" is only a year old and has gotten traction. I'm not sure if by accident or design, this civil war thing is being "brought up" more and more. That being said, there is a group that is fighting back using the same tactics as the "Justice Demo rats". This group is mentioned in Mark my Words video on the internal fight on the conservative side. Here, they physically meet, the major thrust is the use of the new AI systems to map peoples responses to certain words, appearences etc. and design a political action accordingly. The last one profiled Hispanic grandmothers and that groups response to AOC type politics. Kind of an advanced hearts and mind strategy. They have funding, so we will see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAU1dOuk-OQ

I would not get excited about this,,,until one small state gets a Governor and a lock on their statehouse,,having run on a platform that runs counter to the federal governor on all of the major issues,,,where both the newly elected Governor and state house politicians did not back off on the question of secession.

The Feds will see this as a direct threat to their non sense,,,then over react,,which they always do,,,then events,,as they always do,,will spiral out of every ones control.

One small state could jump start a major actual war,,,,with people flooding into that state when things kick off there.

Barring a state declaring their independence,,,,not much hope of a civil war jump starting anywhere.

Wild card,,,,,some other major triggering event,,,,,police in some deep blue state gunning down hundreds of protestors,,,people protesting the socialist in charge,,etc.

Going to take something huge to kick start a large insurrection.

Bawana jim November 16, 2019 14:23

Just opinion again but to get a big picture you really have to understand hate and who the haters are. Would the elite in this country like to see the middle class kill each other off? Its faster than managed decline.:wink:

7.62FMJ November 17, 2019 16:45

Over 70% of non Europeans vote left. Government importation of immigrants since 1980 has been around 90% non European. This is not by accident.


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C2A1 November 17, 2019 17:57

An alternative discussion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN9O0o4zw8o

Jarhead504 November 17, 2019 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by xerzes (Post 4807618)
As soon as they is a Civil war in the US. our enemies will be allies and start nuking us, This is my fear.

That is a very real possibility. I am sure many of our international enemies had and will have discussed this.

Jarhead

yellowhand November 17, 2019 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by C2A1 (Post 4808280)

4 or 5 thousand "individuals"",,,attacking the grids,,,transport and electrical,,,would prove interesting,,,as the government knee jerked and went after everyone,,,,to keep everyone "safe".

A state going secession route,,,or some other major triggering event,,barring that,,,not much chance of any major conflict arising here.

Bawana jim November 17, 2019 18:39

I don't know how the rest of you see the end result of a civil war so let me ask, who will fight it and who will be the real winners to kill off the middle class and destroy the constitution?


Who is it that gets us to hate so much that we are willing to kill our neighbors?

If you hate the left then who is telling you what to hate about them?

If you hate the right then who is telling you why you should hate them?

Once the elite have you kill your neighbors and turn America to a turd world country will the elite keep the hate going for a hundred years like the last civil war?

Just wondering if you guys think it out, if you know where the hate comes from and how they use it against us?

Or you can go on with your war fantasies as usual :rofl:

yellowhand November 17, 2019 18:51

People don;t fight civil wars within their own countries for politicians,,,they fight for themselves,,,banding together with other like minded individuals for a shared goal,,,freedom.

Politicians as a given,,,do not care for free people,,,that are armed, and thinking for themselves.

Soooooooooooooooooo,,,,,no one fights a civil war for or because of politicians.

2barearms November 17, 2019 20:57

The left has no tact or softness in its approach to legislation....they always use the biggest hammer. Just look at this wild eyed jack ass Schiff and his cronies.
So at the moment they gain control of the House, Senate and the White House and most state governments they will ram their entire agenda up your ass....
It will not be climate change either it will be major gun control legislation. No one will be able to stop them as the Supreme Court has already signaled a turn to the left. This could be the spark that sets the fire.....

Bawana jim November 17, 2019 20:58

Politicians are starting the civil war so its obvious the war will be because of them. Folks don't kill their neighbors without a serious hate fed to them and the elite with the media are pumping hate like crazy.

Bawana jim November 17, 2019 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2barearms (Post 4808402)
The left has no tact or softness in its approach to legislation....they always use the biggest hammer. Just look at this wild eyed jack ass Schiff and his cronies.
So at the moment they gain control of the House, Senate and the White House and most state governments they will ram their entire agenda up your ass....
It will not be climate change either it will be major gun control legislation. No one will be able to stop them as the Supreme Court has already signaled a turn to the left. This could be the spark that sets the fire.....

I hope I don't make this too long to read but what drives the left is hate. They hate everyone including themselves. They hate you so bad they dream up ways to ruin your life and put you in poverty. One way is Climate Change. The left dreamed that up to rob you of trillions while they say they are saving the world for future generations, if you give them the power.

Look they have killed 67 million of the future generations with abortion so do you really think it's for the future?

The left sees themselves as the elite of the world and hate you because you just don't give them the power they want. They lie to everyone to get power but use it to grandiose their own lifestyle. How is it that a generation of black people lived in poverty under the left when in just three years Trump raised black employment to the highest in history.

So to not drone on just study the left and look at the hate they have for us. Once you undrstand the haters and how they divide us then you can see a civil war is what they want. After you have killed 67 million Americans a civil war is a piece of cake for them.

meltblown November 17, 2019 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bawana jim (Post 4808413)
I hope I don't make this too long to read but what drives the left is hate. They hate everyone including themselves. They hate you so bad they dream up ways to ruin your life and put you in poverty. One way is Climate Change. The left dreamed that up to rob you of trillions while they say they are saving the world for future generations, if you give them the power.

Look they have killed 67 million of the future generations with abortion so do you really think it's for the future?

The left sees themselves as the elite of the world and hate you because you just don't give them the power they want. They lie to everyone to get power but use it to grandiose their own lifestyle. How is it that a generation of black people lived in poverty under the left when in just three years Trump raised black employment to the highest in history.

So to not drone on just study the left and look at the hate they have for us. Once you undrstand the haters and how they divide us then you can see a civil war is what they want. After you have killed 67 million Americans a civil war is a piece of cake for them.

Dunno. Nobody put a gun to anyone's head and said get an abortion. Just because some ethnicities use it as birth control amazes me. But so does a chicken laying an egg.

Bawana jim November 17, 2019 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by meltblown (Post 4808418)
Dunno. Nobody put a gun to anyone's head and said get an abortion. Just because some ethnicities use it as birth control amazes me. But so does a chicken laying an egg.

I don't know why people allow the government to kill their own kids but they do. Notice it's the leftist full of hate that are pro killing the kids.

Castro November 18, 2019 00:12

CW2 in the US would be like a remake of this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4

Chester Nimitz November 18, 2019 01:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarhead504 (Post 4806862)
I guarantee that there will be HUGH SURPRISES on ALL sides of the shooting. From what I've been reading over the last 40 + years on this, it appears that EVERYONE in the USA underestimates their future adversaries.

The (3) biggest ones will be:
1) Thirst
2) Hunger
3) Disease

Jarhead

Correct. And for rougly 1/2 of the American population the unavailability of their SSRI medication.


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