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justashooter January 13, 2020 15:03

the madness in VA: updated summary on bills introduced
 
a discussion on the bill numbers and contents (preponderence of evidence and napoleanic standard in red flags, etc):
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Whydah January 13, 2020 19:08

Tyranny by any other name is still tyranny!

G1user January 13, 2020 23:38

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UBC mandatory de facto registration/confiscation scheme

RFL no due process confiscation scheme

felony for more than 1 handgun a month

localities can arbitrarily declare gunfreezone deathtraps, ban all firearms --including cap n ball/BP from any "event" -- "event" being defined as whatever/whenever they say it is, this deletes virginia state license to carry, and of course hijacking reciprocity with other states.



they are still working on the bills felonizing standard capacity magazines,
and also still working on bill felonizing newly (re)defined "assault firearms" the definition of which of course means whatever they decide it to mean to felonize who ever and whatever they want to get their way.

G1user January 13, 2020 23:52

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Originally Posted by Whydah (Post 4828977)
Tyranny by any other name is still tyranny!

yes, whereas,



Constitution of Virginia
Article I. Bill of Rights
Section 13. Militia; standing armies; military subordinate to civil power

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.



note the state is the subject of article 1.S13 , explicitly establishing the legal test for lawful limitation on authorized lawful public power as subject to "shall not be infringed",

also note the right of the people to keep and bear arms is not subject to the state, to the highest legal standard, far above "strict scrutiny" or "intermediate scrutiny" fjuckery.

that is to say, the donks ain't got legal authority, cuz no such authority exists, and never has.


you virginians might consider that point when you pen your appeals for redress of grievance.

Whydah January 14, 2020 08:41

When the Founders drafted, then voted to accept, the Constitution, it was done so knowing that the Constitution document provided the framework, blueprint if you will, of how the new government was organized and the authorities assigned to each component. A central piece was the implementation of divisions, each separate but fully equal, one compared to another. The three separate branches of government served the Republic well. No one branch could bully the others to impose a partisan agenda on those whom they were there to serve - We the People. The Legislative branch, Congress, was also divided into two houses, the House and the Senate in such a way that one rode herd over the other to prevent abuses of authority. It was the design that there be a contest of ideas where proposed legislation could be dissected, exposed, taken apart piece by piece, and examined completely to purposefully slow down the political process, often to stall it completely, so that the results were likely the best for the Republic and those residing in it. Regardless of political leanings, the contestants shared a common heritage, common morels, and most understood that they were there to represent the people's wishes.

That has now all changed as was plainly evident yesterday in the Senate committee hearings in Richmond, Va.. On a strict party line vote, 9 to 5, Socialists rammed several unconstitutional gun proposals through committee and on to the full senate for final vote. What this means to me, a citizen of Virginia, is that I am now disenfranchised politically in my own state because my voice, even if heard, is totally ignored by the socialist cabal that no longer represents the citizen, but does the bidding of out of state billionaires, radical special interest groups, and anyone else who can buy or extort votes to push their agenda. Its wasn't enough to shred the flag our ancestors once bled for, to tear down our statues to honorable men, or to destroy our heritage. Now in their final coup de tat they intend to make us totally submissive to their will using the threat of both hardship and violence against us if we do not comply.

Did our forefathers face any more sever threat from King George? I don't think they did. The evolving circumstances We the People are finding ourselves, not just in Virginia but all over, are not only serious in nature, they are becoming momentous. How we conduct ourselves and how we respond to this wave of tyranny will be the deciding factor that determines our fate - slave or free.

G1user January 14, 2020 09:18

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Originally Posted by Whydah (Post 4829116)
... How we conduct ourselves and how we respond to this wave of tyranny will be the deciding factor that determines our fate - slave or free.

yep. and that response is why our bill of rights says what it says.

you are virginians, so act like it, because you can, and because you must.


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