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Shoots High
June 09, 2010, 17:16
I like war porn. I get my daily dose on Weasel Zippers. It's got me wondering though, how many bad guys do we kill in a months time in Afghanistan or Iraq. I once heard Limbaugh say that the numbers were around 2 or 3 thousand. Does anyone know? (other than not enough)

Another thing I've been wondering about is, in the War Porn videos, how far away from the target is the helicopter gunships? Allah's little helpers on the ground seem oblivious that they are about to get their virgins, which makes me think that the choppers are out of the range of hearing them. Anyone know?

pns112500
June 09, 2010, 19:17
I dont think our Vets would call it "War Porn". This word offends me.

Topbanana
June 09, 2010, 19:20
I'm not a vet, but I agree with Penis.

Chvelle
June 09, 2010, 19:21
Why would you watch it on the 'net, when you can join and get the sights, smells and sounds in stereo.

Shoots High
June 09, 2010, 19:28
Oh boy, here we go again.

GW870
June 09, 2010, 20:16
Sorry, powderhead. I'm for killing ever one of the sons-a-bitches
but watching them fly apart ain't high on my list for entertainment.

GW

homelandprotector
June 09, 2010, 20:31
Gota love those cluster bombs......

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vmtz
June 09, 2010, 22:22
Originally posted by powderhead
I like war porn. I get my daily dose on Weasel Zippers. It's got me wondering though, how many bad guys do we kill in a months time in Afghanistan or Iraq. I once heard Limbaugh say that the numbers were around 2 or 3 thousand. Does anyone know? (other than not enough)

Another thing I've been wondering about is, in the War Porn videos, how far away from the target is the helicopter gunships? Allah's little helpers on the ground seem oblivious that they are about to get their virgins, which makes me think that the choppers are out of the range of hearing them. Anyone know?

Killing is a dirty nasty business. Getting off on it is sick.

I have seen enough people die, hope you are lucky enough never to see it.

Vince

Cava3r4
June 09, 2010, 23:30
Killing is a dirty nasty business. Getting off on it is sick. I have seen enough people die, hope you are lucky enough never to see it. Vince

I have to agree with Vince on this one! It is NO fun when you are "in the $hit" and it is even LESS fun when the VA gives you the "hot beef injection" up your a$$ for about 40 years!!! Been there.... done that!
Bob

308/223shooter
June 10, 2010, 00:14
I also agree with Vince on this one. Combat is not fun. It sucks big time. Sure, at first it's a major rush and all, and knowing you came through the first time OK is really cool. But the first time you blow someone elses kid away before he does you, it suddenly ain't so bloody cool anymore.
I've seen guys start to "get off" on hunting the enemy, they never seem to get right after comming home. Makes me wonder what it is that makes 'em cross that fine line between warrior and killer.
I've listened to other Vets talk about there "kills" like it was a fuggin' ball game, and wonder how they deal with the ghosts that haunt them for the rest of their lives.
I truely hope we aren't creating an entire generation of PTSD time bombs with this conflict.

gauraprema
June 10, 2010, 07:24
After bieng woken up at 0400 and told to get my rifle and bdus on by my step dad and made to be at the ready because they are comming we just cant let them through when I was only 12 is a sure sign that it is not friggin porn.Ive never been in a war but have been trying to evacuate people while smells of of there familys were fresh in the air.I may not have got to see all the fighting but the remnants were not pretty.And those sights showing people are just bad taste.Granfather died in ww2 father was in korea step father was in vietnam all uncles were in vietnam,nearly killed my granmother.Family has had enough of this war that never seems to end.

WarriorPoet
June 10, 2010, 07:45
Me:
-Army brat
-never served in the armed forces
-have not seen combat in-person
-would not want to be in combat (and who really does, anyway?)
-would not want to waste someone (other than in self-defense)
-pics of wasted people are generally sad
-pics of torn up bodies are gruesome


That being said.......

Watching the application of firepower to defeat bad guys IS a thrill. It's a feeling of, "we're winning!" (at least at the moment the vid was taken).

It's a feeling of security - "those badguys won't hurt any other U.S./NATO troops or torment innocent civilians"

It's also a, "here's what we're bringin' to the party, mo-fo's - so back off!"


It's just a digital version of WW1 and WW2 morale boosting posters (from all sides, both Allied and Axis) of "our guys" crushing "those guys".

What was "Victory at Sea" but a, "Here's us, kicking a** and taking numbers" documentary. Plenty of guys getting shot at, shot down, blown up and burned as I recall.

You can take that back to Egyptian temples, the Bayeux tapestry artwork, etc. throughout time. Everyone likes seeing images of enemies being trampled by chariots, or baddies taking arrows to the noggin, etc.


The observation I'm making is that it's human nature to revel in victory and to want to see those images. Positive feedback is positive feedback.


Soldiers (however) know better - from firsthand experience - that there isn't all that much to revel in, other than surviving the ordeal. I haven't met a vet yet (including my dad, granddad, and great uncle) who ever wanted to say more than a handful of words of what they saw.


My .02 cents.

-WP

martin35
June 10, 2010, 08:36
Being inured of or accustomed to man's inhumanity to man is a desirable attribute in a combat zone,,, taking pleasure from it in a normal society is abnormal.
Some can find themselves in killing, kill or being killed can be a simplistic way of life to find a satisfaction in destroying a enemy and becoming immune to the mutilation and demise of comrades that is a sadness when not a necessity of war and a burden one is not meant to carry,,, be slow to relish war but once joined be ruthless or be prepared to perish.

pns112500
June 10, 2010, 20:15
Originally posted by martin35
Being inured of or accustomed to man's inhumanity to man is a desirable attribute in a combat zone,,, taking pleasure from it in a normal society is abnormal.
Some can find themselves in killing, kill or being killed can be a simplistic way of life to find a satisfaction in destroying a enemy and becoming immune to the mutilation and demise of comrades that is a sadness when not a necessity of war and a burden one is not meant to carry,,, be slow to relish war but once joined be ruthless or be prepared to perish.


Martin, Are these your words, Or are you quoting someone??

harleypower69
June 10, 2010, 22:14
To the OP; it is not a movie or video game. Seek some help.

mongoose
June 11, 2010, 13:15
ABOVE ALL ELSE, THE SOLDIER PRAYS FOR PEACE FOR HE/SHE MUST ENDURE THE HORRORS OF WAR!