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9thmoon
April 10, 2006, 18:10
Huge immigration-support march in Seattle today. Things downtown are totally hosed. News reports say "thousands" are marching - est 4,000 - 5,000. The AP reports "hundreds of thousands" across the country marching today.
Internet buddy in Phoenix reports helicopters all over and "something on fire out on the west side".

Starting to feel like I'm living in the 60's, Round 2.

CZ-75a
April 10, 2006, 18:15
Were it the 60s here, we'd have the Klan, fire hoses and police dogs out in full force. I don't think our mexicans want to give them an excuse, so there are maybe a thousand marching and nothing that I'd notice if I didn't watch the news.

9thmoon
April 10, 2006, 18:17
Originally posted by CZ-75a
Were it the 60s here, we'd have the Klan, fire hoses and police dogs out in full force. I don't think our mexicans want to give them an excuse, so there are maybe a thousand marching and nothing that I'd notice if I didn't watch the news.

I'm just guessing, since this is Seattle, that most of the folks marching in support of illegal immigrants aren't immigrants themselves.

CZ-75a
April 10, 2006, 18:27
Originally posted by 9thmoon


I'm just guessing, since this is Seattle, that most of the folks marching in support of illegal immigrants aren't immigrants themselves.

Not as many bleeding hearts here (but plenty of rednecks and brothas, neither of which want mexicans to take their jobs).

azpatriot
April 10, 2006, 18:41
They are currently estimating here in Phoenix around 125,000+, all they are accomplishing is pissing off the American citizens. Iíve seen the news helicopters flying around. Donít know whatís on fire maybe itíll be on the news but I doubt it.

Iím out in Glendale how about anyone else?

doktor_ecchs
April 10, 2006, 18:46
They know better...:wink:

as ever,
Dr. X :fal:

Indycar
April 10, 2006, 19:07
10 - 20k in Indianapolis. Very well behaved, no problems so far (as long as the TV cameras are on them). Haven't seen a Mexican flag in the coverage I've seen. Lots of stars and bars though!

Deucer01
April 10, 2006, 19:31
Latest estimate is 200K in Phoenix. Criminals demanding their rights!!! And they keep saying they're not criminals??? Maybe "criminal" has a different definition in Spanish.

masman
April 10, 2006, 19:36
nothing here in vermont

crash65
April 10, 2006, 19:43
Originally posted by Deucer01
Latest estimate is 200K in Phoenix. Criminals demanding their rights!!! And they keep saying they're not criminals??? Maybe "criminal" has a different definition in Spanish.

Big, bad criminals.

http://a.im.craigslist.org/9S/hD/R13qYbJlRb9voG5tAmkrAJbSykrY.jpg

Flamehead
April 10, 2006, 20:09
The whole situation is amazing to watch. Illegal mexican immigrants protesting in American cities. Amazing.

DABTL
April 10, 2006, 20:17
Only 500,000 or so in Dallas.

My guess is 75% legals. Mostly Democrats, now! :rofl:

Watch the Republicans how!

STGThndr
April 10, 2006, 21:05
No protesters in our little town.
Who cares if they march? Screw em. Round them up and deport them- better yet put them to work diggin a big ditch and puttin up a big fence. Then let em walk home.

whirlibird
April 10, 2006, 21:41
So many illegals, so little pepper spray.

ratas calientes
April 10, 2006, 21:54
I have a job, so I went to work. http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif

Temp
April 10, 2006, 22:11
There were only two in Lexington,..... but they were also selling tamales,.... so it didn't make much of a scene.

"Atzlan is alive!,... say main,... gew need a tamale?"

Mebsuta
April 10, 2006, 22:43
Heard LULAC organized it. Wonder who is funding them. Chavez? Islamic money? Trouble ahead.

SmokeEater2
April 10, 2006, 22:44
Originally posted by DABTL
Only 500,000 or so in Dallas.

My guess is 75% legals. Mostly Democrats, now! :rofl:

Watch the Republicans how!

Ohh, O.K. that explains it then, I always wondered where in the hell democrats came from. :tongue:

neonnoodle
April 10, 2006, 22:49
The poll numbers that I have been seeing over the past couple of day still show that 65-75% of Americans want to see strong immigration reform tke place.

The new House Bill (H.R. 4437) is not needed if they would enforce the current laws that exist on the books.
I don't see, regardless of how they vote in the Senate/House, how they are going to bring any quick and easy solution to the problem. To many years of "open boarders" and now we want to see an overnight solution?
I think those in the Senate know how to vote on this. They want to save there jobs but they also want to please their voters back home. We'll have more compromises then solutions on the way.

raexcct2
April 10, 2006, 22:51
So many illegals, so little pepper spray.

Two thousand today in Salt Lake City, 25,000 yesterday also in Salt Lake City.

Only in America can you have illegal aliens who broke the law coming here, are breaking the law working here, and they have the balls to say that they deserve the right of citizenship.

I say let them march, surround them and then deport them. Bet that would piss them off.

Probably would be funny if we deported the Mexicans to Guatemala, the Salvadoreans to Hondura, the Hondurans to El Salvador, etc. Deport them to whatever country they don't want to go to. Hell, send them all to Cuba as revenge for the Mariel Boatlift exodus.

wasnme
April 10, 2006, 22:56
In almost the words of custer,where the f@#$ did all these illegals come from!!! Anti-illegals were promptly broken up by police here(PHX) don't wanna rile the locals?and the news coverage was as usual,shyt.They intentionally didn't show any of the LaRaza crowd,who were out in force.I guess a spanish-speaking church got torched.(COMPLETLY UNRELATED according to the media wh&^%s)Alot more mexican flags then we were led to believe thats for sure.

neonnoodle
April 10, 2006, 22:57
I say let them march, surround them and then deport them. Bet that would piss them off.

All the school buses will be free this summer while the kids are on break.;)

Mebsuta
April 10, 2006, 22:57
They are not going to round up and deport anybody. What will be determined is how much regular people will have to give up to accomodate the Mexicans.

crash65
April 10, 2006, 23:08
Originally posted by wasnme
Anti-illegals were promptly broken up by police here(PHX) don't wanna rile the locals?and the news coverage was as usual,shyt. Alot more mexican flags then we were led to believe thats for sure.

Same here in Austin. One guy being assaulted, couldn't believe one news station actually broadcasted it.

Arrest - RICO - Deport

http://a.im.craigslist.org/9S/hD/R13qYbJlRb9voG5tAmkrAJbSykrY.jpg

fox_glen
April 10, 2006, 23:35
TV news is reporting over 100,000 marched here in Phoenix today. At the construction site I am visiting near Indian School and Central , there was little activity...about 1/3 the normal number of workers on site.

More helicopters in the sky today than normal, and there seems to be more police sirens tonight than usual. Could be my imagination, and could be not all marchers are peaceful. Think I'll stay in my room tonight.

A week or so ago the excitement was a Gay Parade that came up 3rd St and turned East down Indian School Rd.

Never a dull moment here in the Valley of the Sun.

doktor_ecchs
April 10, 2006, 23:51
Originally posted by Mebsuta
What will be determined is how much regular people will have to give up to accomodate the Mexicans.


:( :( A true statement...

as ever,
Dr. X :fal:

Carp Killer
April 10, 2006, 23:56
We will give them welfare, free medical, free schooling and take care of them when they get old. And you will not be able to stop it.

We voted for the people who are allowing this to happen.


And if you are against the illegal immigrants, you will be called a racist and a bigot.


It will get worse.:skull:

whirlibird
April 10, 2006, 23:58
Hey raexcct2
I like your idea but here's an interesting spin on it.....
SHIP 'em all to Greenland.
Let them figure it out.

My attitude towards the illegals changed about a year ago, one of the local farmers got killed in a rear end accident. Illegal hit him out in the middle of nowhere, left him to die and then skedaddled off to Mexico to hide his ass from the locals and justice.
His "green carded" father helped him to get away and should be doing a bit of time by now.
The farmer left behind a family and a community that depended on him, the illegal left behind nothing. He ran like a cockroach when the lights come on.

Sympathy, no chance. They want to improve their situation so much, make a change and fix your own damned country. Oh wait, you already screwed it up.
Too bad.

CZ-75a
April 11, 2006, 07:51
Originally posted by DABTL
Only 500,000 or so in Dallas.

My guess is 75% legals. Mostly Democrats, now! :rofl:

Watch the Republicans how!

The "democratic" party is the first choice of most criminals. ;)

vmtz
April 11, 2006, 08:04
Originally posted by ratas calientes
I have a job, so I went to work. http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif

So Taco Bell finally hired you?

Vince

vmtz
April 11, 2006, 08:08
Originally posted by whirlibird
Hey raexcct2
I like your idea but here's an interesting spin on it.....
SHIP 'em all to Greenland.
Let them figure it out.

My attitude towards the illegals changed about a year ago, one of the local farmers got killed in a rear end accident. Illegal hit him out in the middle of nowhere, left him to die and then skedaddled off to Mexico to hide his ass from the locals and justice.
His "green carded" father helped him to get away and should be doing a bit of time by now.
The farmer left behind a family and a community that depended on him, the illegal left behind nothing. He ran like a cockroach when the lights come on.

Sympathy, no chance. They want to improve their situation so much, make a change and fix your own damned country. Oh wait, you already screwed it up.
Too bad.

Very mature to judge a whole group of people by one. I guess you only see what you want to see.

Vince

Sayeret Tzanhanim
April 11, 2006, 08:25
Vince,
His antecdotal account speaks to a larger issue of "legality" all ove rthe country.
Illegals get speeding tickets, drive drunk, murder folks and the standard of justice is significantly lower than it is for citizens. Zero extradition and open borders almost assure freedom from prosecution and freedom to commit criminal acts in the future so long as they can flee back home to Meh-hico or hide out in the underground fruit picker community.

ratas calientes
April 11, 2006, 09:25
Originally posted by vmtz
So Taco Bell finally hired you?

Vince ŅSŪ, como no? Hablo mejor Espanol que los de mas. http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif

ALBPM
April 11, 2006, 09:26
If someone in this Country illegally, murders US Citizens, destroys property, etc.... shouldn't they be considered a Terrorist????

ratas calientes
April 11, 2006, 09:28
Originally posted by vmtz


So Taco Bell finally hired you?

Vince
Hey, go jam a Daewoo or somethin'. :D http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif

FN74
April 11, 2006, 09:33
It's not fair to those that came here the proper, legal way... Drop kick them back to old mexico, and ban them from reentry.

http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/8487197/detail.html

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/004211.html

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/004797.html

http://sayanythingblog.com/2005/05/15/illegal_alien_allegedly_kills_cop/

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000249.html

http://1492columbus.blogspot.com/2005/11/drunk-illegal-alien-kills-unc-student.html

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/002423.htm

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000531.html

http://www.americanpatrol.com/CRIME/RESENDEZ/resendez-history.html

http://www.parapundit.com/archives/002930.html

http://www.frostywooldridge.com/articles/art_2004jul22.html

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43841

iocane
April 11, 2006, 11:13
Whats needed is to arrest the people who are hiring illegals.

Now for those that beleive illegals are just trying to work hard in America, well fix the problems, then you would have a case. If a illegal breaks a law, make certain they do the time, so they don't continue making all illegals look bad. This whole sympathy for them is making it worse. Having sympathy for the hardworking ones is one thing, but lazy criminals are getting that sympathy to. They are using it to their advantage to get away with more and more. Those illegals that are criminals rob other illegals to. So both sides should be for them getting long prison sentences. Instead so many get the look the other way, let off easy treatment. When a illegal alien robs someone it isn't to feed there family or to get a better life, their just stealing. Most likely they steal for their drug habit, or to hire a prostitute, or to buy some silly item that makes them look like a big shot.

9thmoon
April 11, 2006, 11:25
Originally posted by Carp Killer
We will give them welfare, free medical, free schooling and take care of them when they get old. And you will not be able to stop it.

We voted for the people who are allowing this to happen.


And if you are against the illegal immigrants, you will be called a racist and a bigot.


It will get worse.:skull:

You are so, so right.

Boy were the media's initial estimates off... yesterday they were saying 4-5k were marching... today they're saying it was 15,000.

TXVEPR
April 11, 2006, 12:43
We have already lost the country. The battle was lost a long time ago. Our Senators have ensured that they will have to do NOTHING to solve this. Our existing immigration laws are not enforced all the way up to the Federal level. We do not need another bill. We will never get a Border Fence. English will never be the official language.

So, why not just make them citizens??? That way we can at least get them on the tax roles. If you are in this country for longer than 90 days, BAMM, here's your SS number, and here is your tax withholding!! Unleash the IRS on employers to enforce payroll taxes.

Who cares who they vote for, are you telling me there is a difference between Democrats and Republicans?????

Cava3r4
April 11, 2006, 13:57
what ever happened to enforcing the laws that we currently have?
I'd go out and rob a bank if I wasn't a white guy!
Bob

SJetwrench
April 11, 2006, 14:35
Down here in Tucson they give the number of approx. 12,000 who protested.
There was only 4 people arrested.
The protesters got on signal, virtually no mexican flags to be seen.
The worst thing about living in the decline of a civilization is knowing you are!!!:( :redface: :( :redface:

Raminator
April 11, 2006, 14:55
Is that what was creating such a traffic nightmare in Seattle yesterday? I didn't actually get caught in it, but I heard on the radio that it was a mess.

And my wife said, "Don't they know they're just pissing off the people who have jobs?".

How true. :mad:

jmonarch
April 11, 2006, 14:57
Originally posted by Mebsuta
Heard LULAC organized it. Wonder who is funding them. Chavez? Islamic money? Trouble ahead.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49571

The above article states that CFR, Ford Foundation, George Soros, Etc. are funding much, if not all, of the illegal immigration movement.

XHardrock
April 11, 2006, 15:01
Originally posted by Carp Killer
And if you are against the illegal immigrants, you will be called a racist and a bigot.
[/B]

Only by a few liberals with blinders, and for those few, I have been called worse, by better.

Numbers I got: 50K in Atlanta
1-2k in Greenville SC
Seems if there is time to demonstrate, there is time to fill out the proper papers.

whirlibird
April 11, 2006, 15:06
My dear Vince,

Here's a snippet of what I've seen in the law enforcement world. It's not just one incident.

Two illegals and one green carder selling some dope in our little town, it wasn't much only 7lbs of Meth and 110 lbs of pot, not like that's bad or anything.

State Patrol officer pulled over a car with four occupants, they all had the same name, same social sec # and worked at the same place.

Denver PD officer shot and killed, second officer shot and wounded......by an illegal.
http://cbs4denver.com/topstories/local_story_128130318.html
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/5623667/detail.html


Several of my friends are naturalized citizens, from Holland, Mexico, Brazil and elsewhere. They're even more up in arms about this than I am. They went through the steps to get here legally and despise anyone who skirts the law to sponge off what they are trying to accomplish.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't care what you are unless you are a criminal. Then you're a criminal and deserve to be brought to justice. Break the law and do the time.

Don't like it, don't do the crime. Press hard, five copies.

iocane
April 11, 2006, 15:08
TXVEPR"Who cares who they vote for, are you telling me there is a difference between Democrats and Republicans?????"
The republicans have become wht the democrats were while the democrats have become a mixture of democrats and comunist. The difference is the republicans will sell out the country. The democrats would sell out the country and make certains guns are illegal so know one can stop them.

redbear
April 11, 2006, 17:44
I do believe I am about to sick up all over myself.

vmtz
April 11, 2006, 20:24
Originally posted by whirlibird
My dear Vince,

Here's a snippet of what I've seen in the law enforcement world. It's not just one incident.

Two illegals and one green carder selling some dope in our little town, it wasn't much only 7lbs of Meth and 110 lbs of pot, not like that's bad or anything.

State Patrol officer pulled over a car with four occupants, they all had the same name, same social sec # and worked at the same place.

Denver PD officer shot and killed, second officer shot and wounded......by an illegal.
http://cbs4denver.com/topstories/local_story_128130318.html
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/5623667/detail.html


Several of my friends are naturalized citizens, from Holland, Mexico, Brazil and elsewhere. They're even more up in arms about this than I am. They went through the steps to get here legally and despise anyone who skirts the law to sponge off what they are trying to accomplish.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't care what you are unless you are a criminal. Then you're a criminal and deserve to be brought to justice. Break the law and do the time.

Don't like it, don't do the crime. Press hard, five copies.

I have cleaned up after quite a few white meth cooks. We could talk about all the white wife beaters I have also met. I guess all you white guys cook meth and beat their wifes?

Vince

gman
April 11, 2006, 21:02
You know Vince, you are kind of...a dickhead.

Sometimes you do actually make relevant, pithy, intelligent comments.

Most of the time you don't.

Please understand it is a vast understatement.

masman
April 11, 2006, 21:07
well i guess vermont wasnt imune from this.read in the paper this morning that there was a small demonstration in Burlington yesterday.

whirlibird
April 11, 2006, 21:12
VMTZ:

Now you're gettin personal.

Tread lightly.

And no I've never cooked up any meth or beaten my wife, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express. Of course that has nothing to do with me being white.

The Meth cooking agravates my allergies, I'm allergic to boneheads.

vmtz
April 11, 2006, 22:15
Originally posted by whirlibird
VMTZ:

Now you're gettin personal.

Tread lightly.

And no I've never cooked up any meth or beaten my wife, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express. Of course that has nothing to do with me being white.

The Meth cooking agravates my allergies, I'm allergic to boneheads.

You think that all Mexicans are one way because you know of a few who are. So, therefore, by your logic, all white people are meth cooks and beat their wifes. Painting with a wide brush.

I really am glad you cleared that up for me.

Vince

whirlibird
April 11, 2006, 23:23
Vince,

I was talking about illegals, not Mexicans specifically. If the illegal happens to be Mexican, Cuban, Egyptian, Chinese or New Mexican I could care less.

Because I used Mexicans as an example you assume that I dislike Mexicans, I don't. I happen to like Mexicans and prefer to work with them, however I cannot abide illegals. Most of the Mexican's I know are harder working than the whites they work for. More respectable also. Since most of the Mexican's I associate with are naturalized citizens my judgement might just be jaded.

This thread has gotten way too far off subject, so let's just agree to disagree. You assume that I'm a racist biggoted ass. And you'd be right on one part, the last.

I've said it before and I'll say it again for the last time in this thread. I have nothing but respect for those who follow the rules and laws and come here legally. The rest are job security for ICE.

There are times I agree with you, thos ain't gonna be one of 'em.
See ya in the funny papers.

ratas calientes
April 12, 2006, 10:50
Originally posted by whirlibird
Vince,

I was talking about illegals, not Mexicans specifically. If the illegal happens to be Mexican, Cuban, Egyptian, Chinese or New Mexican I could care less.
. . .
What is a New Mexican illegal? http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif

whirlibird
April 12, 2006, 11:33
One who slips north across the border to Colorado.

Levity....
Comedy....
Chuckle chuckle.

ratas calientes
April 12, 2006, 13:04
Originally posted by whirlibird
One who slips north across the border to Colorado.

Levity....
Comedy....
Chuckle chuckle.
Roger. I thought it was Vince. :biggrin:

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